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Hehe, ooops, indeed....wouldnt it be best to treat them like reloading of torps at those destroyer tenders? Hopefully one for an early patch [:)]

Dawg

ORIGINAL: MadDawg

Hehe, ooops, indeed....wouldnt it be best to treat them like reloading of torps at those destroyer tenders? Hopefully one for an early patch [:)]

Dawg

I'm being a real pain in the butt about it, so hopefully it gets addressed. Also, hopefully they know I'm just a big teddy bear with serious social issues![;)]

HMS Glasgow still floats! In fact she is not as bad as the combat report showed.....the torp hit was not as bad as first thought and she is now steaming to get clear of the CVs.
Singapore is not going to be a walk over, Luskan's bubbling has allowed my troops to draw a breath and they are now well prepared to fight to the death. The same can be said of those galant heros at Clark. bayonets are fixed and grim hard looks have been drawn. To battle ! To Battle !

ORIGINAL: Raverdave

HMS Glasgow still floats! In fact she is not as bad as the combat report showed.....the torp hit was not as bad as first thought and she is now steaming to get clear of the CVs.
Singapore is not going to be a walk over, Luskan's bubbling has allowed my troops to draw a breath and they are now well prepared to fight to the death. The same can be said of those galant heros at Clark. bayonets are fixed and grim hard looks have been drawn. To battle ! To Battle !

Thats what i like to hear..come on the Allies[:)]

Well Luskan stuffed up not once but twice! First he forgot to tell his troops, whom are now starting the attack on Singapore, to fire and so I got s free hit with my arty killing 92 of the banananana boys.
Second stuff up, he decided to have a crack at Trincomalee and got slapped by my coastal defence units, which cost him some DDs and I am sure I landed some hits on his BBs as well. But as you can see from the screenie I have lost sight of where all of his ships are..........not only that, I didn't even see the bloody things heading in![X(] I have a major problem in the form of not having enough naval air search units....long range ones ! Now I have some on the West coast of the US and a LOT at PH but fat lot of good they are going to do me there. I will now have to look at staging some of the PBYs over to the Far East which is going to take at least 3 to 4 hops or load them onto a AK which will take at least 3 weeks (I'd have to sail under Australia to avoid the the bases that Luskan has setup in Burma/DEI.

Here is the Combat report[:D]
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/17/42

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Naval bombardment of Trimcomalee, at 15,25 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!


Allied aircraft


Allied aircraft losses
no losses

106 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu
DD Yukaze, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
DD Maikaze, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
DD Nowaki, Shell hits 15, on fire, heavy damage
DD Yakaze, Shell hits 14, on fire, heavy damage
CL Isuzu
CL Jintsu
CL Kashii
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 5, on fire
CA Takao
BB Nagato
BB Haruna

Allied Ships
PG Hollyhock, Shell hits 1, on fire
PG Nigella, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Bendigo, Shell hits 1, on fire
MSW Cromarty, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
TK Empire Onyx, Shell hits 1, on fire


Allied ground losses:
141 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
Vehicles lost 2

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 25
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 1

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Naval bombardment of Trimcomalee, at 15,25


Allied aircraft


Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane II: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Kumano
CA Suzuya
BB Kongo
DD Sanae
DD Wakatake
DD Kuretake
CL Yura
CL Kinu
CL Kitakami
BB Hyuga

Allied Ships
AK Empire Hope, Shell hits 1
TK Empire Onyx, Shell hits 3, on fire
MSW Goulburn, Shell hits 2
AK Empire Bunting, Shell hits 1
PG Hollyhock, Shell hits 1, on fire
MSW Maryborough, Shell hits 2, on fire
PG Nigella, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
72 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 22
Port hits 2

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Day Air attack on 5th Division, at 23,50


Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 7


Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 3 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Wirraway bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 21st PA Division, at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 19
Ki-48 Lily x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 4 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 3 damaged


Allied ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 7000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 7000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
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Day Air attack on 91st PA Division, at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
Ki-21 Sally x 80
Ki-48 Lily x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 8 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 4 damaged


Allied ground losses:
188 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
20 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
18 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
17 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
7 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 7000 feet
10 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 7000 feet
12 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
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Sub attack at 37,60

Japanese Ships
TK Sanraku Maru
MSW Toshi Maru #1
MSW Kyo Maru #1

Allied Ships
SS Sturgeon


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Ground combat at Singapore

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 46077 troops, 531 guns, 8 vehicles

Defending force 150145 troops, 1532 guns, 379 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
92 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Another interesting turn this turn. Raver thinks I forgot to attack singapore. He really doesn't seem to understand the way land combat units work. I don't have a plethora of support or supplies or troops at singapore - so I need every advantage I can get.

Just a few days rest makes the difference between disruption of 80 and fatigue of 70, to disruption of 20 and fatigue of 30, which is 50 times more effective. My troops are going to take it easy for a few days while Raver attacks and wears his little self out, and then I'm going to start reducing that fort. Same deal at Clark - I need to get my troops close to clark - and then stop marching long enough for them to regain their edge.

In china things are settling back to a sensible level with a nice big fat pair of armies at Sian and at Lanchow.

Bananaananananannana boys is living in dream land if he thinks that he has ANY hope of taking any more cities in China. At one base I have enough troops that I have almost 6000 attack points ! I am more than happy to wait for him to come to me. Time is on my side in China.

The other thing I didn't talk about in my last post is the shock at finding not 3 but 5 BBs in the bay of bengal. I was carefully watching and had only seen (or been informed) of 3, so seening 5 BBs roll up on my doorstep came as something as a shock to say the least ! Once again it just shows that I really really need to somehow get a LOT of long range search aircraft into that area.

Looks like CLAA's aren't the plane killers they were in UV.

These are British CLAAs in the early pacific war era. They are not nearly as effective as the US San Diego class CLAAs, which were heavily loaded with Bofors and Oelrikons after Coral Sea.

Well my initial probe of the defences at singapore was not so promising. 70000 troops stand against my 150000, behind a level 7 fort. I lost 2000 men in that probe, although Raver lost 1200, it seems that Lanchow is going to repeat itself all over again. I have no doubt that the same awaits me in the PI. However I have a few large engineer and arty units that I will devote to one Campaign, and then a second. Also, I've now got a surplus of two divisions that I can use (political points I can use to steal divisions from elsewhere), not to mention a surplus of force aronud the map that I can try to condense.

The problem will be that I don't want to recall large combat brigades from kendari, Rabaul etc. I want to keep them there so that they can strike in the first instant I am ready to use them. Hopefully starvation wll start affecting the defenders at both locations (especially singapore, has70000 troops existing on next to nothing).

Maybe Raver will be nice enough to post a estimate of how long it will take theuspplies to run out?

Sinapore can last at least until early March.......Clark is another issue alrady the troops are on half rations[:(]

Sinapore can last at least until early March.......Clark is another issue alrady the troops are on half rations

Does the game give the option of transporting supplies overland from base to base? (That was MacArthur's one big mistake in the PI: he should have trucked out more stores instead of declaring Manila an open city. The Japanese bombed it anyway.)

Option? It happens automatically. It is just that he isn't producing any because I bombed or captured all the resource centres in the PI.

ORIGINAL: Luskan

It is just that he isn't producing any because I bombed or captured all the resource centres in the PI.

Nassty Lussskan, wes hates him wes does wes hates him![:@]

Option? It happens automatically. It is just that he isn't producing any because I bombed or captured all the resource centres in the PI.

Okay . . . but what about stockpiles of existing supplies? Are those moved automatically? (I know that it's possible to evacuate them by loading them on ships.)

Move the HQ and the supplies will follow.

Luskan has lost all reason.........I have just spotted KB (who else could it be?) due west of PH and have no doubt that he is going to strike. Madness! Moving against a fully alert PH is like putting your nuts in a vice and turning the handle to see what will happen! I can only guess that he is trying to catch my CVs (which are safely tucked-up on the west coast waiting for one other carrier to arrive), and maybe try and sink some more of my wounded BBs.......most of which are now in the shipyards in the US.

But it is not his presumed attack on PH the bothers me as much as the fact as to how close he got to PH before being detected. Note the screenie below...........this is the FIRST indication that I had of Luskan being in the area despite having four squadrons of PBYs flying.

ORIGINAL: Raverdave

But it is not his presumed attack on PH the bothers me as much as the fact as to how close he got to PH before being detected. Note the screenie below...........this is the FIRST indication that I had of Luskan being in the area despite having four squadrons of PBYs flying.

He is still 300 miles away from Pearl, he can’t attack from this position KB will have to come closer and they’re already detected. PBY guys did their job right.

No they didn't - I've eben there for three turns trying to sink his bloody ASW hunter killer group and got frustrated and moved 1 hex closer.

Well, the allied airforce lies continue. And so my pilots lie too, to keep things even.
The actual stats for this turns second pearl harbour.

1. I lost a total of 40 aircraft in it, mostly vals. I had appoximately 32 damaged planes land on deck however. I also had 4 op losses on top of this - most of the 40 aircraft were vals lost to flak.

2. Raver probably lost about 110 aircraft in reality. In the fantasy world fighter pilots live in, he lost thousands. In any case, I brutalised his aircraft with my massively superior plane and pilot quality, linked with a numerical superiority. KB still has 401 aircraft on her decks (and I've now got hundreds of replacement aircraft for the pilots that made it).

3. The allied airstrike didn't land any hits. Or if they did, the bombs were duds because there ain't no damage at ALL. That is right, those two cvs are both 3 sys each and 0 and 0 fire and flt, and the Kirishima is up to 5 sys damage, and 0 and 0. So to those inventive bomber pilots - when you land a 1000lbs bomb in a jap flat top's deck, you'll find that at the very least you start a little fire. if there is just a puff of water, you missed, or a puff of smoke, that is my AA firing at you.

4. Low on fuel so I won't be able to continue the fight, but it doesn't matter as Raver decided to put New mexico and Colorado in a tf rather than in port. If they'd been in port I couldn't have sunk them and I would have lost a lot more planes (was actually hoping for a port raid to get some AR ships blown to hell, but oh well. Both ships sank immediately. Makes up for my pathetic pearl harbour. I think that is 5 enemy bbs sunk so far. Raver thought he could use them as floating AA platforms - and although flak cost me about 26 aircraft . . . it is just too early in the war for those bbs to have the super flak they have later.

I'll take the 44 lost planes and about 35 lost pilots and put two big USN bbs to the bottom thanks along with crippling Pearl's air defence for months to come. More wildcats than I expected however.


Enjoy - and also take note of some of the more amazing lies that pilots and flak gunners come up with.



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/22/42

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Sub attack at 47,103

Japanese Ships
SS I-173

Allied Ships
DD Stuart
DD Le Triomphant

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Day Air attack on TF at 109,69

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 65

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 8
SBD Dauntless x 13
P-40B Tomahawk x 24
P-40E Warhawk x 3
B-18A Bolo x 17
A-20B Boston x 6
B-17E Fortress x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 28 destroyed, 4 damaged - erm . . . more like 12 destroyed 1 damaged.

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 14 destroyed, 2 damaged
SBD Dauntless: 17 destroyed, 1 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 42 destroyed, 2 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 6 destroyed
B-18A Bolo: 14 destroyed, 8 damaged
A-20B Boston: 3 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 4 destroyed, 6 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Akagi
CV Shokaku
CV Zuikaku, Bomb hits 1 - actually . . . no.
CV Soryu, Bomb hits 1 - 'fraid not fellas! better luck next time - be seeing you!
BB Kirishima, bomb hits 1 - maybe, I can't tell, but there isn't any damage.

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Day Air attack on TF, near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 39
D3A Val x 110
B5N Kate x 90

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 16
P-40B Tomahawk x 37
P-40E Warhawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 22 destroyed - again, uh . . .no.
D3A Val: 19 destroyed, 13 damaged - what are you guys smoking?
B5N Kate: 16 destroyed, 38 damaged - sure you're not getting confused with you own planes??

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 15 destroyed, 2 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 65 destroyed, 6 damaged - note to self, my pilots are just as bad! Double the actual number of tomahawks in the air were claimed as kills . . .
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied Ships
BB Colorado, Bomb hits 15, Torpedo hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
BB New Mexico, Bomb hits 14, Torpedo hits 5, on fire
DD Hughes

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Day Air attack on TF, near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 50
D3A Val x 101
B5N Kate x 90

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9
P-40B Tomahawk x 7
P-40E Warhawk x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 14 destroyed not even close.
D3A Val: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
B5N Kate: 4 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 12 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 6 destroyed, 1 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Colorado, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage, sunk
BB New Mexico, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage, sunk.

Congratulations! That was a good raid and good plan after all. 2 BBs and 100+ a/c for 44 planes lost... impressive. I think next time you should bring a couple of divisions to Pearl… [;)]

truly speaking I can’t understand why PH defenses did so poorly, no surprise, everything was ready to meet the attackers… and…there must be something behind Japanese luck.

I don't understand. Are the game AARs the same for both sides?