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I might...I do plan to route as much as I can.  For me the snow turns are the time for the infantry to shine.  I sort of dislike HQ buildup in the snow turns, as I might get some encirclements (with me it is rarely a good pocket in one turn...) I want to try and get the tanks back to my fallback cites by the third turn - hard to do if they are blown.
 
Part of this is not any sense of temerity on my part, but that my long range plans are to try the "rubber band" against a person, and then in March snap out with fresh panzers.

Yes, attacking and redeploying at the same time is tricky, but you do have the advantage of moving first in the blizzard turn, so you can get the panzers out of the front line even if you don't get them into winter quarters straight away.

Yeah, as with the rest of this game I will take what I see on that first snow turn.  Right now I have the problem around Moscow that the panzers are in the front line due to the infantry taking Moscow...
 
Oh well, there is nowhere to go but down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9XJeL2MNpw

the final joke is not spoken yet.

ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus

What an excellent job you're doing, PeeDeeAitch [&o] Moscow is in the bag too!

And you started the whole thing as a joke [:D] Perhaps this is the joke itself...

Well, I like to joke around because this is a game. I poke fun at myself but I do try to play well. My belief is that the Germans are destined to lose the war, but if I can stave that off for some time then I have had fun and played well. I really don't have long term plans other than "head that way" because the game is so wide open that to stick to any rigid plan leads one to frustration.

Plus, I think my little pixel soldiers enjoy me poking fun at myself as they find themselves deep, deep, deep inside the Soviet Union...

ORIGINAL: Keunert

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9XJeL2MNpw

the final joke is not spoken yet.

Thank God "Joke Warfare" was outlawed by the Improv Treaty of 1973.

Thank God "Joke Warfare" was outlawed by the Improv Treaty of 1973.

you should be careful i think you are borderline in breach of the treaty

ORIGINAL: krupp_88mm

Thank God "Joke Warfare" was outlawed by the Improv Treaty of 1973.

you should be careful i think you are borderline in breach of the treaty

Hmm, you are right. I shall withhold deploying my Pun Troopers.

Hmm, you are right. I shall withhold deploying my Pun Troopers.

just please don't employ WMDs (wisecracks of mass derision)

So a German a Romanian and an Italian walk into a bar, the German and Romanian turn to the Italian and say why did Russia Sell Alaska?

I dunno why you all aska me?

(grumble) mud (grumble)

ORIGINAL: BigAnorak

Yes, attacking and redeploying at the same time is tricky, but you do have the advantage of moving first in the blizzard turn, so you can get the panzers out of the front line even if you don't get them into winter quarters straight away.

If you do that, though, won't they be exposed to a turn of attrition outside? I thought you had to move them in the last Snow Turn to avoid that. Tank losses are heavy in Blizzard, even if you're just sitting outside.

I don't mind the tank losses so much. Right now I am sitting with mostly old tanks (and supposedly one panzer div had 4 T-26's in it...), or low on TOE. However, I do want them to be strong in the cities near the front for late Blizzard smash and scoot attacks from their warm hidey holes. Hard to have them ready in time if they start off in bad shape.

If you do that, though, won't they be exposed to a turn of attrition outside? I thought you had to move them in the last Snow Turn to avoid that. Tank losses are heavy in Blizzard, even if you're just sitting outside.

It will depend on the circumstances - I had a shot at Moscow and Rostov on T24 and went for it. Like PDH I am not too worried about attrition on old models, the panzer div TOE changes to the new models and 3 months of mud is enough time to fill them out with the new models.

Snow! While it is not clear, it is a final chance to hurt my opponent. Lots of attacks, lots and lots of routes. Armor races forward to re-route. I count at least 65 routed units, perhaps a fifth of the Soviet total strength. Snow is a chance to take advantage of the time and hurt the enemy. Encirclements are hard to pull off safely, but the Soviets are weakened by the long campaign, and it is the last chance for the German infantry to shine before they turn into popsicles. I should make 4 million casualties by the end of snow.

I agree. Whack 'em hard. Use those infantry while they actually do damage. Especially beat on cav units.

Boring stuff, but an idea where I sit

Losses, turn 22:

Destroyed:

OOB - Turn 22:

I think I'm going to have to write a soviet survival guide - my guess is he has a ton of manpower in his pool, and too much artillery in his SUs.

Going to be interesting to see what sort of winter offensive he can mount against you after a beating like that.