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RE: A new ACW..
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:17 pm
by parusski
ORIGINAL: Qwixt
ORIGINAL: parusski
That was not sweeping, it was a baseball bat I used to hit the truth. But I will not do that again.[8D]
Actually, it's just more propagating the stupidity of today's binary world. Where simpletons cannot fathom shades of grey. You're either liberal or conservative, and no ground in between. Makes things real simple for the "geniuses".
Amen. And I never understood the odd fear some have of political discussions. Without them, nothing is ever resolved. According to a Gallup poll from a few months ago, 40% of Americans identify themselves as Conservatives, 21% Liberals with the rest as undecided or independents.
How strange that the debate over gun control can take place here but one dare not mention political labels, which exist. WEIRD.
RE: A new ACW..
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:18 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Natali
I remember reading about the Swiss having a lot of people (militia?) with military assault rifles in the closet and they were expected to be good to go as soon as they were notified. Don't recall too many Swiss elementary schools getting shot up by Swiss.
Also remember this picture of an Israeli girl, in a bar on the beach, in a bikini, with a beautiful posterior, and a Uzi hanging in front of it. Don't recall too many Israeli elementary schools getting shot up by Israelis.
Probably the most restrictive gun ownership countries in the world are in the Baltic, but didn't some whacko go to some island and kill a bunch of kids in Sweden?
Protection of gun ownership is fundamental. It's not really "gun" ownership, it's the ownership of weapons with the ability to confront and overcome a tyranical "perp", whether the perp is an Islamist, a gang banger, a deranged lunitic, or an over-reaching government. It is only the government that is afraid of citizens having weapons. Well that's not exactly true, just ask the Crips what happened when they tried to take control of Laughlin.
Sami
warspite1
It was Norway
RE: A new ACW..
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:46 pm
by parusski
This just in from
The Hill
"The White House has responded to a handful of petitions calling for various states to be given the right to secede from the United States, calling for unity and participatory government instead."
"The states included in the response are Florida, Louisiana, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, North Carolina, South Carolina and Texas. The Texas petition received over 125,000 signatures, more than any other."
I fear many people truly do not understand how serious most Americans take the Bill of Rights and especially the second amendment.
RE: A new ACW..
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:10 pm
by Qwixt
That's has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment or bill of rights, and is about people not being able to handle the results of the Presidential election. Just look at the states. The petitions were started immediately after the election.
RE: A new ACW..
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:14 pm
by Natali
ORIGINAL: warspite1
It was Norway
I am so sorry. Oftentimes Americans just don't know one country from another. For that, I am truly sorry.
[ed] but does Norway v Sweden in some way inform in the premis?
Sami.
RE: A new ACW..
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:06 pm
by Chijohnaok2
http://www.khou.com/news/local/Robbery- ... 72461.html
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 9:32 PM
Updated yesterday at 9:46 PM
HOUSTON -- A couple of strangers came to the rescue when a man was robbed at gunpoint. Now, the victim wants to say thank you to the Good Samaritans.
Police believe the criminal who was canvassing a neighborhood in the 2500 block of Wichita near Hermann Park had no idea what he was in for when he picked his target.
The victim in this case had just walked back to his car from a bar around the corner.
Kevin Dorsey says he hadn’t even closed his car door Thursday night when a man wearing all black and a ski mask put a gun to his chest. The man took Dorsey’s wallet, cell phone and car keys.
After he was robbed, Dorsey began running down the street and says two men in a Mercedes asked him what had happened.
Dorsey told them and they not only caught up with the suspect, but they started shooting at him.
The suspect fired back. In the end, the two witnesses turned vigilantes won and took down the bad guy.
“I don’t believe in guns,” said Dorsey. “I don’t own a gun. I’m totally at the mercy of my saviors. They obviously sent two angels to help me. These people protected me when I couldn’t protect myself.”
After the robber had been shot, police say he jumped over a fence and was attacked by a German Shepherd. That attack prevented him from getting away.
The suspect, identified as Christopher Hutchins, is being treated at Ben Taub Hospital. He’s expected to recover.
Good Samaratins apprehend the robber (with assist from German sherpherd), not the police.
[On a side note---I thought Hutchins was dead?]
RE: A new ACW..
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:46 pm
by parusski
ORIGINAL: Natali
ORIGINAL: warspite1
It was Norway
I am so sorry. Oftentimes Americans just don't know one country from another. For that, I am truly sorry.
[ed] but does Norway v Sweden in some way inform in the premis?
Sami.
I am on the floor laughing. Warspite1 is NOT American. He is a goofy Brit. And God bless him and his home town of Uttoxeter.
RE: A new ACW..
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:48 pm
by parusski
ORIGINAL: Qwixt
That's has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment or bill of rights, and is about people not being able to handle the results of the Presidential election. Just look at the states. The petitions were started immediately after the election.
Read the article, and give some thought to the issue. It is not about "handling the election" it is about the smothering of individual liberties.
RE: A new ACW..
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:00 pm
by Qwixt
A handful of "We the People" petitions calling for the government to allow various states to secede cropped up following President Obama's reelection.
What is there to give more thought to? These petitions did not exist until the day after the election. These petitions would not exist if their guy won. It's just more dumbing down of the U.S., "I didn't get my choice so I am going to cry and pout about it".
RE: A new ACW..
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:49 pm
by Aurelian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._White
The court, (SCOTUS), further held that the Constitution did not permit states to unilaterally secede from the United States, and that the ordinances of secession, and all the acts of the legislatures within seceding states intended to give effect to such ordinances, were "absolutely null."
RE: A new ACW..
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:59 am
by wodin
ORIGINAL: parusski
ORIGINAL: Natali
ORIGINAL: warspite1
It was Norway
I am so sorry. Oftentimes Americans just don't know one country from another. For that, I am truly sorry.
[ed] but does Norway v Sweden in some way inform in the premis?
Sami.
I am on the floor laughing. Warspite1 is NOT American. He is a goofy Brit. And God bless him and his home town of Uttoxeter.
Your getting confused...Natali was talking about himself\herself not Warspite.
RE: A new ACW..
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:57 am
by MrRoadrunner
ORIGINAL: Qwixt
A handful of "We the People" petitions calling for the government to allow various states to secede cropped up following President Obama's reelection.
What is there to give more thought to? These petitions did not exist until the day after the election. These petitions would not exist if their guy won. It's just more dumbing down of the U.S., "I didn't get my choice so I am going to cry and pout about it".
I am quite sure that if the other party had come to power and tried to continue to make the States and the people "smaller" while the government grew to it's current (and future further) enormity, those petitions would have come up.
It's not who's in power. You need to get that straight. It's what that person does to overreach their power that counts.
Taking away from States Rights, taking from the people, and growing a massive country busting debt is something that must be pushed back against.
I don't care what party they are. And, if it is "crying" or "pouting" that you want to use to belittle an opposing argument, I will pout and cry all I want to get America back on track. Even if it is one pout or one cry at a time. Heck, I have over a hundred years of progressive pollution to overcome. And, I have to do it one soul at a time. Lord knows what our last few generations of school kids have been taught.
And, if you want to cry for the right reasons, cry for the thousand plus children who were killed the same day the school children in Conn. were killed. There is more than one evil nut job out there.
RR
RE: A new ACW..
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:59 pm
by parusski
ORIGINAL: wodin
ORIGINAL: parusski
ORIGINAL: Natali
I am so sorry. Oftentimes Americans just don't know one country from another. For that, I am truly sorry.
[ed] but does Norway v Sweden in some way inform in the premis?
Sami.
I am on the floor laughing. Warspite1 is NOT American. He is a goofy Brit. And God bless him and his home town of Uttoxeter.
Your getting confused...Natali was talking about himself\herself not Warspite.
Confused??? Me? Never. Well, maybe this one time.
RE: A new ACW..
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:03 pm
by parusski
ORIGINAL: MrRoadrunner
ORIGINAL: Qwixt
A handful of "We the People" petitions calling for the government to allow various states to secede cropped up following President Obama's reelection.
What is there to give more thought to? These petitions did not exist until the day after the election. These petitions would not exist if their guy won. It's just more dumbing down of the U.S., "I didn't get my choice so I am going to cry and pout about it".
I am quite sure that if the other party had come to power and tried to continue to make the States and the people "smaller" while the government grew to it's current (and future further) enormity, those petitions would have come up.
It's not who's in power. You need to get that straight. It's what that person does to overreach their power that counts.
Taking away from States Rights, taking from the people, and growing a massive country busting debt is something that must be pushed back against.
I don't care what party they are. And, if it is "crying" or "pouting" that you want to use to belittle an opposing argument, I will pout and cry all I want to get America back on track. Even if it is one pout or one cry at a time. Heck, I have over a hundred years of progressive pollution to overcome. And, I have to do it one soul at a time. Lord knows what our last few generations of school kids have been taught.
And, if you want to cry for the right reasons, cry for the thousand plus children who were killed the same day the school children in Conn. were killed. There is more than one evil nut job out there.
RR
Your response is spot on. I voted for George W. Bush(twice). But by his second term I was furious with him because of the incredible expansion of the government-with new agencies and programs that we could not pay for. The old and tired argument that people like me are unhappy because Mr. O is president shows unwillingness to admit that many Americans despise gigantic government, with it's ever spreading control in our lives.
RE: A new ACW..
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:08 pm
by wodin
George W Bush was comedy gold..
RE: A new ACW..
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:24 pm
by Zap
Obama would make me laugh with his constant lying to blurr the truth if his efforts were not so damaging to the US.
RE: A new ACW..
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:45 pm
by Qwixt
ORIGINAL: MrRoadrunner
I am quite sure that if the other party had come to power and tried to continue to make the States and the people "smaller" while the government grew to it's current (and future further) enormity, those petitions would have come up.
It's not who's in power. You need to get that straight. It's what that person does to overreach their power that counts.
Taking away from States Rights, taking from the people, and growing a massive country busting debt is something that must be pushed back against.
I don't care what party they are. And, if it is "crying" or "pouting" that you want to use to belittle an opposing argument, I will pout and cry all I want to get America back on track. Even if it is one pout or one cry at a time. Heck, I have over a hundred years of progressive pollution to overcome. And, I have to do it one soul at a time. Lord knows what our last few generations of school kids have been taught.
And, if you want to cry for the right reasons, cry for the thousand plus children who were killed the same day the school children in Conn. were killed. There is more than one evil nut job out there.
RR
I am a fiscal conservative, and neither of the parties cover that. Republicans are social conservative, and fiscally conservative in name only, and only when the Dems are in power. They hand out corporate welfare (e.g. defense) while the Dems prefer social program handouts. The only guy that comes close is Ron Paul, and he seems a bit crazy at times. I remember during one debate in 2008 that he was the only one that could answer the question correctly about whether as the President if he would declare war over some scenario.
As far as these petitions go, I am just not buying it. If what you say is true, then these petitions should have existed long before the election. As you say, "It's not who's in power", and that is exactly right, the other guy wasn't going to solve any of the problems you mention. These petitions should have started with the passing of the patriot act, then really gone crazy with the litany of abuses of power that followed and the ballooning of the government. Nothing you can say will sway my opinion on the phoniness and childishness of these petitions due to the timing. Because if the petitions were truly about states rights issues, these petitions would have existed long before the day after the election.
RE: A new ACW..
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:52 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: parusski
ORIGINAL: wodin
ORIGINAL: parusski
I am on the floor laughing. Warspite1 is NOT American. He is a goofy Brit. And God bless him and his home town of Uttoxeter.
Your getting confused...Natali was talking about himself\herself not Warspite.
Confused??? Me? Never. Well, maybe this one time.
warspite1
Learn to read Dumbass [;)]
RE: A new ACW..
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:59 pm
by junk2drive
ORIGINAL: parusski
This just in from
The Hill
"The White House has responded to a handful of petitions calling for various states to be given the right to secede from the United States, calling for unity and participatory government instead."
"The states included in the response are Florida, Louisiana, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, North Carolina, South Carolina and Texas. The Texas petition received over 125,000 signatures, more than any other."
I fear many people truly do not understand how serious most Americans take the Bill of Rights and especially the second amendment.
125K in Texas is not exactly an overwhelming number. There are probably that many that are still mad about the War of Northern Aggression.
Anyway I voted Libertarian last time. They are way too anarchist for me but I didn't like the other choices. I follow them on facebook and some of their posts are good.
RE: A new ACW..
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:01 pm
by parusski
ORIGINAL: warspite1
ORIGINAL: parusski
ORIGINAL: wodin
Your getting confused...Natali was talking about himself\herself not Warspite.
Confused??? Me? Never. Well, maybe this one time.
warspite1
Learn to read Dumbass [;)]
I will as soon as you learn to infer what I imply.[:-][:@][8|]
