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RE: Camerone in Berlin (11-1944)

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:01 pm
by morvael
ORIGINAL: STEF78

ORIGINAL: gingerbread

Thanks for the pic, but I'd wager that most of the 1.2M men and 600k ARM in the pools are other than German, as in Bulgarian, Rumanian or other, but it's only German that matters now (no offence to Hungary intended).
You're right, here are the german datas!

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Germans have no men, minor Axis allies have no ARMs. Those squads you have in the pool are just weapons, not weapons plus soldiers, so they have to wait in the arsenal for pick up.

RE: Camerone in Berlin (11-1944)

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:03 pm
by STEF78
ORIGINAL: morvael

ORIGINAL: SigUp

ORIGINAL: morvael

In .13 swapping squads with conversions and automated TOE upgrades is a breeze (and doesn't cost thousands of ARM). Tested it today with 43 campaign :-)
Morvael, you are the devil! You're teasing us with .13 when .12 isn't even out yet. [:D]

.12 is just around the corner now :-)
I will surrender before 1.07.13 is out [:(]

RE: Camerone in Berlin (11-1944)

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:07 pm
by STEF78
ORIGINAL: morvael


Germans have no men, minor Axis allies have no ARMs. Those squads you have in the pool are just weapons, not weapons plus soldiers, so they have to wait in the arsenal for pick up.
+1

The datas for Hungary!

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RE: Camerone in Berlin (11-1944)

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:09 pm
by morvael
Won't help you much when there is no manpower in German pool, mostly Rumania and Hungary will benefit from the patch as they are low on armaments. My answer for now is to spare manpower by using panzer divs for frontline duty - usually AFV situation improves once Panther tanks start production (in my game Axis are over 7000 AFVs). At this stage men are more valuable than tanks.

RE: Camerone in Berlin (11-1944)

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:17 pm
by STEF78
ORIGINAL: morvael

Won't help you much when there is no manpower in German pool, mostly Rumania and Hungary will benefit from the patch as they are low on armaments. My answer for now is to spare manpower by using panzer divs for frontline duty - usually AFV situation improves once Panther tanks start production (in my game Axis are over 7000 AFVs). At this stage men are more valuable than tanks.
May be a solution could be a "super" priority in reinforcement.

Due to the encirclement, rebuilding units catch the majority of new rifle or AFV. And I don't want to disband them as I will need new divs to dig behind my lines.

How can I send the majority of the new AFV in the Pzd which are close to Frankfurt an der oder?

Camerone in Berlin (11-1944)

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:33 pm
by STEF78
Turn 179, 16th november 1944

SHC attacks with full strength all along the front...

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... and breaks the oder line

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I gather a large part of my Pzd to counter attack, but I cannot fght againt the second stack!

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In Hungary, I continue to trade ground against time

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RE: Camerone in Berlin (11-1944)

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:37 pm
by Bozo_the_Clown
And yes Bozo I mean piss poor.

He, he, it's OK to call a design poor. Just not the game play of other people.

Sad to see that this bug makes the later part of the war kind of pointless. I'm glad we stopped out game in August/September 1943.

When is .13 coming out?

RE: Camerone in Berlin (11-1944)

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:43 pm
by STEF78
ORIGINAL: Bozo_the_Clown

Sad to see that this bug makes the later part of the war kind of pointless. I'm glad we stopped out game in August/September 1943.

When is .13 coming out?

Not sure Bozo that this is a bug

See below
ORIGINAL: morvael

Won't help you much when there is no manpower in German pool, mostly Rumania and Hungary will benefit from the patch as they are low on armaments. My answer for now is to spare manpower by using panzer divs for frontline duty - usually AFV situation improves once Panther tanks start production (in my game Axis are over 7000 AFVs). At this stage men are more valuable than tanks.

RE: Camerone in Berlin (11-1944)

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:46 pm
by SigUp
ORIGINAL: morvael

ORIGINAL: SigUp

ORIGINAL: morvael

In .13 swapping squads with conversions and automated TOE upgrades is a breeze (and doesn't cost thousands of ARM). Tested it today with 43 campaign :-)
Morvael, you are the devil! You're teasing us with .13 when .12 isn't even out yet. [:D]

.12 is just around the corner now :-)
Sorry to hijack that AAR, but what are the main changes for .12? [:)]

RE: Camerone in Berlin (11-1944)

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:52 pm
by morvael
Maybe Joel will post them before the patch is made available. The list is long... 59 bug fixes, 18 new features and a few pages of info about ground element changes and updated mild blizzard factors.

RE: Camerone in Berlin (11-1944)

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:58 pm
by Denniss
16 of the Pz/PzG divs may be in bad shape as well because they are still using outdated mot rifle squads with nothing left in pool. AFAIR the mot rifle + do not even have an upgrade path.
BTW where does the majority of this unused manpower comes from? -> All other nation pools should be empty.

RE: Camerone in Berlin (11-1944)

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:04 pm
by gingerbread
Bulgaria's MP multiplier could be set to 0 from the beginning as the men are never used. It only causes this kind of confusion.

RE: Camerone in Berlin (11-1944)

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:26 pm
by STEF78
ORIGINAL: Denniss

16 of the Pz/PzG divs may be in bad shape as well because they are still using outdated mot rifle squads with nothing left in pool. AFAIR the mot rifle + do not even have an upgrade path.
BTW where does the majority of this unused manpower comes from? -> All other nation pools should be empty.
+1
You're right. The sum of the parts does not restore the total figure

Camerone in Berlin (11-1944)

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:00 pm
by STEF78
Turn 180, 16th november 1941, 84 VP left

Schascha extends his bridgehead on the western bank of the Oder. He controls now 4 hexes. Without AP, I'm unable to optimize my organization. My counterattack fails.

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In Hungary, I continue to fall back.

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Camerone in Berlin (11-1944)

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:56 pm
by STEF78
Turn 181, 30th November 1944

Schascha extends his bridge head over the Oder. He his now 20 miles from Berlin.

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He also attacks across the Bohemian moutains. Thanks to the terrain, the line should hold several turns.

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In Hungary, I continue to retreat. I show a strange result

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Camerone in Berlin (11-1944)

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:14 pm
by STEF78
I post my screens 1/2 turns behind the game. I've currently a strange unit, never involved in any fight.

It's closed from the front, Under command, supplied but never does anything

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Camerone in Berlin (11-1944)

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:37 pm
by STEF78
I change my mind and decide to fight for Budapest. I find it Worth to keep Hungarian army and the VP on my side

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Camerone in Berlin (12-1944)

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:47 pm
by STEF78
Turn 182, 7th december 1944

1) Berlin

SHC earns ground but I counterattack with my best units. I have some luck: 2/1. Schascha loses 240 AFV but it doesn't matter for him.

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2) Silesia

Schascha tries to cross the moutains and attacks also through the Ostrava gap

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3) Hungary

SHC is too confident and makes no recon... He hasn't discovered Budapest's defences yet

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Camerone in Berlin (12-1944)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:10 am
by STEF78
Turn 183, 14th december 1944

Bulge attack ready! When Paris will be retaken, I will be able to send my wonder weapons to the east!

A general wiew of the the front. as said Freddy Mercury, I'm "Under presure"

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Camerone in Berlin (12-1944)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:12 am
by STEF78
Closest view on Berlin

Heavy losses!! But I loose ground. Berlin is under fire.

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