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ORIGINAL: cookie monster

Time to retreat from the salient in South Western Front me thinks.

BTW What happened to the defenders of Odessa? Did they auto ROUT outta the port or surrender?

ORIGINAL: cookie monster

Only counter is to leave a retreat hex for the defeated defenders to retreat to, to be then isolated for the next turns surrender battle.

Sorry for the spam,but I think it's an important concept for this game.

ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus

Maybe I'll be bringing some cavalry divisions. The orders? Perhaps create a big mess on his rear?

ORIGINAL: starbuck310

Dont retreat counter attack as you suggest. He's over extended and out of railway. If you cavalry attack swings south, not north and can take one of the small ports on the cost you will be supply and have isolated his allies who, after all are pretty weak even when in supply. Echelon some reserves to exploit and you will roll him up.

ORIGINAL: randallw

Killing panzer divisions will always hurt; might as well do it after they've been surrounded.  Killing them by shattering is a hard goal.

ORIGINAL: starbuck310

Yes, south towards supply at ports. Your operational objective is the destruction of the axis allied units. The tactical level objective is to seize the supply ports which will bring about a catastrophic supply loss for German allies. From which you will gain your operational objective. The Germans will be forced to call off attacks to the north to restore the situation which gives you a tactical pause before going over to the attack in the centre. This will start to overload the German commander and force a mistake which you can exploit thus gaining the initiative. I echelon my reserves for Soviet attacks. Send in one wave with 2 or 3 more behind it. Soviet tactic to maintain attack without having to stop to replenish units. Works with Germans too

Soviets developed and masterd the art of the deep battle. The destruction of Army group Centre is a good example. The first-echelon, fights the break in battle at the tactical level. 2nd echelon develops the breakthrough and the 3rd echelon would exploit to deep operational objectives. Holding groups on both flanks tie down enemy counter attacks and forces by mobile or area defence. Once the main attack gained momentum the echelons merged to support the operational or depth attack. In the game you can, like for real, conduct a forward passage of lines where a fresh unit overtakes the lead ones and continue the attack. So defeating your enemy by acting quicker than he can react.

ORIGINAL: cookie monster

For your low CV units,yes it will be bloody.

I reckon though the final adjusted CV's for the isolated units will be around 0-20 CV.

If you can match that with deliberate attacks then you'll be fine.