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Following up on the discussion above. Concerns were raised that a few of my recent opponents didn't realize their games were being counted toward the ELO rankings. Having looked into it, that's fair: I set those games up under "ELO match rules," but it's clear not everyone read that as a tracked ELO match and I should have been explicit. That's on me, not on them.

I've exchanged PMs with firsteds and I fully support how he's handling the rankings. Going forward I'll keep a clear, screenshotted confirmation that an opponent knows the game counts before I post any result, so there's no ambiguity for anyone.

Agree with Harry’s post and I'd rather spend my time on the map than in threads like this one. Looking forward to getting back to the game.

The next rankings will come out around September 1. Remember to post any results here.

Regarding the recent issue, TH11 will be starting again from scratch and all his prior games will be scratched from the rankings. Players may see some small changes as a result of this.

I've exchanged PMs with firsteds and I fully support how he's handling the rankings. Going forward I'll keep a clear, screenshotted confirmation that an opponent knows the game counts before I post any result, so there's no ambiguity for anyone.

This is good to read. But why are you averse to posting open challenges on the Forum like the rest of us? You'll get a committed opponent who knows the ELO rules.

This was the original pitch for ELO games:

ELO players are part of a community who are committed to playing the game through to a conclusion, typically playing at least a turn a day, in a spirit of good sportsmanship.

It would be great if you were to embrace that please.

I've exchanged PMs with firsteds and I fully support how he's handling the rankings. Going forward I'll keep a clear, screenshotted confirmation that an opponent knows the game counts before I post any result, so there's no ambiguity for anyone.

This is good to read. But why are you averse to posting open challenges on the Forum like the rest of us? You'll get a committed opponent who knows the ELO rules.

This was the original pitch for ELO games:

ELO players are part of a community who are committed to playing the game through to a conclusion, typically playing at least a turn a day, in a spirit of good sportsmanship.

It would be great if you were to embrace that please.

If we want to grow the community long term, then we must develop trust with non=ELO gamers, starting with making sure they are aware of the forum (and the resources available - AARs, War Room) and rating system. Then they can make a more thoughtful decision on how to engage with the community.

I do the above by getting them to Matrix Games and then PMing info and links, trying to make them feel comfortable with everything before jumping into the shark infested waters. Like everything, first impressions matter. Cheap wins should be avoided, more durable engagement promoted.

gronivaure (Allies) [WIN] vs. Old_Shane (Axis) [LOSS]
Game ends December 1944 with allies décisive victory.

Germany not go in NA and make all in on Russia. The Wehrmacht failed to secure its breakthroughs on the left bank of the Don and could not reach the Caucasus oil fields. Japan gave China a hard time; the Chinese were forced back again and again but avoided conquest thanks to support from Indian ground forces and US aircraft.
The outcome remained undecided until 1943. Thanks to Old_Shane for a great game.

New ELO games started:

tedstriker19 (Axis) vs General23n8 (Allies).
tedstriker19 (Axis) vs JFB00 (Allies).

Tigertony (Allies) [WIN] vs. aquavita (Axis) [LOSS]
Berlin occupied and Germany surrendered March 1944. Italy surrendered December 1943. Japan morale down to 21% and aquavita resigned.

My thanks to aquavita for my first ELO game and for playing regularly until Germany was overrun.

^^^

Rematch agreed with the same sides.

gronivaure (Allies) [WIN] vs. Aquavita (Axis) [LOSS]
Game ends July 1944 with allied décisive victory.

Following Italy's surrender and the conquest of Berlin, Japan also surrendered in July 1944, its morale having reach 0.
Thanks for the game Aquavita.

Pekkavilamoura wrote: Sat May 16, 2026 3:48 pm New ELO started:
Zarevic (Axis) vs. Pekkavilamoura (Allies).
'New standard' ELO rules.

ELO ended:
Result: Pekkavilamoura (Allies) LOSER v Zarevic (Axis) WINNER.

Excellent and exciting game lasting till 1946.
Very close and not decided untill final turns as Allied conserved a big economic advantage despite Axis advantage in militar and moral aspects...

Txs to Pekka for the game.

rematch started:

Zarevic (Allies) Vs Pekkavilamoura (Axis).

New Standard ELO RULES.

ELO rankings up to end of August. Comments and corrections welcome.

New ELO match started:

Feinder(Allies) vs. Aquavita(Axis)
The battle(s) of the Bottom Dwellers!

1. No diplo on Majors.
2. No Barbarossa before 1941.
3. No diplo on Bulgaria.
4. No Allied DoW on Japan until US is at 100% mobilization
5. No Italian navy outside Med before DoW (transports allowed).
6. No using Garrison or Neutral transports as scouts
7. No XP farming
8. No German navy blocking of the Russian navy spawn points
9. Amphibious research cap of 4

New ELO match started:

hasmat_slith (Axis) vs. gronivaure (Allies)
Good luck!

1. No diplo on Majors.
2. No Barbarossa before 1941.
3. No diplo on Bulgaria.
4. No Allied DoW on Japan until US is at 100% mobilization
5. No Italian navy outside Med before DoW (transports allowed).
6. No using Garrison or Neutral transports as scouts
7. No XP farming
8. No German navy blocking of the Russian navy spawn points
9. Amphibious research cap of 4

Wow, I forget about the Covid-scam, and how much I loved playing this game and the SC-Civil War game! Been away for year? Been hanging with my Lady. Been kicking ass with stocks, life, and being a Legend. I see there's some new ELO rankings. It's a shame, I'm not gaming. I should grab my sack, spend some winnings on a new computer for SC-WaW.

Hope your rolls and heroes shine!!!!

Good to hear you are doing well Elvis.
Yes a lot of players dropped out and no one could do the ladder so they started a simplified version. Would be good to see you playing again.

ELO game ends:

Pekkavilamoura (Axis) Lost vs hasmat_slith (Allies) Win - Axis surrenders late 1944 after all capitals taken. Strangely, IMO, it was Turkey's entry into the war on Axis side that turned things decidedly Allies as it spread the Germans along a 3rd front and allowed the Brits/Commowealth troops to join the German attrit and saved me the embarrassment of having to use (or lose) my navy . Fun game as always with Herr Pekka.

New ELO match started:

IIo4tu (Axis) vs. gronivaure (Allies)
Good luck!

1. No diplo on Majors.
2. No Barbarossa before 1941.
3. No diplo on Bulgaria.
4. No Allied DoW on Japan until US is at 100% mobilization
5. No Italian navy outside Med before DoW (transports allowed).
6. No using Garrison or Neutral transports as scouts
7. No XP farming
8. No German navy blocking of the Russian navy spawn points
9. Amphibious research cap of 4

ELO ended:
Result: Pekkavilamoura (Axis) LOSER v gronivaure (Allies) WINNER.

Big game where Russia loose Stalingrad, Moscow, Koubyshev, Perm, Bakou and Vladivostoc. Whermacht was stopped in south of Persia. Finland fall and the front of Leningrad was safe all the game. But the price for taking Finland was a light defense in south where the panzer were clocked speeding several times.
Germany was still in Moscou and in front of Perm when Berlin was taken by GB and USA.
Japan surrender in february 1945.

Txs to Pekka for the game.

gronivaure wrote: Sun Sep 06, 2026 8:21 am ELO ended:
Result: Pekkavilamoura (Axis) LOSER v gronivaure (Allies) WINNER.

Big game where Russia loose Stalingrad, Moscow, Koubyshev, Perm, Bakou and Vladivostoc. Whermacht was stopped in south of Persia. Finland fall and the front of Leningrad was safe all the game. But the price for taking Finland was a light defense in south where the panzer were clocked speeding several times.
Germany was still in Moscou and in front of Perm when Berlin was taken by GB and USA.
Japan surrender in february 1945.

Txs to Pekka for the game.

Yes, great game! I was rubbing my hands after having taken all Russian capitals thinking now we have it but NO, obviously hadn't killed enough units, so Russia continued and when Perm was retaken everything turned against the Axis.