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http://archive.defensenews.com/article/ ... pabilities

"The MDC said at the time that the new BAE Systems Sampson radar fitted to the Type 45s would be used in detecting and tracking ballistic targets during the MDA tests.

The radar is part of the Sea Viper anti-air missile system, which includes the MBDA-developed Aster 30 weapon.

Successful satellite tracking experiments involving Sampson have already been conducted."

Considering that this testing took place without the ships having new hardware added I think its safe to assume that the capability is added through software. The Thales website seems to back this up "Additional capabilities can be introduced during lifetime according to customer needs. This makes the radar future proof in case of evolving requirements."


https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwid ... mart-l-ewc

The T45 in game is completely blind to even short range ballistic missiles such as SCUD when placed within a few miles of both the launch site and target - this seems rather unrealistic regardless of whether S1850M has its ballistic missile box checked or not. I was also surprised that at 1.2nm from the launch area I didn't even get a contrail sighting.

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Hi, I need following units for several scenarios I'm currently working on and other stuff I'm thinking of.

J-11BH (Navalised J-11B)

Most likely the exact same aircraft as the J-11B, just in lighter grey PLANAF colours. The J-11BH was first spotted in 2010, however, the exact date of IOC remains unkown (at least to me...). According to Scramble, the first J-11BHs/BSHs arrived at Lingshui on Hainan in 2013.

http://www.globalmil.com/Military/News/ ... 1/236.html
http://www.scramble.nl/orbats/china/navy


Type 073A Yunshu

http://www.haijun360.com/news/ZXDLJ/201 ... 2G0ED.html
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/073A%E5%9 ... 6%E8%88%B0


Type 815G Dongdiao

Upgraded version of #2565 - Type XXX [851 Dongdiao] with slightly increased dimensions and new armament.

http://www.haijun360.com/news/dzZCC/201 ... KJ8H5.html
http://military.china.com/important/111 ... 3_all.html
http://china-defense.blogspot.de/2014/0 ... ronic.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_815_spy_ship


Type 903A Fuchi

http://www.haijun360.com/news/BGJ/2012/ ... H8E0F.html
http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subc ... 0610000066
http://www.janes.com/article/52183/chin ... -type-903a


Type 081A Wochi

Low priority to me. Just wanted to point out that there is a difference in size and armament compared to #2204 - Type 081 Wochi.

http://www.haijun360.com/news/SLJ/2011/ ... DDJ5H.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_081_ ... ure_vessel


30mm China H/PJ-14

This is a single-barreled Remote Weapon Station in use aboard almost every ship I requested above.

http://www.haijun360.com/news/JFP/2012/ ... K283K.html


These units are kind of close to my heart. I'd really appreciate if they make it into the DB.

Cheers!

Supreme

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It would be cool, if the Concorde would be implemented in Command.

ORIGINAL: Thomas86665

It would be cool, if the Concorde would be implemented in Command.

Is this decoy dispenser in the DB? [:D]

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ORIGINAL: Thomas86665

It would be cool, if the Concorde would be implemented in Command.

(from Wikipedia)

Role Supersonic airliner
National origin United Kingdom and France
Manufacturer BAC (later BAe and BAE Systems)
Sud Aviation (later A¨¦rospatiale and EADS)
First flight 2 March 1969
Introduction 21 January 1976
Retired 26 November 2003
Status Retired from service
Primary users British Airways
Air France
See Operators below for others
Produced 1965¨C1979
Number built 20


Specifications

Data from Wall Street Journal,[180] The Concorde Story,[292] The International Directory of Civil Aircraft,[61] Richard Seamen aircraft museum[293]

General characteristics

Crew: 3 (2 pilots and 1 flight engineer)
Capacity: 92¨C120 passengers
(128 in high-density layout)[N 9]
Length: 202 ft 4 in (61.66 m)
Wingspan: 84 ft 0 in (25.6 m)
Height: 40 ft 0 in (12.2 m)
Fuselage internal length: 129 ft 0 in (39.32 m)
Fuselage width: maximum of 9 ft 5 in (2.87 m) external 8 ft 7 in (2.62 m) internal
Fuselage height: maximum of 10 ft 10 in (3.30 m) external 6 ft 5 in (1.96 m) internal)
Wing area: 3,856 ft2 (358.25 m2)
Empty weight: 173,500 lb (78,700 kg)
Useful load: 245,000 lb (111,130 kg)
Powerplant: 4 ¡Á Rolls-Royce/SNECMA Olympus 593 Mk 610 Afterburning turbojets
Dry thrust: 32,000 lbf (140 kN) each
Thrust with afterburner: 38,050 lbf (169 kN) each
Maximum fuel load: 210,940 lb (95,680 kg)
Maximum taxiing weight: 412,000 lb (187,000 kg)

Performance

Maximum speed: Mach 2.04 (¡Ö1,354 mph, 2,179 km/h, 1,176 knots) at cruise altitude
Cruise speed: Mach 2.02 (¡Ö1,340 mph, 2,158 km/h, 1,164 knots) at cruise altitude
Range: 3,900 nmi (4,488.04 mi, 7,222.8 km)
Service ceiling: 60,000 ft (18,300 m)
Rate of climb: 5,000 ft/min (25.41 m/s)
lift-to-drag: Low speed¨C 3.94, Approach¨C 4.35, 250 kn, 10,000 ft¨C 9.27, Mach 0.94¨C 11.47, Mach 2.04¨C 7.14
Fuel consumption: 46.85 lb/mi (13.2 kg/km) operating for maximum range
Thrust/weight: 0.373
Maximum nose tip temperature: 260 ¡ãF (127 ¡ãC)
Runway requirement (with maximum load): 3,600 m (11,800 ft)[294]

Avionics

EKCO E390/564 weather radar[295]

What do you need? Information on both of these types is pretty limited, but I'll see what I can find.

ORIGINAL: emsoy

Thanks! Added except the below two that I need more info on:

ORIGINAL: Mgellis

2 Ex-SOVIET "POLUCHAT I" CLASS (COASTAL PATROL CRAFT)

Operational dates: 1980-1992
Displacement, tons: 70 standard, 100 full load
Dimensions: 29.6 m. x 5.8 m. x 1.5 m.
Mam machinery: 2 M50 diesels, 2400 hp, 2 shafts
Speed, knots: 20
Range, miles: 1500 at 10 knots
Complement: 15
Guns: 2 x 14.5 mm MGs
Radars: Navigation, Spin Trough, I band


Macaé class (these statistics are for the ones being built for Brazil, but I'm assuming there are few if any differences in the ones being built for Angola)

Operational dates: 2017- (I'm guessing here)
Type: Offshore Patrol Vessel
Displacement: 500 tons
Length: 55.6 meters
Beam: 9.3 meters
Draught: 2.5 meters
Propulsion: 2 × MTU 16V 4000 M90
Speed: 21 knots
Range: 2,500 nm at 15 knots
Complement: 35
Sensors and processing systems: Sperry Marine VisionMaster FT Integrated Bridge Navigation System with FT250 X band and S band radars
Guns: 1 x BAE 40mm MK2 gun; 2 × GAM B01 20mm

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INDIA (Navy)

P 50 Sukanya (PSOH)

Operational dates: 1989-present
Pennant numbers: P 50 Sukanya; P 51 Subhadra; P 52 Suvarna; P 53 Savitri; P 55 Sharada; P 56 Sujata

(Note: According to Wikipedia, P 54 Sarayu sold to Sri Lanka Navy in 2000 as SLNS Sayura; “She was recently equipped with Yingi YJ-82 anti-ship missiles and surface to air missiles. Currently she serves as the flagship of the Sri Lanka Navy and obtained several remarkable naval victories against the naval branch (Sea Tigers) of the Tamil Tiger rebels.” So that’s a separate class; I’ll try to track down the data for her later.)

Displacement: 1890 tons full load
Dimensions: 101.1 m x 11.5 m. x 4.4 m.
Main machinery: 2 SEMT-Pielstick 16 PA6 V 280 diesels; 12800 hp(m) (9.41 MW) sustained; 2 shafts
Speed: 21 knots
Range: 5,800 naut. miles at 15 knots
Complement: 140 (15 officers)
Guns: 1 x Bofors 40mm/60; 4 x 12.7mm MGs (Wikipedia says 2 x 12.7 MGs, maybe they mean two twin mounts? they look like they’re on the stern, below the helicopter pad, but it’s hard to tell from the pictures I was able to find; the 40mm gun appears to be on the bow)
A/S mortar: 4 x RBU 250 16-tubed trainable launchers; two launchers fitted in forward section
Radars: Surface search: Racal Decca 2459; I-band
Navigation: Bharat 1245; I-band
Helicopters: 1 Chetak (and appears from the pictures to have a hanger as well as a landing pad)

Wikipedia says:

P51 added: 1 Dhanush ballistic missile (see http://defense-update.com/20121006_paki ... siles.html for details)

P55 added: 2 × 25 mm, 80-cal anti-aircraft guns

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Can you add the Indian Saryu class patrol vessel?

Displacement: 2300[1] ton
Length: 105 metres (344 ft)
Beam: 12.9 metres (42 ft)
Draught: 3.6 metres (12 ft)
Propulsion: 2 x 7790 kW engines
Speed: 25 knots (46 km/h)
Range: 6,000 nautical miles (11,000 km) at 16 knots (30 km/h)
Complement: 8 Officers and 102 Sailors
Armament: 1 x 76 mm Oto melara gun with FCS, 2 x AK-630 CIWS, 6x Indian decoy,
Sensors: Sanket Mk III Electronic Support Measure, not sure about radar but possibly 1 × Racal Decca 2459 search radar,
1 BEL 1245 navigation radar,

Hanger and helo pad

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saryu-c ... rol_vessel
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/INS_Saryu_(P54)
http://www.janes.com/article/42802/indi ... -class-opv

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The country NATO runs 3 C-17 Globemaster III. It is called NATO Strategic Airlift Capability.

In-service date?

I second the China type 55 request.

Also is it possible to add to c-803 and yj-12 loadouts to the J-20 and J-31. I know they have not yet been on these aircraft but it seems possible and all the loadouts for these are hypothetical?

Also is it possible to make the J-31 carrier capable or add an additional J-31 carrier capable entry.

One more thing. If the F-35 agility is ever changed I suggest the J-31 is also changed.

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I know you guys are adding the YJ-100 AShM for the H-6 in v440, and since we're adding the Type 055 I found multiple sources claiming that YJ-100 AShM can also be put onto the Type 055.

From : http://missilethreat.com/chinas-anti-sh ... -revealed/

"The type-055 destroyer will be used as one of the largest surface combat vessels, apart from the aircraft carrier, and must be a basic carrier of oversized large-scale missiles. The destroyer, on its front end and rear end respectively mounted with 64 vertical launching systems, can not only carry large-size anti-ship missiles like the ?gYJ-100??, but can also carry missiles for different purposes, including anti-submarine and air-defense missiles."

"In addition, the type-055 guided missile destroyer will be equipped with the ?gYJ-100?? to promote its battle strength."

http://www.janes.com/article/48738/chin ... -destroyer

"A military analyst, Li Li, has told Chinese state television that the new People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) Type 055 destroyer will be equipped with 128 vertically launched missiles arranged in two grids of 64 cells, one forward and one aft. Li's interview with China Central Television (CCTV) was reported by a number of Chinese online media outlets, including the semi-official PLA Daily. Li also said the Type 055 would be capable of firing the YJ-100 long-range anti-ship cruise missile from these cells, as well as anti-submarine and air-defence missiles."

http://www.deagel.com/Anti-Ship-Missile ... 39002.aspx

"The People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) YJ-100 is a long-range, subsonic, anti-ship cruise missile designed to be delivered by Type 055 class destroyers starting in 2020. It is a derivative of the YJ-100 air-launched anti-ship missile similar to the United States Tomahawk land attack cruise missile."

Emsoy, excuse my obtrusion but how are the chances this will be included in the next Update/s??

ORIGINAL: Supreme 2.0

Some corrections for the Chinese AGI #2565 - Type XXX [851 Dongdiao].

To start, the DB name should be changed to Type 815 [851 Dongdiao]. (In case this matters, the ship was commissioned as Dongdiao 232.)

Regarding its armament, there's also something to do. The ship already is equipped with two 25mm/60 Twin AAA guns which is right. Ingame, the AAAs are placed facing forward but the ship actually carries those on top of the aft hangar looking in the opposite direction. On the forward deck, there should be a single Twin-barreled 37mm canon, possibly the 37mm/63 Type 76 Twin DP.

Last, when it comes to the aircraft facilities, I noticed two things: First, in reality the ship is equipped with a hangar as opposed to the game. Second, Looking at some pictures of those aircraft facilities, I doubt that neither the flightdeck nor the hangar is big enough to host large aircraft.



http://www.haijun360.com/news/dzZCC/201 ... 456AK.html
http://image.tuku.china.com/tuku.milita ... 437384.jpg
http://www.haijun360.com/china/851/images/4.jpg

Supreme

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ORIGINAL: emsoy

In-service date?

Well, looks like I twisted my facts here...
The last of three aircraft was delivered in October 2009 and in 2010 the aircraft were used in Haiti and Pakistan. So I guess IOC was declared sometime between late 2009 and early 2010. According to this factsheet, FOC of the whole unit at Papa Air Base was declared in late 2012. Couldn't come up with a better source yet. Hope this helps!

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/or ... e77e0a.jpg

(Edit: Corrected facts)

ORIGINAL: Primarchx

ORIGINAL: Thomas86665

It would be cool, if the Concorde would be implemented in Command.

Is this decoy dispenser in the DB? [:D]

Added. Can only be fired when aircraft is inverted.

Already added, but forgot to mark the post as such [8D]

Thanks for the heads-up.

ORIGINAL: Supreme 2.0

Emsoy, excuse my obtrusion but how are the chances this will be included in the next Update/s??

ORIGINAL: Supreme 2.0

Some corrections for the Chinese AGI #2565 - Type XXX [851 Dongdiao].

To start, the DB name should be changed to Type 815 [851 Dongdiao]. (In case this matters, the ship was commissioned as Dongdiao 232.)

Regarding its armament, there's also something to do. The ship already is equipped with two 25mm/60 Twin AAA guns which is right. Ingame, the AAAs are placed facing forward but the ship actually carries those on top of the aft hangar looking in the opposite direction. On the forward deck, there should be a single Twin-barreled 37mm canon, possibly the 37mm/63 Type 76 Twin DP.

Last, when it comes to the aircraft facilities, I noticed two things: First, in reality the ship is equipped with a hangar as opposed to the game. Second, Looking at some pictures of those aircraft facilities, I doubt that neither the flightdeck nor the hangar is big enough to host large aircraft.



http://www.haijun360.com/news/dzZCC/201 ... 456AK.html
http://image.tuku.china.com/tuku.milita ... 437384.jpg
http://www.haijun360.com/china/851/images/4.jpg

Supreme

ORIGINAL: orca

I second the China type 55 request.

Also is it possible to add to c-803 and yj-12 loadouts to the J-20 and J-31. I know they have not yet been on these aircraft but it seems possible and all the loadouts for these are hypothetical?

Also is it possible to make the J-31 carrier capable or add an additional J-31 carrier capable entry.

One more thing. If the F-35 agility is ever changed I suggest the J-31 is also changed.

Already added Type 055 for v440 [8D]

YJ-12 etc on J-20/J-31... hmmm lemme think about it.

Are there plans for a carrier version of J-31? Sources?

J-31 would be far more maneouverable than F-35? So Agility should be 5th Gen?

Photos etc would be great. Or we can just forget about them and not waste our time & energ. No-one ever use them in a scenario anyway [:D]

ORIGINAL: Mgellis


What do you need? Information on both of these types is pretty limited, but I'll see what I can find.

ORIGINAL: emsoy

Thanks! Added except the below two that I need more info on:

ORIGINAL: Mgellis

2 Ex-SOVIET "POLUCHAT I" CLASS (COASTAL PATROL CRAFT)

Operational dates: 1980-1992
Displacement, tons: 70 standard, 100 full load
Dimensions: 29.6 m. x 5.8 m. x 1.5 m.
Mam machinery: 2 M50 diesels, 2400 hp, 2 shafts
Speed, knots: 20
Range, miles: 1500 at 10 knots
Complement: 15
Guns: 2 x 14.5 mm MGs
Radars: Navigation, Spin Trough, I band


Macaé class (these statistics are for the ones being built for Brazil, but I'm assuming there are few if any differences in the ones being built for Angola)

Operational dates: 2017- (I'm guessing here)
Type: Offshore Patrol Vessel
Displacement: 500 tons
Length: 55.6 meters
Beam: 9.3 meters
Draught: 2.5 meters
Propulsion: 2 × MTU 16V 4000 M90
Speed: 21 knots
Range: 2,500 nm at 15 knots
Complement: 35
Sensors and processing systems: Sperry Marine VisionMaster FT Integrated Bridge Navigation System with FT250 X band and S band radars
Guns: 1 x BAE 40mm MK2 gun; 2 × GAM B01 20mm

Added the ships but the Dhanush system is not operational. Its for testing only.

ORIGINAL: Mgellis

INDIA (Navy)

P 50 Sukanya (PSOH)

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ORIGINAL: emsoy

Photos etc would be great. Or we can just forget about them and not waste our time & energ. No-one ever use them in a scenario anyway [:D]

Challenge accepted! [:)]

Well, at least for the Macae-class. Since it looks like that will be the main vessel of the Angolan navy for several years (c. 2020-2030) it may well get some use, especially against similar vessels from other African nations (not South African frigates...against those it would simply be outclassed).

The only image I could find that is probably available for use is...

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cate ... p,_2009%29

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPa_Maca% ... -70%29.jpg



It says, on https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... -70%29.jpg, "The copyright holder of this file, Navy of Brazil, allows anyone to use it for any purpose, provided that the copyright holder is properly attributed. Redistribution, derivative work, commercial use, and all other use is permitted....Attribution: Navy of Brazil."

The page listed below has several images, but I am not sure they can be used in the public domain (they're in Portuguese, so I could only read the page with Google Translate, and I'm not sure it says anywhere whether the images are free to use or not).

http://www.naviosbrasileiros.com.br/ngb ... /M079.html

In this last image below, it looks like the vessel has a couple of RHIBs. I'm not sure of the size, though. 7-meter?

http://www.naviosbrasileiros.com.br/ngb ... 9-f013.jpg