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ORIGINAL: Q-Ball

Nice job; Leningrad is yours. It's only a matter of time.

With only a Lvl-2 fort, you should be able to clear Ostinovets next turn. Make sure you have a Mobile unit, though, right on the Neva behind your infantry, so you have a unit with enough MPs to actually reach the hex after your Infantry clears it.

If you do that, all forces in that area should be isolated at the start of turn 17, giving you the last turn of clear to clean it all up, and enough time to get the Finns set-up along the Volkhov, which looks like his final defense line.

His fatal error was not building tall enough forts on those two hexes, and parking 3 strong units there.

Thanks Q-Ball. I think I'm ready to finish it off in the next 2 turns.

Well, at least link-up and activate the Finns, I hope. He may still have units in there, otherwise.

NW Leningrad awaits.

Turn 15

AGN:

After R&R last turn, elements of Fourth Panzer stream into and through VL. Unfortunately, they don't exploit very far at all. Right now, the way to Kalinin is clear. Recon flights show no depth here, which is not surprising. May slice further south to Rzhev, it depends on the Soviet response.

I have been waiting a long time for this, but wasn't sure if I would need to bulldoze in Leningrad with Fourth Panzer.
I feel OK up there, so they are committed now.

And it's not a decent width of breakthrough, but it's all I've got infantry wide to commit for now. It will have to do.

The Soviets response will be interesting.

I have also formed a "mobile reserve" which will look out for the Cav. That remains hidden from his recon, I hope.

I have flown air resupply to these units. They should come back with decent MP's, as the HQ and the units are within range of the railhead.

Turn 15:

Prip Pocket:

2 Soviets remain alive in the Prip Pocket. Soviets slowly crawl to my supply line that runs across north edge of Prip and down to Gomel.

I've not been able to kill them yet. But it remains interesting, as they have not surrendered yet.

I will finish the roundup shortly.

My last ditch defensive line peeks out from the north along the Dnepr.

Turn 15

AGC:

Well, recon shows an amazing thickening of units before Moscow.[;)] And, I fear Soviets so close to Smolensk, as they can drop down onto my rail lines quite easily.

So, Ninth Army hits the north wall, just to the south of Rzhev. A jhole is opened, and elements of Third Panzer stream through, looping back onto and meeting up with Fourth Panzer near VL, and capturing Rzhev.

The northern pincher is forming, but I don't feel to far out of balance, as I remain close to the bulk of Ninth Army. I am probably to far away to grab Moscow before mud, maybe blizzard.

Soviets don't appear to be well dug in up here, either.

XXXX Panzer was well fueled, and instead of driving Fourth Panzer to Rzhev next turn to take it, we grabbed it this turn, hehe.

AGC:

Turn 15:

MP's are low as Second Panzer is crowded into a Soviet vice. No infantry close by.

Fourth Army continues leap-frogging into the breach, taking positions from Ninth Army, as they moved north.

The Panzers are primed for a dash.

With the lateness of the season, probably just trying to pocket something, rather than make it to Moscow might be the better option.

My approach is not guaranteed to produce anything other than failure.  I end up going down in flames, but at least I fight all the way.  I suspect that the last few turns have been more enjoyable with you on the offense and holding the initiative [:)]
 
For me, I really want my opponant to open their turn in summer of 1941 with a sense of dread.  "What in the hell has he done now?" should be their thought. As this is still just 1.03 I expect to get kicked around in winter, but that is that.  Dictating the pace as you have done is what the game for the Germans is really about.
 
I expect next time your play will be even more fierce.

Turn 15

AGS:

Well, not enough infantry got onto the line, so no general breakthrough. First Panzer moves north and south of a grouping of Soviets. Perhaps we will move them out of these dugin positions, at least.

ORIGINAL: PeeDeeAitch

My approach is not guaranteed to produce anything other than failure.  I end up going down in flames, but at least I fight all the way.  I suspect that the last few turns have been more enjoyable with you on the offense and holding the initiative [:)]

For me, I really want my opponant to open their turn in summer of 1941 with a sense of dread.  "What in the hell has he done now?" should be their thought. As this is still just 1.03 I expect to get kicked around in winter, but that is that.  Dictating the pace as you have done is what the game for the Germans is really about.

I expect next time your play will be even more fierce.

When I line up infantry and can pound a nice hole, a nice breakthrough results. Like the breakthrough that allowed me to drop on Kiev in turn 8 (pictured) or the recent breakthroughs in AGC.

When I can't get the infantry to the point in sufficient mass, a limited breakthrough results, at most. And Oleg slips away.

Missing the AGS pocket turn 1 hurt badly, and continues to in AGS. This last push in AGS is more of the same, not enough infantry on the point, but it's consolidating. Just in time for him to slip away, yet again. The die was cast somewhat with the missed pocket back on turn 1.

This whole game has been a learning experience for me. And I've improved, I believe. I have no doubt a player better than I could pick at every turn and point out faults. Like at Pskov turn 3. Failed attack, and he then thickened up somewhat. And we've been slugging it out since there.

I've been pretty clear in speaking of my own timid play, even as I try to correct it. With an live player on the field instead of AI, easier said than done.

So, I generally agree with you, but I've always tried to be on the offense.[:)] The field is littered with failed attacks as I learned to put together an offense as this game requires. I hope to present a more formidable defense from what I've learned, in the coming turns.

The game has 2 sides, and I suspect we are both learning the game. I know I am.

I wish Oleg would just sit still and let me pocket him. His "great withdrawal" is testimony that he won't.[:)]

The game has been enjoyable, even as I was learning.[:)]

Turns like that - your dash to Kiev is a great example - is what really makes this fun for the Axis player.  It is so easy to get bogged down, look at so many of the AARs.  The goal should be to keep the Soviets on their heels turn after turn.  What you did was even tougher, in the south you lost the initiative then regained it - that is a feat in and of itself.

ORIGINAL: PeeDeeAitch

Turns like that - your dash to Kiev is a great example - is what really makes this fun for the Axis player.  It is so easy to get bogged down, look at so many of the AARs.  The goal should be to keep the Soviets on their heels turn after turn.  What you did was even tougher, in the south you lost the initiative then regained it - that is a feat in and of itself.

I appreciate that. And it wasn't easy.[:)] He had done a good job withdrawingriver to river, and I finally caught up to him well enough to smack a hole.

Generally, my windup to the plate is slow, a I try to minimize risks. Still working on that.

Ultimately though, I might be a better Soviet player, as I tend to slide to the side of brute force.[:)]

Hey, never underestimate the power of "Brute Force and Ignorance"(tm) to overcome any situation.  [:)]

ORIGINAL: PeeDeeAitch

Hey, never underestimate the power of "Brute Force and Ignorance"(tm) to overcome any situation.  [:)]

That used to describe my tennis game.[;)]

What is it now? Brute Ignorance and Force? [:'(]

ORIGINAL: Mynok


What is it now? Brute Ignorance and Force? [:'(]

I don't have a tennis game, anymore. Fell off a roof, and that was the end of that.[:)]

Why were you playing tennis on a roof?

ORIGINAL: Mynok


Why were you playing tennis on a roof?

That must have been the "I" part of B.F. and I.

LoL.
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Waiting on Oleg's turn.

This would have been awesome to pay on though:

You think its hard playing tennis on a roof try croquet.

Croquet?

Try playing American football on a shed roof, now that is hardcore

Hi all,

"Senno", Oleg posted in his AAR that you plan to resign?!?! [&:]


IMHO that would not be good idea - the process of learning is the process of making mistakes and trying to fix them by continuing to play!

Thus I strongly encourage you to continue (even though you think you might be in big trouble in blizzard and suffer greatly) because this is the best way you learn new things!!!


Leo "Apollo11"