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ORIGINAL: paulderynck

Of what situation did Churchill say: "I ought to have known. My advisers ought to have known and ... I ought to have asked."

Warspite1

Has to be the Singapore/Malaya debacle [:(].

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

I have been going crazy the past couple of days trying to remember what the Germans called their units that got cut off during the Russian winter offensive 1941-1942. Hitler labeled it a tactic and insisted on it being used throughout the long retreat from Stalingrad.

I assume that virtually all of you know the answer to this (even some remote part of my brain does I am sure).

Warspite1

Unlucky B******s? [;)]

Nothing comes immediately to mind - are you thinking of one word or a phrase here? I seem to recall he classed certain key positions as fortresses that had to be held at all costs - only Hitler could authorise any withdrawal.

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

I have been going crazy the past couple of days trying to remember what the Germans called their units that got cut off during the Russian winter offensive 1941-1942. Hitler labeled it a tactic and insisted on it being used throughout the long retreat from Stalingrad.

I assume that virtually all of you know the answer to this (even some remote part of my brain does I am sure).

Warspite1

Unlucky B******s? [;)]

Nothing comes immediately to mind - are you thinking of one word or a phrase here? I seem to recall he classed certain key positions as fortresses that had to be held at all costs - only Hitler could authorise any withdrawal.

One word. The concept was permitting a strongpoint to become isolated with the intention of reestablishing communications with it later (days, weeks, months).

All I can think of is Hedgehog.

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ORIGINAL: paulderynck

Of what situation did Churchill say: "I ought to have known. My advisers ought to have known and ... I ought to have asked."

Warspite1

Has to be the Singapore/Malaya debacle [:(].

Not quite good enough, but extremely warm. I am looking for specific information he did not know.

ORIGINAL: paulderynck

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: paulderynck

Of what situation did Churchill say: "I ought to have known. My advisers ought to have known and ... I ought to have asked."

Warspite1

Has to be the Singapore/Malaya debacle [:(].

Not quite good enough, but extremely warm. I am looking for specific information he did not know.

Warspite1

He was commenting on the defences of the "Impregnable Fortress" and the fact that they were not anywhere near as strong as he believed them to be.

ORIGINAL: flipperwasirish

All I can think of is Hedgehog.

Thanks.[&o][&o]

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ORIGINAL: paulderynck

ORIGINAL: warspite1


Warspite1

Has to be the Singapore/Malaya debacle [:(].

Not quite good enough, but extremely warm. I am looking for specific information he did not know.

Warspite1

He was commenting on the defences of the "Impregnable Fortress" and the fact that they were not anywhere near as strong as he believed them to be.

"I ought to have known. My advisers ought to have known and...I ought to have asked... the possibility of Singapore having no landward defences no more entered my mind than that of a battleship being launched without a bottom."

I think that pretty much sums it up.

That's it.

WIF aircraft counter

More of this plane was built abroad under licence than in the home country

something tells me that it is a minor country plane .... Fokker D.XXI

I can't be bothered to read all 68 pages of this (though I did get through 10 or so) so sorry if these have already been asked.

1. What two US submarines were confirmed to have sunk themselves?

2. What US submarine hit its target with 13 of 13 torpedoes and failed to sink its target?

1. One of them was USS Tang 'cuz I asked that somewhere between page 11 and 67. [;)]

Oops! [:o]  USS Tang is correct though it is the better known of the two because of her famous commander.  Any idea on the other?

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

I have been going crazy the past couple of days trying to remember what the Germans called their units that got cut off during the Russian winter offensive 1941-1942. Hitler labeled it a tactic and insisted on it being used throughout the long retreat from Stalingrad.

I assume that virtually all of you know the answer to this (even some remote part of my brain does I am sure).

Thay were called "Strong points".

Example: Originally Rommel confided that the invasion could occur as early as late-May and he remarked to the assembled garrison at strong point Wn.62 that “this section of the coast resembles the Bay of Salerno in Italy and there fore we should be on special guard against hostile landings!” Allied troops landed in the Bay of Salerno in September 1943. -SB

The 352nd Infantry Division at Omaha Beach


A company, along with C company of the 1st Battalion South Lancs, would attack and eliminate the Strong Point Cod. This consisted of: One 75mm gun, two 50mm anti-tank guns, three 81mm mortars, a 37mm gun and 5 machine gun posts.

East Yorkshire Regiment Living History Group


By late 1944, the German position on both the Eastern and Western Fronts was steadily crumbling. On June 22, 1944 (the third anniversary of the German invasion of Russia), the Russians broke through two strong points in the German line and surrounded 40 divisions known as Army Group Center.

FC136: World War II in Europe (1939-45)


Could you be thinking of Kampfgruppe?

A combat formation of any kind, but most usually to that employed by the German Wehrmacht and its allies during World War II and, to a lesser extent, in World War I.

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

I have been going crazy the past couple of days trying to remember what the Germans called their units that got cut off during the Russian winter offensive 1941-1942. Hitler labeled it a tactic and insisted on it being used throughout the long retreat from Stalingrad.

I assume that virtually all of you know the answer to this (even some remote part of my brain does I am sure).

Thay were called "Strong points".

Example: Originally Rommel confided that the invasion could occur as early as late-May and he remarked to the assembled garrison at strong point Wn.62 that “this section of the coast resembles the Bay of Salerno in Italy and there fore we should be on special guard against hostile landings!” Allied troops landed in the Bay of Salerno in September 1943. -SB

The 352nd Infantry Division at Omaha Beach


A company, along with C company of the 1st Battalion South Lancs, would attack and eliminate the Strong Point Cod. This consisted of: One 75mm gun, two 50mm anti-tank guns, three 81mm mortars, a 37mm gun and 5 machine gun posts.

East Yorkshire Regiment Living History Group


By late 1944, the German position on both the Eastern and Western Fronts was steadily crumbling. On June 22, 1944 (the third anniversary of the German invasion of Russia), the Russians broke through two strong points in the German line and surrounded 40 divisions known as Army Group Center.

FC136: World War II in Europe (1939-45)


Could you be thinking of Kampfgruppe?

A combat formation of any kind, but most usually to that employed by the German Wehrmacht and its allies during World War II and, to a lesser extent, in World War I.

Hedgehog was the term I was trying to remember.

This is for the AI Opponenet nomenclature.

When contesting a Land Region, hex control and the presence of friendly and enemy units can be assessed as:

1 - Theirs: enemy controls all hexes in the LR.
2 - Cleanup: no enemy units present in the LR but some hexes are enemy controlled.
3 - Consolidate: isolated enemy units present in the LR.
4 - Eliminate: enemy has a bridgehead in the LR.
5 - Conflict: both sides have units in the LR.
6 - Bridgehead: 'we' have a bridgehead in the LR.
7 - Hedgehog: 'we' have isolated units in the LR.
8 - Partisans: 'we' have no units present, but still control some hexes.
9 - Ours: we control all hexes in the LR.

It's possible that there might be a mix of some of these. For instance, in advancing into Eastern Poland, there could be a mix or 2/3/4.

There is also the relationship of adjacent LRs to take into consideration. At the start of the war, Germany would have a status of Ours in Germany and Theirs in Poland.

But for now, I just wanted to establish a quasi scale for the AIO tactical decision making.

[I apologize for this being off-topic. If you want to continue this discussion, please use one of the thread on the AIO, or start a new thread.]

Not the Fokker michaelbaldur.

-More of this plane was built abroad under licence than in the home country
- Conceived in 1937, first prototype was in 1939, but production didn't begin until 1943.

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ORIGINAL: flipperwasirish

All I can think of is Hedgehog.

Thanks.[&o][&o]

You are welcome.

ORIGINAL: ezz

Not the Fokker michaelbaldur.

-More of this plane was built abroad under licence than in the home country
- Conceived in 1937, first prototype was in 1939, but production didn't begin until 1943.

Warspite1

ezz, can I ask that you repeat all the clues when you add a new one in case, as has happened here, there is a big gap between the clues? Thanks.

I am a planes in flames counter.

- More of this plane was built abroad under licence than in the home country
- Conceived in 1937, first prototype was in 1939, but production didn't begin until 1943.
- Axis aircraft
- Has night fighter designation on the counter but was never intended as such.