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RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:34 am
by YohanTM
Good day all, a brief summary (sorry I travel too much to do justice to an AAR)

The game was quite fun. MrLongleg advised he was a less experienced player so I wanted to try a few different angles of play. Strategy A was to completely eliminate France and as a secondary plan I wanted to try a major uboat campaign. I think if I had stuck to that strategy I might have had a chance to win. My Waterloo was the attack on the UK. He defended against it well and I was never able to recover against those losses (all full rebuilds due to low supply). He played Russia extremely well, patient and steady until it broke my lines for good.

The last note was I gave France to Italy as I wanted to see how they assisted the enhanced MPPs would change them. I'd say it was marginal at best, funds are much better in Germany's hands.

RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:53 am
by KorutZelva
ORIGINAL: YohanTM

Good day all, a brief summary (sorry I travel too much to do justice to an AAR)

The game was quite fun. MrLongleg advised he was a less experienced player so I wanted to try a few different angles of play. Strategy A was to completely eliminate France and as a secondary plan I wanted to try a major uboat campaign. I think if I had stuck to that strategy I might have had a chance to win. My Waterloo was the attack on the UK. He defended against it well and I was never able to recover against those losses (all full rebuilds due to low supply). He played Russia extremely well, patient and steady until it broke my lines for good.

The last note was I gave France to Italy as I wanted to see how they assisted the enhanced MPPs would change them. I'd say it was marginal at best, funds are much better in Germany's hands.

I salute your adventuring spirit (I will do the same vs people I think I hold a skill edge over) but that was a lot of experimentation to put in the same game! [X(]

Just the 'France to Italy' would have been enough risky enough on its own. Speaking of which, not sure this play would be viable in any circumstance. That sweet sweet plunder is a must have for Barbarossa. That's not to say there's no benefit helping Italy's income, I typically earmark everything from Egypt to Persia for precisely that myself. That's my policy insurance in case the game runs long. The extra income allows to narrow the air unit gap by maxing its Italy build limit...

RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:01 pm
by pjg100
I would like to throw my hat in the ring. Have played a few PBEM games, have done okay. Am playing two now, holding my own although it's still early days. If anyone is interested please let me know.

RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:37 pm
by KorutZelva
ORIGINAL: pjg100

I would like to throw my hat in the ring. Have played a few PBEM games, have done okay. Am playing two now, holding my own although it's still early days. If anyone is interested please let me know.

Here are your potential opponents,

*#YohanTM (2-2) - *Room (1-0) - *IrishGuards (1-2) - *BPINisBack (1-1) - *MrLongleg (1-0)

Msg one and pick a side.

RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:37 pm
by room
Sorry I accepted PJL1973 challenge a few days ago... Barbarossa is about to start [X(]

I did do one exotic venue... I refused to change the convoy line from Norway. Quite a bad decision, I would say but nothing extravagantly bad.

RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:37 pm
by KorutZelva
ORIGINAL: room

Sorry I accepted PJL1973 challenge a few days ago... Barbarossa is about to start [X(]

I did do one exotic venue... I refused to change the convoy line from Norway. Quite a bad decision, I would say but nothing extravagantly bad.

Noted!

RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:42 pm
by Sugar
How I understand the settings my only hope to play a tourney match is to be challenged by someone a lvl below myself, is this right?

And shouldn`t the tourney end at some defined point? Maybe starting a new one could reraise the interest in participating and playing.

RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:13 pm
by HamburgerMeat
I will also throw my hat into the ring. If anyone wants to play let me know, otherwise I'll issue a challenge in a few days.

RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:43 pm
by KorutZelva
ORIGINAL: Sugar

How I understand the settings my only hope to play a tourney match is to be challenged by someone a lvl below myself, is this right?

And shouldn`t the tourney end at some defined point? Maybe starting a new one could reraise the interest in participating and playing.

It's not your only hope for playing. You can play games outside the parameter of the tourney. [;)]

It's going to end at some point. Impossible to know for now if it will be when I get tired of doing its maintenance for whiny, ungrateful players or when Hubert launches a new SC game. [:D]

RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:41 pm
by Sugar
According to your reports, 8 players are not playing any matches, and another 3 are temporarely out of duty. A deadline could be motivating I guess, and after finishing the first tourney anotherone could start with new hopes.

RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:48 pm
by KorutZelva
ORIGINAL: Sugar

According to your reports, 8 players are not playing any matches, and another 3 are temporarely out of duty. A deadline could be motivating I guess, and after finishing the first tourney anotherone could start with new hopes.

Summer is summer. All things considered participation is not that bad. Broadcasting your availability helps though because not everyone monitor the first page of the thread.

Maybe if you promise to go easy on them or fight with one hand behind you back you can convince someone from the second level to challenge you? [8D] I suspect some people on the second level are waiting for you to be locked in a game to be able to challenge each other to advance. Can't blame them really. [:'(]

RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:35 pm
by Sugar
Summer is summer.
Oh well, forgot about that, good point.
I suspect some people on the second level are waiting for you to be locked in a game to be able to challenge each other to advance.
Aren't they allowed to play on their own lvl?
Maybe if you promise to go easy on them or fight with one hand behind you back you can convince someone from the second level to challenge you?
It`s not so much about me, but this system is a bit restrictive, don't you think?

Alltogether I guess the goals are already achieved: the balancing seems to be satisfying, and this kind of ranking could be the base for a championship tourney with group stage and subsequently KO. This way a tourney would provide limited numbers matches and timelines.




RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:59 pm
by KorutZelva
ORIGINAL: Sugar
I suspect some people on the second level are waiting for you to be locked in a game to be able to challenge each other to advance.
Aren't they allowed to play on their own lvl?
Maybe if you promise to go easy on them or fight with one hand behind you back you can convince someone from the second level to challenge you?
It`s not so much about me, but this system is a bit restrictive, don't you think?

Alltogether I guess the goals are already achieved: the balancing seems to be satisfying, and this kind of ranking could be the base for a championship tourney with group stage and subsequently KO. This way a tourney would provide limited numbers matches and timelines.

They are allowed to challenge at same level only when they run out of upstairs opponent, precisely so that people in your situation see more action. In theory anyway. [;)]

The pyramid system ain't perfect (I'd probably do a simpler ladder were I to do it again) but it does have advantages over brackets because it allows less down time for active player (well except those at the top). With a bracket you have to wait for your next opponent, which can be a long time because the pace of play from players to players can widely vary.

I'm not too hung up on tourney duration mostly because it's more to match people on similar skill level than crowning any 'king'. Now that we have some pyramid steps established, I don't really want to start it over. I do wish that people on the second step would be a bit more on the ball to try to ascend to the next step. [:)]

RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:43 pm
by MrLongleg
New game startet: pjg100 (Axis) vs MrLongleg (Allies)


RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:51 pm
by KorutZelva
YohanTM, Rannug61, IrishGuards, BPINisBack any of you guys want to challenge the Sugaryman?

RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:53 am
by BPINisBACK
You mean to be tortured by Sugar?
[:D][:D][:D]

RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:00 am
by Sugar
Hehe, I'd rather wait until the next bugfix anyway.

RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:46 am
by KorutZelva
ORIGINAL: Sugar

Hehe, I'd rather wait until the next bugfix anyway.

After kicking a fuss about not playing?


RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:57 am
by BPINisBACK
New game startet: BPINisBACK(Axis) vs HamburgerMeat(Allies)
HamburgerMeat challenges me! :)

RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:10 am
by YohanTM
I challenge Sugar - I will take Allies

Advise welcome :)