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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:41 pm
by Kereguelen
ORIGINAL: ny59giants
Will there be any penalty for them to jump from base to base during those early months which often happens now (most are probably done with little to no prep points)??
Andy basically answered your question, but if I may add a few points here:
There are not that many units available for Japan in the AE to jump from base to base during the early months (and less shipping that is suited for this task - but this is basically a Naval Team thingy).
Eventually Japan will receive (many) more units than in stock (and Japan will need them just to adequately garrison all the new bases), but there were many errors in the WITP OOB, especially when it comes to IJN LCU's (double-counting of units, units being available far too early, units being too strong etc.).
For example, SNLF's (there are no NLF's anymore) should still do well against weak Allied units (Philippine units, Dutch units, some CW units), but it will not be enough to drop some SNLF's to dislodge a US RCT or a NZ Brigade anymore. For this tasks, Japan will need some IJA units with their heavier equipment.
RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:59 pm
by VSWG
ORIGINAL: Andy Mac
The exact forces that will be released are pure judgement on my part
As things stand now
India gets a Corps HQ (XXI Corps), 56th British Div (that has to leave in 43 for Italy if it appears), 6th Indian Div and 8th Indian Div both in the ME at this time as well as 251st Armoured Bde and an AA Bde
Australia gets 44th British Div (en route round the cape at this time arrives in Capetown), 9th Aus Div accelerated at Aden, 2nd Para Bde and an AA Bde (I may also allow a SA Motorised Bde but I am mulling the last one over)
NZ gets 2nd NZ Div, 32nd Army Tank Bde an AA Bde (all Aden), 12th NZ Bde (in NZ) plus possibly the Militia mounted rifle regts (6 of them in NZ) if I decide not just to have them on map.
ORIGINAL: Andy Mac
Oh and probably a reinforcement draft which may be disbanded to provide replacements but setting this up so the AI will use it is difficult
Superb! [8D]
I have one request though. Please write a short chapter about all these special drafts, invasion reinforcement and TOE changes in the new manual, or in a separate document. Otherwise I foresee an endless stream of "What The H*ll Just Happened" threads, followed by a steep increase of "Must Read Threads". [;)]
Thank you very much for your detailed answers!! [&o]
RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:05 pm
by Andy Mac
Detailed answers are not a problem

As I said we are completing a scen build just now and we need to get back to AI and testing but I am always happy to come and try and answer questions !!!
RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:14 pm
by Brady
Questions:
1) Do Enginear vehicals count toward the total number of alowable enginear squads in a hex?
2)Do the Dutch Still have all those enginear vehicals in their Enginear squads?
3) Do the dutch Enginear units still work to destroy infastructure before it is captured?
4) Can fortifacations be captured and used? I know that on wake is. for example some of the guns the Japanese emplaced their were taken from captured forts else whear, and some forts that were captured we used to some degree in some locations.
5)Duch HQ's/French HQ's, I asume their are Dutch HQ's, do they get a Naval HQ? Air? and what of the French?
RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:38 pm
by Andy Mac
1) Yes my understanding is its 250 max squad or squad equivalent so 50 Eng Vehicles or 250 squads.
2) Short answer is some do some dont there are three standard Dutch Base forces small outpost sized which have a few scattered about, main base forces which have 3 or 4 and nodal which have 4
I am currently reducung these a little following some concerns expressed by Joe but broadly yes there are a few and there will remain a few. Same applies here though chances of somewhere like Soerbaja betting to lvl 9 forts is now remote.
3) Yes
4) No
5) HQ's there is a Free French Static HQ in London an ABDA HQ (Command) and a KNIL Army Command HQ (Corps level HQ) for the dutch both Dutch HQ's disband in early 43
Inside the 1st month Air Commodore Brook Pophams Air Command Java becomes operational its a British Air HQ
ORIGINAL: Brady
Questions:
1) Do Enginear vehicals count toward the total number of alowable enginear squads in a hex?
2)Do the Dutch Still have all those enginear vehicals in their Enginear squads?
3) Do the dutch Enginear units still work to destroy infastructure before it is captured?
4) Can fortifacations be captured and used? I know that on wake is. for example some of the guns the Japanese emplaced their were taken from captured forts else whear, and some forts that were captured we used to some degree in some locations.
5)Dutch HQ's/French HQ's, I asume their are Dutch HQ's, do they get a Naval HQ? Air? and what of the French?
RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:48 pm
by Andy Mac
Just checked Brady 4 Dutch Base Forces have 4 Engineer Vehicles apiece or capacity to have them (Soerbaja, Batavia, Palembang and Balikapapan)
All others have max 1 and most dont even have that there are less than 20 Engineering Vehicles in whole DEI
Andy
RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:30 am
by Brady
London...?
Thanks Andy btw[:)]
RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:26 am
by Gunner98
ORIGINAL: Andy Mac
OK Guys wearing my other hat now not land team lead
The rules must be an HQ (Naval, Ground or Air HQ)
Can be for British, Indian, CW, NZ, Australian, or Canadian Forces
I need the name the rank anbd the date of arrival -
Canada Land (2), Air (1) (has 1 air HQ but no leader)
Fire away I look forward to recieving suggestions
I'll take a shot at the Cdn bit:
Land Commander's
(do you need the National Commanders CGS etc?)
Pacific Command:
MGen R.O. Alexander (DSO) GOC in C Pacific Command (Later CinC West Coast Defences) Oct 1940 - 30 Jun 42
From 30 May 42 until Sept 42 the CGS moved West and took command until the Midway/Alleutian situation clerified:
LGen K Stuart (CB, DSO, MC)
MGen Pearkes, (VC, CB, DSO, MC) 2 Sep 42 - 15 Feb 45
MGen Worthington (CB, MC, MM) 1 Apr 45 - 22 Jan 46
Military Distric No. 11 (this post was linked to Pacific Command and was only filled when CGS arrived
Gen Alexander 30 May 42 - 30 Jun 42
GOC 6th Div (Vancouver Island and Southern mainland )
MGen A.E. Potts (CBE, ED) 20 May 42 - 11 Oct 43
MGen H.N. Ganong (CBE) 16 Oct 42 15 Dec 44
GOC 8th Div (Northern BC)
MGen H.N. Ganong 11 July 42 - 15 Oct 43
6th & 8th Divs were merged in Oct 43
I am looking for the Air Staff but my library in that area is scant.
RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:38 am
by Gunner98
While looking for the Air commander (still working) I found a list of RCAF stations in BC. It may be too much to ask (or probably for the Map thread) but could you indicate if any of these are included:
RCAF Station Abbotsford, British Columbia
RCAF Station Alliford Bay, British Columbia
RCAF Station Bella Bella, British Columbia
RCAF Station Boundary Bay, British Columbia
RCAF Station Coal Harbour, British Columbia
RCAF Station / CFB 19 Wing Comox, British Columbia
RCAF Station Dog Creek, British Columbia
RCAF Station Jericho Beach, British Columbia
RCAF Station Patricia Bay, British Columbia
RCAF Station Port Hardy, British Columbia
RCAF Station Prince Rupert, British Columbia
RCAF Station Sea Island, British Columbia
RCAF Station Tofino, British Columbia
RCAF Station Terrace, British Columbia
RCAF Station Uclulet, British Columbia
RCAF Station Vancouver, British Columbia
Victoria International Airport, British Columbia
Thanks
RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:47 am
by Rainerle
Question:
Land unit moves from A to adjacent B and has already walked 50 miles. If I now set the destination to C which is 1 hex beyond B I lose the 50 miles and the unit starts at 0 miles travelled distance. Can this be changed?
RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:36 am
by Andy Mac
Yup there is a London/UK Box with the Rosyth shipyards - its the arrival point for some British and French late war troops.
Andy
ORIGINAL: Brady
London...?
Thanks Andy btw[:)]
RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:38 am
by Andy Mac
I have Alexander and Peakes as the two land HQ options for the Canadians its an air leader of Group Captain or higher that I need
ORIGINAL: Gunner98
ORIGINAL: Andy Mac
OK Guys wearing my other hat now not land team lead
The rules must be an HQ (Naval, Ground or Air HQ)
Can be for British, Indian, CW, NZ, Australian, or Canadian Forces
I need the name the rank anbd the date of arrival -
Canada Land (2), Air (1) (has 1 air HQ but no leader)
Fire away I look forward to recieving suggestions
I'll take a shot at the Cdn bit:
Land Commander's
(do you need the National Commanders CGS etc?)
Pacific Command:
MGen R.O. Alexander (DSO) GOC in C Pacific Command (Later CinC West Coast Defences) Oct 1940 - 30 Jun 42
From 30 May 42 until Sept 42 the CGS moved West and took command until the Midway/Alleutian situation clerified:
LGen K Stuart (CB, DSO, MC)
MGen Pearkes, (VC, CB, DSO, MC) 2 Sep 42 - 15 Feb 45
MGen Worthington (CB, MC, MM) 1 Apr 45 - 22 Jan 46
Military Distric No. 11 (this post was linked to Pacific Command and was only filled when CGS arrived
Gen Alexander 30 May 42 - 30 Jun 42
GOC 6th Div (Vancouver Island and Southern mainland )
MGen A.E. Potts (CBE, ED) 20 May 42 - 11 Oct 43
MGen H.N. Ganong (CBE) 16 Oct 42 15 Dec 44
GOC 8th Div (Northern BC)
MGen H.N. Ganong 11 July 42 - 15 Oct 43
6th & 8th Divs were merged in Oct 43
I am looking for the Air Staff but my library in that area is scant.
RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:38 am
by Andrew Brown
ORIGINAL: Brady
London...?
Thanks Andy btw[:)]
Not London literally, but the "UK" base, which represents, naturally enough, all of the UK.
Andrew
RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:40 am
by Andy Mac
Some of these are in some are not and some are down as RCMP (the very small ones) - I have edited the list to indicate those that made the cut
RCAF Station Alliford Bay, British Columbia
RCAF Station Bella Bella, British Columbia
RCAF Station Boundary Bay, British Columbia
RCAF Station Coal Harbour, British Columbia
RCAF Station Prince Rupert, British Columbia
RCAF Station Terrace, British Columbia
RCAF Station Vancouver, British Columbia
Victoria International Airport, British Columbia
Thanks
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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:40 am
by Andrew Brown
ORIGINAL: Gunner98
While looking for the Air commander (still working) I found a list of RCAF stations in BC. It may be too much to ask (or probably for the Map thread) but could you indicate if any of these are included:
RCAF Station Abbotsford, British Columbia
RCAF Station Alliford Bay, British Columbia
RCAF Station Bella Bella, British Columbia
RCAF Station Boundary Bay, British Columbia
RCAF Station Coal Harbour, British Columbia
RCAF Station / CFB 19 Wing Comox, British Columbia
RCAF Station Dog Creek, British Columbia
RCAF Station Jericho Beach, British Columbia
RCAF Station Patricia Bay, British Columbia
RCAF Station Port Hardy, British Columbia
RCAF Station Prince Rupert, British Columbia
RCAF Station Sea Island, British Columbia
RCAF Station Tofino, British Columbia
RCAF Station Terrace, British Columbia
RCAF Station Uclulet, British Columbia
RCAF Station Vancouver, British Columbia
Victoria International Airport, British Columbia
Thanks
Some of these are included. Some are not.
In general, although we have added quite a few bases in North America, the base "density" there is still lower than other places, due to the fact that it is virtually never a ground combat area.
Andrew
RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:41 am
by Andy Mac
No its to hard as we cannot make it direction specific so the player could always at 99% complete change direction 180 degrees
So no this wont be changed
ORIGINAL: Rainerle
Question:
Land unit moves from A to adjacent B and has already walked 50 miles. If I now set the destination to C which is 1 hex beyond B I lose the 50 miles and the unit starts at 0 miles travelled distance. Can this be changed?
RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:13 pm
by Sonny II
ORIGINAL: Rainerle
Question:
Land unit moves from A to adjacent B and has already walked 50 miles. If I now set the destination to C which is 1 hex beyond B I lose the 50 miles and the unit starts at 0 miles travelled distance. Can this be changed?
If he has gone 50 miles he is already in hex B in AE because hexes are 46 statute miles.[;)][:D]
RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:17 pm
by Andy Mac
True very true
RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:36 pm
by Kereguelen
ORIGINAL: Andy Mac
I have Alexander and Peakes as the two land HQ options for the Canadians its an air leader of Group Captain or higher that I need
AVM L.F. Stevenson (CO of RCAF Western Air Command)
GCPT B.D. Dal Russel (CO of RCAF X-Wing, commanding the RCAF Squadrons under USAAF operational command in Alaska)
RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:44 pm
by Andy Mac
Thanks K perfect that will do nicely