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15 December 1944

Rahaeng
Good day. No DA only bombardment. Some units will move out from base tomorrow.
Bad news is that i accidentally reset movement of one if IDs.[:(]
For sure on foot or after enemy attack they will retreat[8|]

I now sure that i will be able to rescue no less than half of my units, they will be railed to Phnom Penh and from there they will march to Saigon where will load on ships and sail to Manila

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I starting small offensive (1000AV) toward Liuchow.I believe i have less than ID defending that area
Main reason is to move some attention to that area. I believe Docup will think that i want to abandon Thailand by land to China.In 48h IR will enter hex between Liuchow and Kweilin to block rails and potential reinforcements from Changsha are.

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16-17 December 1944

Rahaeng
On 16th allies SA but somehow Japan hold, sadly on 17th another DA force Japanese troops to retreat (12000KIA[X(])
Time to rail out. I should be ready to retreat in 3-4 days. 350 top fighters on CAP. 600 in reserve. I am using elite boys in those machines.

Namlea/Ambon
Another DA. We holding positions but forts are almost gone
Grace DB sunk enemy DD that was hunting subs near Ambon and damaged another one.
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16-17 December 1944

Rahaeng
On 16th allies SA but somehow Japan hold, sadly on 17th another DA force Japanese troops to retreat (12000KIA[X(])
Time to rail out. I should be ready to retreat in 3-4 days. 350 top fighters on CAP. 600 in reserve. I am using elite boys in those machines.

Namlea/Ambon
Another DA. We holding positions but forts are almost gone
Grace DB sunk enemy DD that was hunting subs near Ambon and damaged another one.

Can you rail out if there are enemies present in hex? I'm thinking no, but maybe my memory is faulty. Will there be enemies in hex by the time you will be ready to get moving?
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16-17 December 1944

Rahaeng
On 16th allies SA but somehow Japan hold, sadly on 17th another DA force Japanese troops to retreat (12000KIA[X(])
Time to rail out. I should be ready to retreat in 3-4 days. 350 top fighters on CAP. 600 in reserve. I am using elite boys in those machines.

Namlea/Ambon
Another DA. We holding positions but forts are almost gone
Grace DB sunk enemy DD that was hunting subs near Ambon and damaged another one.

Can you rail out if there are enemies present in hex? I'm thinking no, but maybe my memory is faulty. Will there be enemies in hex by the time you will be ready to get moving?
I hope i will be able. 3 days ago i give order to march toward Rahaeng to small LCU. Let call them kamikaze squad. They will enter Rahaeng in 48h. This should reset allied movement and force allies to again push me out from hex. This should buy me time.

I am not sure if this is gamy or not.(advice appreciated) I am using unit with AV, I see this as buying time with blood of those troops. They will make traps, destroy bridges, collapse trees on road etc. Guerrilla tactic i will say. I will only use single unit.
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I am not sure if this is gamy or not.(advice appreciated) I am using unit with AV, I see this as buying time with blood of those troops. They will make traps, destroy bridges, collapse trees on road etc. Guerrilla tactic i will say. I will only use single unit.

I don't think it is gamey, it is very risky, if I understand what you are doing correctly.

Picture this, you shock into the hex and are not destroyed. The Allies deliberate attack with one unit and set all other to reserve pursuit. Want to bet they make it across the river preventing SRing any troops out of Pisanuloke? Unless your unit is destroyed in the combat.

I have done exactly that without triggering a shock attack in the pursuit phase in China.

You can SR into an enemy occupied hex, but you cannot SR out of one.
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Not gamey. Even in 1990 the US deployed 'speed bumps'* to Saudi Arabia!

* My recollection is that is what the airborne troops called themselves.
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I must risk. Moving by land is not option. I will be able to move only south (open terrain)
So he will destroy me with air force. Only hope for those troops is rail.

Attacking LCU must be destroyed, I am moving 10AV force against 5000AV. Probably attack will end after bombardment phase. My hopes is that triggering that move will somehow capture hex side and that will force allies to start movement again.

I watch replay again it looks that only single IR is on pursuit after today battle.
I think i have 2 maybe 3 days. I have 400AV in base. Enough to hold single IR so they need prabably wait for rest of army
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I must risk. Moving by land is not option. I will be able to move only south (open terrain)
So he will destroy me with air force. Only hope for those troops is rail.

Attacking LCU must be destroyed, I am moving 10AV force against 5000AV. Probably attack will end after bombardment phase. My hopes is that triggering that move will somehow capture hex side and that will force allies to start movement again.

I watch replay again it looks that only single IR is on pursuit after today battle.
I think i have 2 maybe 3 days. I have 400AV in base. Enough to hold single IR so they need prabably wait for rest of army
OK, now I am officially confused. What the heck is going on? [:D] Pictures would help for those of us hard of understanding!

You have 400 AV at which base? 'Enough to hold single IR..." but units still cannot rail out if the enemy IR is there.

As far as the 10 AV unit moving on the enemy, they will only have an effect on enemy movement if they are still there when the enemy is moving. So if they move in and flip the hex side, but make a shock attack and are destroyed then the hex side flips back to enemy control before the following movement phase. Not sure if the flipping of the previous movement phase (the turn where they were destroyed) would reset movement or not. Have to wait and see unless someone else knows for sure.
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400 AV is an base SE of Rahaeng. I belive Docup will not risk river SA with single IR so he need wait for main army and that army at best need to move 2-3 days before cross river.

We will see what will happen. I have nothing to lose and everything to gain

PS. Sorry for confusion i dont sleep from 20h
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How can you be sure through the visual pointers it's one IR moving? Doesn't the small indicator just mean it's a portion of the stack, but not the whole stack? Also Japanese recon is not trustworthy in these things. I've found out the hard way against Jocke. Close to the same area.

I don't think your unit will survive, but it might force his units into combat mode and stop their movement. There is a chance for you here. [:)]

Have any of your divisions or better units been destroyed completely or do you have the shell of them all still moving back?
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How can you be sure through the visual pointers it's one IR moving? Doesn't the small indicator just mean it's a portion of the stack, but not the whole stack? Also Japanese recon is not trustworthy in these things. I've found out the hard way against Jocke. Close to the same area.
During ground combat animation at end there was massage that Indian Regiment is in pursuit

I don't think your unit will survive, but it might force his units into combat mode and stop their movement. There is a chance for you here. [:)]

Have any of your divisions or better units been destroyed completely or do you have the shell of them all still moving back?
None of big units was destroyed all retreat from Rahaeng, but most of them is now in ~50%TOE. I lost only few arty units.
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How can you be sure through the visual pointers it's one IR moving? Doesn't the small indicator just mean it's a portion of the stack, but not the whole stack? Also Japanese recon is not trustworthy in these things. I've found out the hard way against Jocke. Close to the same area.
During ground combat animation at end there was massage that Indian Regiment is in pursuit

I don't think your unit will survive, but it might force his units into combat mode and stop their movement. There is a chance for you here. [:)]

Have any of your divisions or better units been destroyed completely or do you have the shell of them all still moving back?
None of big units was destroued all "shell of them" retret from Rahaeng, but most of them is now in ~50%TOE. I lost only few arty units.

Ah, yes. You might be okay then. Especially since it will take him a while to get there with the rest and he can't shock over in move/reserve mode anyway. Will you bomb to slow them?
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going sleep. Need to wake up in 6h.
Soon maps and details.
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How can you be sure through the visual pointers it's one IR moving? Doesn't the small indicator just mean it's a portion of the stack, but not the whole stack? Also Japanese recon is not trustworthy in these things. I've found out the hard way against Jocke. Close to the same area.
During ground combat animation at end there was massage that Indian Regiment is in pursuit

I don't think your unit will survive, but it might force his units into combat mode and stop their movement. There is a chance for you here. [:)]

Have any of your divisions or better units been destroyed completely or do you have the shell of them all still moving back?
None of big units was destroued all "shell of them" retret from Rahaeng, but most of them is now in ~50%TOE. I lost only few arty units.

Ah, yes. You might be okay then. Especially since it will take him a while to get there with the rest and he can't shock over in move/reserve mode anyway. Will you bomb to slow them?

I will try. 200 bombers will attack tomorrow.

50% TOE mean 50% squads alive but IDs from Rahaen have less than 20AV each.
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18 December 1944

Rahaeng
I send all avaible RC planes above Rahaeng. Plus almost 100 Japanese figters sweep base. Bombers dont fly because of storm
They find empty sky but reckon show that allies are nor moving toward me.
That are great news. Just in case i will SA trough river tomorrow

Almost 15 units will rail out tomorrow.

Arafura Sea
I see two AC TFs. I believe it is fake. Dont believe that Docup will try again there.
I have reinforced search arcs in Pacific.

Ambon
Ambon almost fall. 100AV left. Supplies low

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19 December 1944

Rahaeng
Over 15000 man, 300 guns and 400 vehicles eventuated. Still 35000 to go. Most of them will be railed out tomorrow.

Ambon
After 70 days of siege base fall[:(]. I still have some boys in jungle but they have no combat value

Ground combat at Ambon (76,109)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 34788 troops, 587 guns, 842 vehicles, Assault Value = 1164

Defending force 16285 troops, 212 guns, 25 vehicles, Assault Value = 153

Allied adjusted assault: 359

Japanese adjusted defense: 133

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Ambon !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2631 casualties reported
Squads: 113 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 31 disabled
Engineers: 64 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 51 (35 destroyed, 16 disabled)
Vehicles lost 27 (27 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
179 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 28 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled

Assaulting units:
8th Australian Division
1st Army Tank Regiment
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
Americal Infantry Division
754th Tank Battalion
1st Australian Division
181st Field Artillery Regiment
225th Field Artillery Battalion
55th Coastal Artillery Battalion
2/16th Field Regiment

Defending units:
46th Division
112th Infantry Regiment
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
31st Special Base Force
20th RF Gun Battalion
24th JAAF AF Bn
148th Infantry Regiment
6th JNAF Coy
156th JAAF AF Bn
66th JNAF AF Unit
47th Const Co
157th JAAF AF Bn



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20 December 1944

Thailand
Another 30000 men evacuated from Pisanuloke. Tomorrow last group of 10000 man will rail toward Bangkok.
Docup start moving troop from Rahaeng toward Pisanuloke. But it is to late to capture my boys there

Ambon
I am evacuating by air my boys from jungle. All float transport in use.

SW China
Japanese troops enter Nanning. Tomorrow i will capture it. I everything go well i will try to capture also Liuchow

200th Sentai.
Unit almost ready. I plan to have first sweep in 4 days.
Tomorrow last 15 planes should repair.

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Ahhh, that is such a fun air group! I think I had the Ki-44r in it first, then as you're doing the Ki-83. Docup will not like this at all. [:D]

Congrats on getting your troops out of the mess in Thailand. Looks like it's turned into a great fighting withdrawl rather than a fiasco.
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21 December 1944

Thailand
All troops from Pisanuloke railed out.
But something strange happens[&:]. Two units move only 46 miles south and they movement was canceled. Lucky they remain in strategic mode so can continue movement tomorrow.

Over 100 fighters sweep Pisanuloke but no bombers.

200th Sentai arrive to Bangkok. Tomorrow they will sweep

China
Nanning captured. I am moving toward Liuchow

Ground combat at Nanning (72,55)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 8605 troops, 138 guns, 628 vehicles, Assault Value = 1317

Defending force 870 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 708

Allied adjusted defense: 9

Japanese assault odds: 78 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Nanning !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Allied ground losses:
385 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 23 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1



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But something strange happens[&:]. Two units move only 46 miles south and they movement was canceled. Lucky they remain in strategic mode so can continue movement tomorrow.

Had that happen in China quiet frequently on move mode. Reported as a bug but it was never solved.
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