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ORIGINAL: wings7

ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen

I have day off from work and I have spent it playing Sid Meier's Civilization IV: Beyond the Sword, reinforced with Caveman2Cosmos mod. Denmark went to war against me, and brought larger stacks of units than I have seen in a Civ game before. Largest stack was over 30 units, and it was only 1 stack among several. Looks like this mod makes wars significantly larger scale.

Awesome and challenging! [:)]

Now when I think about it (fridge logic has kicked in), it was dumbass effort the AI made. Like 100 units charging at my border city, but there wasn't dedicated siege unit (battering ram is the best right now). My cities are well developed and spam several well trained archers in a turn (City Garrison II right away) and city itself has earth wall for defense + then some. Dane archers made ranged attacks against my city, but that was only on the second or third turn of the attacks, not the first. At least Christian IV had enough of intelligence for peace after the initial assault got totally 0wned.

Just like CIV II, III, IV, and V, I'll wait for the complete edition. I don't understand when people complain about DLCs. If you are the type that want in on early and have the money than great! Otherwise, be patient and wait for the complete, gold, or whatever they call it that comes with all DLCs and popular mods.

Those who complain that CIV VI is a dumb down version obviously have not played the game especially if they compare it to CIV V. CIV VI is equivalent to CIV V with all its expansions.

ORIGINAL: oninowon

Just like CIV II, III, IV, and V, I'll wait for the complete edition. I don't understand when people complain about DLCs. If you are the type that want in on early and have the money than great! Otherwise, be patient and wait for the complete, gold, or whatever they call it that comes with all DLCs and popular mods.

Those who complain that CIV VI is a dumb down version obviously have not played the game especially if they compare it to CIV V. CIV VI is equivalent to CIV V with all its expansions.

I agree! Welcome to the boards here Wayne! [:)]

After reviewing the forum for this game at Steam, I have never seen so many complaining babies! People saying the game is totally unplayable, I won't play until I can make my own maps, the AI is broken, on and on it goes. After every patch, I see almost all replies to the patch notes complaining and not thanking Firaxis for all the items that they fixed. It's a wonder devs even stay in this business with such ungrateful babies.

I've played it now for almost 500 turns and after the last two patches, it plays excellent. My only complaint is that the end game info sucks. [:)]

ORIGINAL: LarryP

After reviewing the forum for this game at Steam, I have never seen so many complaining babies! People saying the game is totally unplayable, I won't play until I can make my own maps, the AI is broken, on and on it goes. After every patch, I see almost all replies to the patch notes complaining and not thanking Firaxis for all the items that they fixed. It's a wonder devs even stay in this business with such ungrateful babies.

I've played it now for almost 500 turns and after the last two patches, it plays excellent. My only complaint is that the end game info sucks. [:)]

Yes, there are alot of whiners on Steam, I tend to ignore them, there are alot of mature gamers too, we need to hear more of their positive statements...I'm glad to hear you are enjoying it! [:)]

ORIGINAL: LarryP

It's a wonder devs even stay in this business with such ungrateful babies.

Let's hope Firaxis reads more CivFanatics forums and less Steam ones.

i just wish all steam members had to put a age on there profile, then you could filter all forums comments by age, as there's far too many kids on steam who moan about everything, when most our age can remember either typing in game codes to get the game to even work, basic programming, or loading up a tape, and waiting half an hour for it to load, so we know more of what's good and what's bad, as we've seen almost it all in our days of gaming.

CIVILIZATION 6 ADDS AUSTRALIA DLC, MOD TOOLS SUPPORT ( sounds interesting to me tbh)

Yeah, I am always wondering what the ages are of the crying posts. Posts like "I won't play the game until they add blah." One missing item and the game is trash to them. I see this all the time in the Steamy forums.

ORIGINAL: LarryP

After reviewing the forum for this game at Steam, I have never seen so many complaining babies! People saying the game is totally unplayable, I won't play until I can make my own maps, the AI is broken, on and on it goes. After every patch, I see almost all replies to the patch notes complaining and not thanking Firaxis for all the items that they fixed. It's a wonder devs even stay in this business with such ungrateful babies.

I've played it now for almost 500 turns and after the last two patches, it plays excellent. My only complaint is that the end game info sucks. [:)]

I gave Civ6 another try last night. Nothing had changed; I still don't like it. But I don't complain--I just don't play the game. If you enjoy playing it, more power to you. But I would rather play Civilization II: Test of Time than Civ6.

As for my age...well let's just say I am old enough to qualify for a senior citizen discount. [:'(]

What are the things you want to see changed? They changed the AI a lot which was my original gripe. Wars are now started more rationally.

ORIGINAL: LarryP

What are the things you want to see changed? They changed the AI a lot which was my original gripe. Wars are now started more rationally.

Eh? Just had Russia and Egypt DoW me, the turn before they were friendly. The AI is still very aggro imo. But my main issues right now, are two things really;
1. Unability to move around the map with WASD. A small thing, yet one that is quite annoying.
2. No warnings that you can fire upon enemy units. This one is actually very annoying to me, and a feature that has been in the game atleast since Civ III. No idea why they decided this was not needed in VI.

But I think that the main reason for people complaining, is that they compare Civ VI with current Civ V. Add a few big DLCs to VI, and I think it will be better than V, but as of now, for me VI feels "light". Not bad, just light.

ORIGINAL: LarryP

What are the things you want to see changed? They changed the AI a lot which was my original gripe. Wars are now started more rationally.

I would like to see Civilization VI be more like the initial games in the series. Civilization VI is overly complicated. I don't like having to consult endless charts, manuals, and user guides in order to play the game. The early games in the series were easy to get into, just right when someone has come home from a hard day's work and wants to relax and take it easy, maybe have a couple of beers or a highball while playing a game of Civilization; s/he doesn't want to have to think too hard or do a lot of research in order to play a computer game.

It looks to me like some PC game companies have forgotten what the purpose of a PC game should be, which is to have fun. They have forgotten a basic rule--K.I.S.S. which is the abbreviation for Keep it Simple, Stupid.

ORIGINAL: Greybriar

I would like to see Civilization VI be more like the initial games in the series. Civilization VI is overly complicated. I don't like having to consult endless charts, manuals, and user guides in order to play the game. The early games in the series were easy to get into, just right when someone has come home from a hard day's work and wants to relax and take it easy, maybe have a couple of beers or a highball while playing a game of Civilization; s/he doesn't want to have to think too hard or do a lot of research in order to play a computer game.

Vanilla Civ4 fills that bill. At least for me.

It looks to me like some PC game companies have forgotten what the purpose of a PC game should be, which is to have fun. They have forgotten a basic rule--K.I.S.S. which is the abbreviation for Keep it Simple, Stupid.

SEE THIS HERE! THAT is the reason why great majority of gamers don't want to get involved with WitP, WitE, WitW, and other monster war games!

ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen

ORIGINAL: Greybriar

I would like to see Civilization VI be more like the initial games in the series. Civilization VI is overly complicated. I don't like having to consult endless charts, manuals, and user guides in order to play the game. The early games in the series were easy to get into, just right when someone has come home from a hard day's work and wants to relax and take it easy, maybe have a couple of beers or a highball while playing a game of Civilization; s/he doesn't want to have to think too hard or do a lot of research in order to play a computer game.

Vanilla Civ4 fills that bill. At least for me.

Vanilla Civ4 may fill the bill, but that was two Civ generations back. I played Civ 4 to death and still play it sometimes simply because I don't like Civ 6 and I wasn't particularly fond of Civ 5.

ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen

It looks to me like some PC game companies have forgotten what the purpose of a PC game should be, which is to have fun. They have forgotten a basic rule--K.I.S.S. which is the abbreviation for Keep it Simple, Stupid.

SEE THIS HERE! THAT is the reason why great majority of gamers don't want to get involved with WitP, WitE, WitW, and other monster war games!

You are comparing apples to oranges. The Civilization series is not anywhere close to being a Gary Grigsby game. Think beer & pretzels vs. Grognard.

ORIGINAL: Greybriar

ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen

It looks to me like some PC game companies have forgotten what the purpose of a PC game should be, which is to have fun. They have forgotten a basic rule--K.I.S.S. which is the abbreviation for Keep it Simple, Stupid.

SEE THIS HERE! THAT is the reason why great majority of gamers don't want to get involved with WitP, WitE, WitW, and other monster war games!

You are comparing apples to oranges. The Civilization series is not anywhere close to being a Gary Grigsby game. Think beer & pretzels vs. Grognard.

Isn't that the point?

ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen

Isn't that the point?

Yeah, but you brought up Gary Grigsby's games and I was about half asleep.... Well, you get the picture.

Sometimes you feel like beer & pretzels, sometimes you feel like Grigsby.

Cheers,
CC

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Civilization VI offers new ways to engage with your world: cities now physically expand across the map, active research in technology and culture unlocks new potential, and competing leaders will pursue their own agendas based on their historical traits as you race for one of five ways to achieve victory in the game."
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Patrick

I guess most Civ players here have already bought it...[:)]

ORIGINAL: wings7

I guess most Civ players here have already bought it...[:)]

And gave up on it. [:@]