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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:04 am
by Cap Mandrake
************Boardroom, Bell Aircraft, Buffalo********
Chairman:...thank you for that information. Mr. Minderbinder, have you any information on the contract extension?
RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:39 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Ummmm..is the "1" model of the Corsair carrier capable...or does that start with the "1A"?
Historically, the USN had trouble bringing the the Corsair into action on the carriers due to the extra pilot training required.
Why don't you load up one of your carriers with it and find out? [;)]
Oh, I'm kidding. Don't. The F4U-1 is *not* carrier capable. Classic rookie mistake putting it on flattops. BTW, you can see this information by selecting your plane and ship database.
RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:45 pm
by HansBolter
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Ummmm..is the "1" model of the Corsair carrier capable...or does that start with the "1A"?
Historically, the USN had trouble bringing the the Corsair into action on the carriers due to the extra pilot training required.
Starts with the 1A.
RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:05 pm
by Cap Mandrake
Yes, that's what I thought. Fortunately, due to some fortuitous planning, the USN now has more carrier fighter squadrons than they have CV decks so the Corsair 1 can grace a USN Navy or Marine squadron for flying off dirt.[:)]
RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:15 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
*********Ad hoc barroom, Customs House, Townsville********
Lt "Sparks": <enters excitedly> SIR! Intercepts show with a high level of confidence that Cam Rahn Fortress is at Cam Rahn Bay!
FAM: Why, that's splendid, son! Smashing even. Next time Milo is in town Ill see if he has one of those native golf bags you've been pining after. Sparks, I don't think I am overstating this is the kind of information that could change the outcome of the war!
Lt "Sparks": Thanks you sir! Thank you very much!
FAM: You deserve it. Now, be sure to let us know anything else that comes up.
Lt "Sparks": Yes sir! <salutes and practically skips out of the bar>
Moana: Boss, where ELSE would the Cam Rahn Fortress be?
FAM: It's good for morale. Say, did I mention how fetching you look tonight?
Moana: Thank you boss, but have you forgotten the briefing from SouPac HR?
FAM: Bloody Puritans! How do they expect anyone to have fun during the war?
Let us know (in detail) if you find a way to boost both Moana's morale and yours. Wacky Jungle Tobacci doesn't count!

RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:51 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
And why is the US Army still buying the P-39 in late '42?
Because the new model P-39 isn't available until mid-'43.
RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:46 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: witpqs
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
And why is the US Army still buying the P-39 in late '42?
Because the new model P-39 isn't available until mid-'43.
Wouldn't the new and improved P-39 be the P-40? Isn't that available now? [&:]
RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:40 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: witpqs
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
And why is the US Army still buying the P-39 in late '42?
Because the new model P-39 isn't available until mid-'43.
Wouldn't the new and improved P-39 be the P-40? Isn't that available now? [&:]
You must've missed the "new math" when you were a kid!
RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:37 am
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: witpqs
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
And why is the US Army still buying the P-39 in late '42?
Because the new model P-39 isn't available until mid-'43.
Wouldn't the new and improved P-39 be the P-40? Isn't that available now? [&:]
It is so much better that they call it the P-400! A giant leap in technol- ... ummm .... profit!
RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:53 pm
by Bif1961
P-40 was already taken so the export version of the P-39 was called P-400 as it was actually not an improved version of the basic P-39 but an export version of the P-39. The P-400 substituted the 37 MM nose cannon for 20 MM one and 30 cal machine guns for .303 MGs are requested by the British who order 675 of the P-400 but only used 80 in combat and decide because of the lack of the Turbo supercharger the performance was sub -par and passed 200 of them to the Russians via Lend-Lease and returned 250 back to the US, who used them in combat.
RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:59 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Bif1961
P-40 was already taken so the export version of the P-39 was called P-400 as it was actually not an improved version of the basic P-39 but an export version of the P-39. The P-400 substituted the 37 MM nose cannon for 20 MM one and 30 cal machine guns for .303 MGs are requested by the British who order 675 of the P-400 but only used 80 in combat and decide because of the lack of the Turbo supercharger the performance was sub -par and passed 200 of them to the Russians via Lend-Lease and returned 250 back to the US, who used them in combat.
I never noticed the switch from .50 cal to .303 before, but the 20mm Hispano cannon was a much better weapon for shooting at flying aircraft than the slow-firing/limited ammo 37mm. I haven't tried the P-400 on barges yet but I bet they rock!

RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:10 pm
by witpqs
BB: P-39N1 IIRC is the upgrade I was referring to.
RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:48 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: witpqs
BB: P-39N1 IIRC is the upgrade I was referring to.
I guessed that, but wanted to build on Cap's "higher number must be better" theme. Everything I typed along that line was with my tongue firmly planted in my cheek (the facial ones, guys!)[;)]
RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:46 am
by Disco Duck
ORIGINAL: Bif1961
P-40 was already taken so the export version of the P-39 was called P-400 as it was actually not an improved version of the basic P-39 but an export version of the P-39. The P-400 substituted the 37 MM nose cannon for 20 MM one and 30 cal machine guns for .303 MGs are requested by the British who order 675 of the P-400 but only used 80 in combat and decide because of the lack of the Turbo supercharger the performance was sub -par and passed 200 of them to the Russians via Lend-Lease and returned 250 back to the US, who used them in combat.
And the Russians loved them
RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:12 am
by Cap Mandrake
How do you solve a problem like the P-400? You get them shot down until they stop sending them.

RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:49 am
by witpqs
Splendid! Bravo!
[:D]
RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:26 am
by Cap Mandrake
************December 26, 1942(e)**********
Pretty tame. Not a lot of crying in teepees.
PI: The sweep wars continue over Luzon and Mindanao. The PI are consuming resources from both sides. We are still narrowly losing in the air, even after I carefully weeded out the underachiever pilots. We have some more planes coming from CBI theater and a squadron coverting to P-38 in Darwin but it takes forever to glue the wings back on on those thing.
Morning Air attack on Bataan , at 78,77
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 26,190 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 17
Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 2
P-38G Lightning x 1
P-39D Airacobra x 4
P-40K Warhawk x 7
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire Vc Trop: 1 destroyed
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 2 destroyed
RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:28 am
by Cap Mandrake
Morning Air attack on Malaybalay , at 80,90
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 26,560 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 24
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 1
P-38G Lightning x 2
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
gaak
Morning Air attack on Malaybalay , at 80,90
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 21,190 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 19
Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 7
P-40K Warhawk x 8
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 2 destroyed
RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:30 am
by Cap Mandrake
We are just outnumbered, chiefly.
Morning Air attack on Malaybalay , at 80,90
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 27,560 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 21
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:32 am
by Cap Mandrake
Fortunately, the Bettys are holding down the Southern fortress at Kendari so the Japs don't have very effective bombing raids. We are still able to keep all the bases open on Luzon and Mindanao.
Morning Air attack on Bataan , at 78,77
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 16
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 6
Allied aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 2 damaged
P-40K Warhawk: 1 damaged
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4
And Malaybalay
Morning Air attack on Malaybalay , at 80,90
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 8
Allied aircraft
no flights
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 damaged
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 1
And Luzon again.
Morning Air attack on Bataan , at 78,77
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 3
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 15
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 15
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 19
Allied aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 5 damaged
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 1 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 7 damaged
P-38G Lightning: 1 damaged
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 12