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ORIGINAL: Ike99

So spare me the morality lecture mate.

I'm not your mate.

ORIGINAL: Terminus

ORIGINAL: bobogoboom

ORIGINAL: Ike99



70,000
(Cough cough)
Iraqis dead
(Cough cough)
to
(Cough cough)
¨free¨ them
(Cough cough)
aka steal oil
(Cough cough)

So spare me the morality lecture mate.

??????? how does that have anything to do with the falklands.

Not much, but did you really expect it to?[8|]

Plus i don't remember the military junta exactly having a glowing human rights record

ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

ORIGINAL: GreyFox

..and there was silly ol' me thinking that there were some simple UN rules about declaring war..

..don't see blue helmets tho ....

One can argue that the US Senate's authorisation to use military force on Iraq was in effect a declaration of war. Along with the UN resolution 1441, which gave Iraq it's last chance to cooperate, it wrapped things up legally, if somewhat dubiously.

..gosh, the US Senate authorisation out-weighs the UN rules for the Declaration of War...[&:]

..oh friggin' goody-goody..

..what next ? added razor wire around Stonehenge ?...

UN is retarded. international law is a joke anyways.

Sprior-Nobody here has ever said the FAA din't try and sink the Invincible.

Yes they did. Here is Dixies comment....

Dixie-I could claim to be Lord Lucan, it doesn't make it so...Here's some authentic Argie footage of the attack.

BTW Dixie the last comment on that page is in english and says....

¨The propaganda of English is still worse than that of the Argentinian Generals of the time. Everyone knows now that the Invincible had been seriously struck.¨[:D][:D]


And here is a modern video of some of the ¨chimpanzees¨ training you boys are up against with the largest airforce south of Texas in this ongoing conflict.

Hmmm...maybe it was some of these ¨chimpanzees¨ who overflew the Malvinas (british admitted) last year that you Brits couldn´t catch in your Tornados. [;)]

Grupo 4 De Caza
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jBKoP1rPkM

Invading sovereign territory of a NATO member seems like a good idea. Go ahead and try it Argentina v NATO. I'm sorry but I think I am going to take NATO. maybee yall could try and get columbia to help you.

Some people are incapable of learning anything from history.

And bobogoboom - we had all better watch out, they have SU30s!

ORIGINAL: Ike99
BTW Dixie the last comment on that page is in english and says....

¨The propaganda of English is still worse than that of the Argentinian Generals of the time. Everyone knows now that the Invincible had been seriously struck.¨[:D][:D]

The fact that it is in English means precisely nothing, many people know English, after all YOU are typing in English....

There are people outside of the UK who feel that the Falklands aren't British. I know there are people in the UK who feel like that, but I get the impression that the author of that comment does not use English as a first language.

ORIGINAL: Ike99

Hmmm...maybe it was some of these ¨chimpanzees¨ who overflew the [s]Malvinas[/s] Falklands (british admitted) last year that you Brits couldn´t catch in your Tornados. [;)]

ORIGINAL: 7th Somersets

Some people are incapable of learning anything from history.

And bobogoboom - we had all better watch out, they have SU30s!

[X(]I'm shaking

And the point of this was? And who or what are chipmanzees? (apart from the obvious monkey-related answer)

ORIGINAL: bobogoboom

Invading sovereign territory of a NATO member seems like a good idea. Go ahead and try it Argentina v NATO. I'm sorry but I think I am going to take NATO. maybee yall could try and get columbia to help you.

..does the game have a realistic "white chrystals" ev level ?..

ORIGINAL: GreyFox

..nooo, of course not..

..withdrawing the few remaining military units was an accident..

..at a time when the Argentinians were doing alota mouthing off..even more so..

..did i mention the hot lead ?..

Yer not taking into account Hanlon's Razor.

..oh no, stupidty was not her problem..

..being born in the Grantham lower-middle class might have been..

..i lived with one for some years...baaaddd idea, tho good learning exercise, at least she was a socialist..same problems tho...

..being born in the Grantham lower-middle class might have been..

A bit of class sobbery always helps.

ORIGINAL: sprior

..being born in the Grantham lower-middle class might have been..

A bit of class sobbery always helps.

..especially if daddy was President..

..don'tcha jus' luvvv non-"heriditory" monarchies..

..sigghhhh..

ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

..i know, how dare he offer an opposing point of view..

He can say whatever he likes about his fascist and jingoistic causes - and then I will call bullshit on them.

Not getting into the history/politics discourse--but as far as tactics....

Back in the early 90's whn I was stationed at Bragg---we had a gent come to our brigade that had joined the Army & stated he was former brit citizen/para. Stated he had been and infantryman/bagpiper for his regt and was at the Falklands. Question for any of the Britts out there----Do the para/regt's still do this? As far as after getting in the area, forming up, and starting the slog, --are their still pipers in certain situations other then ceremonial?? (meaning-jumping in, assembl'g, then starting the march to the pipes)


As a side note---got to have some contact with some British paras back then who had come to Bragg for exchange training----Came across as very serious, professional & a unit I wouldn't want to mess with. Now the Aussie paras---some wild partiers-at least the few I met.

ORIGINAL: a white rabbit
..errr, noooo, the Falklands war began when a Facist (sooooRRyyyy) Conservative mad -person*, elected only because of a flawed electoral system, decided to rig a war with an easily defeatable opponent for who-the-fk-knows what reason..

Of course, the great conspiracy theory. Goodbye.

It's amazing how high your appetite for trolling is, even attempting to bring Iraq into the picture. Bored at home?

Came across as very serious, professional & a unit I wouldn't want to mess with.

 
Have you read "Green Eyed Boys" (Re 3 Para at Mt Longdon)
 
I doubt that there would be very many infantry formations in the world capable of winning that battle - with little artillery/air support and no tanks - it was pure guts and fighting ability.

sprior-I'm not your mate...

Oh really...why not? And this whole time I was thinking I was going to get a fair and impartial opinion concerning a matter of British foreign policy from a Yank.[8|]

7th Somersets-Some people are incapable of learning anything from history...

Certainly. Like some right radicals on this thread. When a British colonial possesion become unprofitable for them they leave. Look at this history. Then put 1 and 1 together and tell me what you think the final chapter is going to read on the Malvinas.

bobogoboom-UN is retarded. international law is a joke anyways.

Not even worth an intelligent comment from me.

bobogoboom-Invading sovereign territory...

Well you right about this. Invading soverign territory is bad, as is invading another countrys airspace. Bad...very bad...an unjust thing. That's why the Brits need to take their Tornados back to to the UK where they belong and out of our airspace.

B/snafu-Not getting into the history/politics discourse--but as far as tactics....

Now this is something good. I want to try to clear up a situation between the Brits about the fighting in 82´

When the British were unloading their troops and we bombed them the 1st day many of the bombs didn´t explode. This was reported on the BBC. The next day Argentina bombed again and all the bombs exploded I think. The British were angry because they believed/believe Argentina heard the original BBC broadcast and changed the bomb fuses.

This is not true and the people from that Squadron that did the bombing will tell you it's not true.

Many of these people are still alive and some of
them active on Argentine forums. They give out their
e-mails to some and speak. Offer their insight and so on. So just to clear that up for my British friends about bombs and the BBC. The BBC broadcast had no bearing on bombs exploding when you were unloading.

One of those people from that group kept a diary as the war went on and I have translated his entry on the Belgrano sinking. It is here...

02-MAY-82: A BLACK DAY FOR OUR COUNTRY, THE PIRATES HIT US HARD

No one is happy and no one knows what the effect will
be with the first successful attack going to the English fleet. We have heard the news that an English submarine, the Conqueror, torpedoed with MK8
torpedoes the cruiser Belgrano and caused terrible
damage. In half an hour she sunk.

This attack happened outside the 200 nautical mile
exclusion zone-we protested to the OAS (Organization of American States) that the British were not respecting this zone. The number of lives lost was 323 Argentine sailors.

This type of news makes us think about the seriousness of the war, of the pirates and how we feel about the English. Definetely gone are our thoughts and wishes for a diplomatic solution.

That's why the Brits need to take their Tornados back to to the UK

 
Ike99 - I think that you may get your wish here... people should be careful what they wish for...