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RE: Land of The Giants
Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 2:16 pm
by koniu
ORIGINAL: Historiker
According to international law, war parties are allowed to enter neutral ports. This was done, for example, when the German East Asia Squadron visited Valparaíso in 1914.
I am not lawyer but i think they can use neutral port for no longer than 24h, they can resupply but not war materials like ammo etc. They can do repairs but only on minimal level allowing them to return to sea.
Also neutral port side can have more rules.
On September `39 Polish SS "ORP Orzeł" (Eagle) enter port of Tallinn (Estonia was neutral those days) to refuel and resupply. They where forced to give all weapons (torpedoes, shell etc and most of fuel) and sub was intern in harbor.
Polish crew took two Estonian soldiers as hostages (later send them ashore to Sweden with money and food) and escape to England.
Taking Orzeł intern and later escape was use by Soviets and Germans to question Estonian neutrality
RE: Land of The Giants
Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 2:24 pm
by Empire101
ORIGINAL: koniu
ORIGINAL: Historiker
According to international law, war parties are allowed to enter neutral ports. This was done, for example, when the German East Asia Squadron visited Valparaíso in 1914.
I am not lawyer but i think they can use neutral port for no longer than 24h, they can resupply but not war materials like ammo etc. They can do repairs but only on minimal level allowing them to return to sea.
Also neutral port side can have more rules.
On September `39 Polish SS "ORP Orzeł" (Eagle) enter port of Tallinn (Estonia was neutral those days) to refuel and resupply. They where forced to give all weapons (torpedoes, shell etc and most of fuel) and sub was intern in harbor.
Polish crew took two Estonian soldiers as hostages (later send them ashore to Sweden with money and food) and escape to England.
Taking Orzeł intern and later escape was use by Soviets and Germans to question Estonian neutrality
Thats how I understood it. Another example is the Graf Spee at Montevideo. She could effect repairs only in that neutral port.
RE: Land of The Giants
Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 2:27 pm
by koniu
ORIGINAL: Empire101
ORIGINAL: koniu
ORIGINAL: Historiker
According to international law, war parties are allowed to enter neutral ports. This was done, for example, when the German East Asia Squadron visited Valparaíso in 1914.
I am not lawyer but i think they can use neutral port for no longer than 24h, they can resupply but not war materials like ammo etc. They can do repairs but only on minimal level allowing them to return to sea.
Also neutral port side can have more rules.
On September `39 Polish SS "ORP Orzeł" (Eagle) enter port of Tallinn (Estonia was neutral those days) to refuel and resupply. They where forced to give all weapons (torpedoes, shell etc and most of fuel) and sub was intern in harbor.
Polish crew took two Estonian soldiers as hostages (later send them ashore to Sweden with money and food) and escape to England.
Taking Orzeł intern and later escape was use by Soviets and Germans to question Estonian neutrality
Thats how I understood it. Another example is the Graf Spee at Montevideo. She could effect repairs only in that neutral port.
Also
If in neutral port are ships of both fighting sides , first ship leaving must have 24h head start. And all ships captured by fighting sides on waters of that neutral side must be surrendered to that neutral side
RE: Land of The Giants
Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 2:39 pm
by Empire101
ORIGINAL: koniu
ORIGINAL: Empire101
ORIGINAL: koniu
I am not lawyer but i think they can use neutral port for no longer than 24h, they can resupply but not war materials like ammo etc. They can do repairs but only on minimal level allowing them to return to sea.
Also neutral port side can have more rules.
On September `39 Polish SS "ORP Orzeł" (Eagle) enter port of Tallinn (Estonia was neutral those days) to refuel and resupply. They where forced to give all weapons (torpedoes, shell etc and most of fuel) and sub was intern in harbor.
Polish crew took two Estonian soldiers as hostages (later send them ashore to Sweden with money and food) and escape to England.
Taking Orzeł intern and later escape was use by Soviets and Germans to question Estonian neutrality
Thats how I understood it. Another example is the Graf Spee at Montevideo. She could effect repairs only in that neutral port.
Also
If in neutral port are ships of both fighting sides , first ship leaving must have 24h head start. And all ships captured by fighting sides on waters of that neutral side must be surrendered to that neutral side
I think I am going to employ Koniu as my legal representative at the League of Nations!![:)]
So Historiker-san, the Japanese Government demands that all hostile warships in Hong Kong are to be scuttled!!!![:D]
RE: Land of The Giants
Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 2:40 pm
by Historiker
Well, just think about Lend&Lease the other way round, this time [:'(]
RE: Land of The Giants
Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 2:45 pm
by Empire101
ORIGINAL: Historiker
Well, just think about Lend&Lease the other way round, this time [:'(]
Boo!!
Latest News
....Reuters....
Historiker plays Lend-Lease card.
Japanese attempts to neutralise American fleet in Hong Kong foiled.
Japan to employ alternative strategy...............
[X(][X(][X(][X(][X(][X(][X(][X(]
RE: Land of The Giants
Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 2:46 pm
by Historiker
BTW:
Waht Empire "forgot" to mention is, that the US Battleflied wasn't just on a cruise. It bombarded the harbor, scoring some nice hits...
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Naval bombardment of Pescadores, at 47,43
Japanese Ships
BC Kirishima, Shell hits 3
AP Sumiyoshi Maru, Shell hits 1
BB Mishima, Shell hits 1
BC Kongo, Shell hits 1
AP Haruna Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
BC Hiei, Shell hits 2, on fire
BB Okinoshima, Shell hits 3, on fire
AP Taganoura Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
AP Kanko Maru, Shell hits 1
BC Haruna, Shell hits 2, on fire
BB Hizen, Shell hits 1
Allied Ships
BB New York
BB Mississippi
BB New Mexico
BB California
BB Pennsylvania
BB West Virginia
BB Maryland
Japanese ground losses:
1169 casualties reported
Guns lost 9
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 11
Port hits 5
Port supply hits 2
[:'(][:'(][:'(]
RE: Land of The Giants
Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 2:54 pm
by Empire101
ORIGINAL: Historiker
BTW:
Waht Empire "forgot" to mention is, that the US Battleflied wasn't just on a cruise. It bombarded the harbor, scoring some nice hits...
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Naval bombardment of Pescadores, at 47,43
Japanese Ships
BC Kirishima, Shell hits 3
AP Sumiyoshi Maru, Shell hits 1
BB Mishima, Shell hits 1
BC Kongo, Shell hits 1
AP Haruna Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
BC Hiei, Shell hits 2, on fire
BB Okinoshima, Shell hits 3, on fire
AP Taganoura Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
AP Kanko Maru, Shell hits 1
BC Haruna, Shell hits 2, on fire
BB Hizen, Shell hits 1
Allied Ships
BB New York
BB Mississippi
BB New Mexico
BB California
BB Pennsylvania
BB West Virginia
BB Maryland
Japanese ground losses:
1169 casualties reported
Guns lost 9
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 11
Port hits 5
Port supply hits 2
[:'(][:'(][:'(]
This is of course American propaganda, and should be ignored by any readers, as the figures are pure fiction.[:(]
( goes into the back room and throws darts at a picture of Historiker and L/Cmdr 'Mad' Jack McMad on the wall, then starts to furiously play the bagpipes.[:(][X(] ).
RE: Land of The Giants
Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 2:56 pm
by Historiker
Buddy, I gotta tell you this: You are sooo funny! [:D][:D][:D]
RE: Land of The Giants
Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 6:43 pm
by Empire101
And so dear reader, Japan reaches a cross-roads in the Far Eastern War.
With The Great Manchurian Adventure over and the Philippines 'liberated', a decision had to made.
Was Japan going to sit back and fortify her hard won aquisitions, or was she going to push on, to further cement her victory, or to court unparalleled disaster.......only time would tell.
RE: Land of The Giants
Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 8:44 pm
by Empire101
Turn 70
BB New York gets two torpedoes.
Blood is in the water and sharks begin to circle....
RE: Land of The Giants
Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 8:45 pm
by Empire101
Hopefully I'll get another shot at her before too long and finish her!!
