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RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR)
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:04 am
by SigUp
I know that. It's just that I think it's ridiculous that the amount of losses never changes much, no matter whether you are attacking with 400.000, 100.000 or 70.000 men. I never got the feeling that WITE has something along the likes of a stacking penalty. It seems to operate under the principle "the more the better", which is a little bit illogical in my eyes. I mean, if I hit a concentration of 10.000 men with an artillery shell is obviously going to cause more losses, than if I hit 1.000 in the same area. But WITE doesn't seem to consider that.
RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR)
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:21 am
by Flaviusx
Yes, the combat engine is systematically biased in favor of the attacker in this way.
RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR)
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:07 pm
by Ketza
I am guessing this will be a holdover for the western front. Might be ugly in Normandy!
Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR)
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:59 pm
by STEF78
Turn 85, 28th january 1943
Finns always retreating, Pskov threatened...
Briansk
Tactical situation begins to look ugly
Lower Dniepr
Oshawott is heading South where the resistance is the weakiest

RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR)
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:12 pm
by Wuffer
dunno who's thread this is, but how fast could he move forward w/o combat? Infantry and/or mobile units?
I have no clue: supply, trucks, rail repair etc. ... it's a huge army, maybe he's a bit short on vehicles or something else?
And just maybe(!) the German should deny combat and retreat in order to a new line?
As said before this might be stupid, but this looks really no good neither.
And this is the only idea I had since weeks to contain this mess at least a little longer.
RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR)
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:26 am
by STEF78
ORIGINAL: Wuffer
dunno who's thread this is, but how fast could he move forward w/o combat? Infantry and/or mobile units?
I have no clue: supply, trucks, rail repair etc. ... it's a huge army, maybe he's a bit short on vehicles or something else?
And just maybe(!) the German should deny combat and retreat in order to a new line?
As said before this might be stupid, but this looks really no good neither.
And this is the only idea I had since weeks to contain this mess at least a little longer.
It's not a stupid question at all
Regarding logistical points, Oshawott has the answer
At the moment he is able to pick up 3/4 points in the front and advance:
- 1 hex per turn in front of well entrenched and good german/finns units
- 2/3 hexes per turn if i's a weak spot.
He cannot make great moves because it's winter/blizzard and because the german army is still strong
Germans cannot deny combat everywhere. If so, we would be in Berlin summer 1943 and space must be traded against time carefulley and not wasted.
But concerning the retreat, you will have a first answer soon.
Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR)
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:48 pm
by STEF78
Turn 86, 4th febrary 1943
Always Under pressure in Leningrad, Pskov and the lower Dniepr. I need to shorten my lines and avoid any breakthrough in the center.
I give up the Sumy/Briansk salliant

Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR)
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:19 pm
by STEF78
Turn 87, 11th february 1943
The beginning of the end for the finns
Pskov
2 consecutive weeks of assault: the city has finally fallen...
Leningrad
Back to the 1939's border and beyond
Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR)
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:16 pm
by STEF78
Turn 88, 18th February 1942
Heavy pressure in the South. Reinforcements are gathered to build a solid line of defence Nikolaïev/Kirovograd. As usual early 1943, Italians are sacrified

Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR)
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:06 pm
by STEF78
Turn 89, 25th february 1943
Blood and fire in the South but strong reinforcements arrive quickly

Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR)
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:56 pm
by STEF78
Turn 90, 4th march 1943
Poltava
Russians have reached my defensive line. Losses are heavy when units are not well entrenched, especially with 90 enginer value!!!
Krivoi Rog
Still sacrifying italian units.... I know it's gamey but they are going home within a few months... 2nd SS PzK strenghens the defence.

Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR)
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:02 pm
by STEF78
Turn 91, 11th march 1943
Vyborg
Desperate attempt to earn a few more weeks
Krivoi Rog
Heavy fights and able to counterattack in some places. Pzd are low on AFV

Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR)
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:19 am
by STEF78
Turn 92, 18th march 1943
Center
Guns in action, Russians now able to attack at full strength
South
Heavy fights and a good defensive success
Main battles

Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR)
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:39 pm
by STEF78
Turn 93, 25th march 1943
Last turn before mud. Osahwott is a very cautious defender and attacker. As stated in his AAR, I think he should have put more pressure in the South. The front on the Lower Dniepr was not far to collapse and I had to send there 2 Pzk + II PzSS K + several Inf divs to close the hole. But of course it's easier to say than to do.
The Italians and the Rumanians were sacrified to earn time.
Summer 1943 will be much harder, SHC will get MP's and progressively close the morale gap.
I will use all natural defences available (Dniepr, Dvina, Pripyat) and as anyone can notice, there is almost nothing to stop the russians in Krivoi Rog area.. . except my best units [;)]
At the moment, I make some local counerattacks
Center
Oshawott always let a path for his units not to be routed. at this time I placed a Pzd on this hex!
South
2 successfull counerattacks
RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR)
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:16 am
by loki100
Given how grim it all looked in the winter offensive, I reckon you've done a great job defensively since then. You've been effective in stalling him and at least giving yourself some space to play with in 1943.
RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR)
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:17 am
by STEF78
ORIGINAL: loki100
Given how grim it all looked in the winter offensive, I reckon you've done a great job defensively since then. You've been effective in stalling him and at least giving yourself some space to play with in 1943.
Thanks. I try to avoid any encirclement and spare my Manpower/morale.
But not sure that defending successfully as GHC during winter 1942/1943 should be considered as exceptional.
I see the growing wave of russian army coming and my ditch will crack during this summer or more surely during winter 1943/1944.
I still believe that this game will end summer 1944.
Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR)
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:53 pm
by STEF78
Turn 100, 13 may 1943
Mud is away and russians will hit hard. A global view of the front. I give up the esatern bank of the Dniepr South of Kiev
Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR)
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:58 pm
by STEF78
Turn 100, 13 may 1943
A closest view of the Dniepr withdrawal
And a bad dice roll, finns surrender...
A good news, my FB are in good shape
Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR)
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:19 am
by STEF78
Turn 101, 20th may 1943
Summer will be long... First overview of the Russian power.
Pskov
Units in clear terrain won't be able to resist. Oshawott clears the surroundings of Pskov
Center
Oshawott methodically destroys my first line of defence. A held can be get in light woods with a full Pzd as reserve
South
Idem, clearing the first line.
Battles
Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR)
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:11 am
by STEF78
Turn 102, 27th may 1943
An overview of the front with the main axes of soviet attacks and my favorite FB now efficient
My counterattacks, not a good deal but absolutely necessary
