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Too much of this serious stuff. Time to kill some Ruskies. Here's how the Russians responded to my Lake Ilmen offensive





NOT !!!!! That's whay it looked like prior the recon.....

This is Sillyflower at his best.





Each hex is defended and the Axis PZ go back to slogging thru the enemy. The difference is that there is little Reserve Activation

Here's after my move in AGN.....





His defense is a lot more secure than it looks. He has some swamp hexes with 300 plus defense values. I will not do much more. Great response by Sillyflower.

AGC





It's decepyive, but only 6 of those were 100.000 men assaults. He frequently throws in a armor brigade to frustrate me.

AGS

A big focus of mine is to increase my infantry morale. Usually it maxes out on turn 10 or so and drops with all the high risk attacks the Axis makes on attempting to take Moscow/Rostov. However since I knew that they wouldn't fall I;ve intentionally made massive attacks to boost morale, An example.






Nine !!! divisions beatup on the 15 th Soviet. Casualties were disappointing, but I gained 6 morale points !!! At this moment I have the highest average infantry morale ever in all my games. It's a tad under 80.5

And the stats





My casualties at 480 K .... his at 2250 K with 38 K armanent and 130 K in the human pool.

Have you prepared any fall back lines for the blizzard? I don't seen any forts built west of your front lines. If you can move back into some level 2 forts in January/February his blizzard offensive will slow considerably (not stop - but certainly slow down). I wouldn't want to see that 80+ German morale plummett too much during the blizzard.

Remember, these guys have put the hurt on some very good players during blizzard. I'm not planning to stand and fight much. Too passive ???? Probably. But as MT says, we will be flexible. But would I give up 20 hexes in front of Moscow >>> Yep

ORIGINAL: HITMAN202

Remember, these guys have put the hurt on some very good players during blizzard.

I know - I'm a current victim/opponent of these two myself. I survived the blizzard only to find myself smashing my panzers against a massive red wall in '42. I've made it to December '43 but don't think Berlin will survive to see 1945.

I'm headed for defeat in my game against the Pro's but one thing that did help me greatly was having that fort line to fall back to during the blizzard. Just trying to help a fellow Yankee.....

me too as soviet like to throw armor brigade to contact
these will keep attrition high
they have small impact for losses (few men & AFV)

me too as soviet like to throw armor brigade to contact

I am getting some counterattacks against those tank brigades that are helping my morale a bit.

ORIGINAL: Michael T

No I have not. Its true there is the odd spot where you can get 5 hexes done in one go but I have not found that it is worthy of keeping 2 RR in the area for that purpose. My RR is pretty standard at the upper levels. But I do take advantage of the Baltic rails now more than before, esp T1.

Michael T
Trying to follow these RR posts. I keep finding I cannot use all the Baltic FBD 4's RRC's conversion points. I tried dropping fuel since it had zero, till I Figured out that all the FBD's have zero fuel. Then I thought I was out of HQ range and kept moving the HQ nearer but now realize I am only 15/45. I did manage to get 5 hexes converted this turn but cannot use the last two points to move and convert the next hex. I this normal or am I missing something? Is that what you guys are talking about with the 4/5/4/4/5? Very new appreciate any help. Oh and Go Hitman 202!!

ORIGINAL: smokindave34


I know - I'm a current victim/opponent of these two myself. I survived the blizzard only to find myself smashing my panzers against a massive red wall in '42. I've made it to December '43 but don't think Berlin will survive to see 1945.

I'm headed for defeat in my game against the Pro's but one thing that did help me greatly was having that fort line to fall back to during the blizzard. Just trying to help a fellow Yankee.....

Smokin' holds record against us so far for fewest german unit losses during 1st blizzard. 8 divs + 1 regt. Some may remember his titanic winter struggle vs Pelton in the game before he played us. Must be true when they say Yanks start badly but are really quick learners.

Worst German performance was losing 32 divs in 5 or 6 turns of blizzard, but game ended then before we could snaffle up any more.

Perhaps someone should start a book on how Hitman does?

Enough of the serious talk on this AAR: from me anyway. Hit(complete name to taste) has the turn back but it's late here so the trashtalk will have to return tomorrow. Unless Hitxxxxx sends his turn back tonight and posts the pictures here as I have to avoid looking at his current turn for obvious reasons.

I leave it to you, Gentle Reader, to decide whether you want to spur Hitxxxx to do his turn in record speed.

Michael T
Trying to follow these RR posts. I keep finding I cannot use all the Baltic FBD 4's RRC's conversion points. I tried dropping fuel since it had zero, till I Figured out that all the FBD's have zero fuel. Then I thought I was out of HQ range and kept moving the HQ nearer but now realize I am only 15/45. I did manage to get 5 hexes converted this turn but cannot use the last two points to move and convert the next hex. I this normal or am I missing something? Is that what you guys are talking about with the 4/5/4/4/5? Very new appreciate any help. Oh and Go Hitman 202!!

You can only convert 6 hexes in the Baltic zone or 4 anywhere else by the rules as written (RAW). That is supposed to be a maximum. But there are odd places where the line dog legs or makes crazy turns and sometimes you can get 5 hexes done. But you would need to put 2 RR Units on one line to do it. Its generally not worth it long term.

ORIGINAL: carlkay58
But enough digression - let the trash talk phase resume between Sillyflower and Hitman.

Here goes. Someone (not Hitman for some inexplicable reason) kindly PM'd me to say he thought I had almost perfected the art of trash talk. Only others can be the judge of that, but I thought I would explain my rules for trashtalk on the forum. What consenting adults say to each other in private is not my concern.

I use the same techniques and rules for forum trashtalk as I use for doing leaving presentations at work.

1 Only do it to those who can cope and who can fight back. In forum terms the latter means never trashtalking Canadians.

2 Whilst appearing to humiliate the subject, you must never, ever do it for real or risk doing it. The trick is to appear to do it whilst making the subject look either better ( but not much!) in the mind of the listener/reader. The art is to go as close as possible to the line without crossing it. This is easier in presentations than in writing as the latter loses the nuances of tone and body language and there is no contemporaneous feedback from the subject or audience.

3 Being rude never has any place in trashtalk. Frankly I think it never has any place on the forum, and fortunately there is remarkably little rudeness on this one.

4 To say something funny about someone, there should be be a kernel of truth about them, or something they said that can be twisted and distorted almost (sic) beyond recognition.

5 Go for the man, not the ball. In other words don't use trashtalk to criticise someone's generalship. If you want to do the latter, keep it separate and constructive.

6 Mix the new with some running themes

7 Following from the above, trashtalk against an opponent who is not up to much is probably best avoided. Too much like kicking a puppy. Neither funny nor clever, and there is never any possible excuse.

8 OOOOPs. Rule 7 means I should stop teasing Hitman

9 Occasionally try to leave people wondering if you are being serious

ORIGINAL: HITMAN202

you're simply not being honest about your unhappiness in not having the opportunity to spank me during the up-coming blizzard.

My psychology background is in 'experimental psychology' (what I called torturing rats and humans) rather than psycho- or behavioural analysis or the like.

Dr H has an impressive professional track record in relation to the latter so I will defer to him for once if he criticises what I am about to say.

I'm a bit worried about this 'spanking' comment. It reads rather like a supressed wish on his part. Such sentiments are more appropriately expressed to the lovely Mrs H than to me.






PS Trying to get a remotely acceptable picture was not a terribly edifying experience!

ORIGINAL: HITMAN202

I apologize for being so frank.

Trashtalk:

rule 10: never apologise unless you break the other rules, which you never will.

Frankness is a good quality anyway.

ORIGINAL: sillyflower


1 Only do it to those who can cope and who can fight back. In forum terms the latter means never trashtalking Canadians.

Ouch!