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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:38 pm
by notenome
End of turn screenshot. One thing we did do today was drastically tone down refits. Hopefully this will lead to troops going to the frontline units defending Rostov and Moscow. Also recieved a brand new shock army. Two options, add it to the slog in Moscow or send it down to Rostov.

RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:18 am
by notenome
EDIT: Nevermind that.
RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:34 am
by Flaviusx
Send the Shock Army to Bryansk Front, imo, and load it up with cav. The admin bonus doesn't do you any good in Rostov or Moscow, it's primary benefit is to enhance your mobile units, so look ahead towards the blizzard counteroffensive.
In the old days when it gave a morale bonus, you could get more mileage out rifle divisions attached to them, now, not so much.
For whatever it is worth, I don't think the new bonus makes a whole lot of sense; it's no longer optimal to use these armies in their historical fashion, to crack lines. They wind up being sort of ghetto tank/cav armies.
RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:31 am
by notenome
oh they changed the morale bonus? And replaced it with what?
RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:39 am
by Flaviusx
A +1 admin bonus. Tank armies got changed as well, to +1 admin bonus and +1 armor bonus.
Also command limits got changed, plan ahead for that and try to not to get above 18 CP/army. 15 CP for tank armies. Don't disband the airborne HQs, you'll need the extra command capacity now.
RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:50 am
by notenome
argh, just argh. 9 divisions per army it is then.
RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:45 am
by gingerbread
There are 4 hexes within 2 hexes of Rostov that ought to qualify for the special rules for city, light & urban reserve commitment and that are free of Axis ZOC, but units do have to make the reserve/Initiative roll. For those that makes the roll, MP's should not matter though they need at least 1 MP.
That's the theory (manual) but the code might say something else. [;)]
RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:38 am
by notenome
Every unit in those hexes is on reserve or refit mode.
RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:41 am
by Tarhunnas
ORIGINAL: Flaviusx
Don't disband the airborne HQs, you'll need the extra command capacity now.
Good point! Thanks for pointing it out!
RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:55 am
by notenome
Posted this on the bug report thread, pointing it out here: Flav, it can't be a single role, this turn disproves it. If it was a single role, you couldn't have mud in the north and center and snow in the south bc the south has a smaller modifier than the north and center do. So it really is independent roles, which means there really might be a bug.
RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:26 pm
by randallw
For a question asked on the previous page of this thread, 'no', artillery regiments cannot be combined into divisions. Artillery cannot be brought together to form a larger unit.
RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:40 pm
by notenome
So the on map arty units have to be made from scratch?
RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:52 pm
by Flaviusx
Yes.
RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:09 pm
by Farfarer61
You may also find it worthwhile to disband SU's that contain the Artillery types needed to fill out your Arty Divs. I find this helps greatly.
RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:19 pm
by notenome
Indeed. I now have a glut of APs thanks to two fronts and my determination to keep C & C correct no matter what. Still would have been nice to have combined my guards arty regimets into guards arty divisions.
RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:03 pm
by notenome
November 13th, 1941.
Moscow holds (apparently due to a partisan attack on Axis rail, but I'll wager multiple holds had something to do with it). Rostov holds as well, due to mud. After 4 weeks, it finally rains in the south. Soviet Meteorologist call it the El Niñsky phenomenon. I have some major counterattacks planned but need to get the logistics set up properly.

RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:46 pm
by notenome
Rokossovky's 13th Army in conjunction with Sokolevsky's 4th Army throws another stack of Panzerschwein back north of Moscow. This area has changed hands at least 5 times in the past two months. I'm all too glad to attrition his armor down here.

RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:35 pm
by Schmart
ORIGINAL: notenome
...throws another stack of Panzerschwein back north of Moscow.
Haven't heard that term before, but it's great! [;)] I may borrow it from time to time...
RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:29 pm
by hfarrish
In this case, more like Wagonschwein...or whatever the appropriate term for motorized other than tank is!
RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:50 pm
by notenome
Well, it has begun. Two Fronts have begun offensives, another will be mobilized next week, two more two weeks from now and all fronts will engage in offensive action three weeks from now.
