FILE SET RHS 2.23 Released [Minor update]

[el cid again]

It seems that if you enter any device (e.g. AA gun) in a slot after a slot which contains a kind of radar (e.g. type 13) this device is treated as electronics device. (Can be seen on info screen in game.) Maybe this influences only the info in the detail screen, but maybe there is also an influence to the function of the device. In RHS this applies for example in the case of Yamato (503 and later upgrades) and Shinano (502). I suggest to use a radar device always as last device of a ship/aircraft/unit. This is the save way.

I think you may be correct. I think single 25mms were added by someone - to be correct - as an afterthought.

[el cid again]

Allies start both scenarios with the abilitly to create 4 more PT boats.... have try tried this... U go 4 RUSSIAN PT boats!!!! is this an error???

Maybe not. I just found 4 Russian PT boats - and killed them! I put Russian PT boats - and small coastal subs - in as devices in port defense units - and not as independent naval units. But there were four stray Russian G-5s running around. Interesting you see 4 - the same number. Maybe they are gone now?

[el cid again]

Also have noticed on a lot of the Subs outa Manilla you get a weapon identified as a "SHORT GUN ANY" is this correct???

Actually it is. It is something like a 76mm/23. I combined this device with three Japanese short guns and one UK short gun (the Japanese are 47mm/ 76mm and 120mm) - all of which have the same range and shell weight (which is not much) - in spite of radically different names. Got four slots for guns otherwise not available that way. Didn't know any were on subs - most are on merchant ships!

[el cid again]

The equipment (weapons, electronics) is defined in the Air Group field/database. Normally one refreshes changed plane types etc. But if one gives (by entering this manually from the device list) an airgroup that used the Swordfish I with torpedoes a torpedo without refreshing it, this airgroup will keep torpedoes as equipment because the equipment data that are used by a given airgroup are read from the airgroup data and not from the plane data. This will allow us to give airgroups that enter the game with equipment that is different from the equipment that is normal for this plane this equipment (as long as it does not upgrade to another plane (upgrading an airgroup is database-wise a refreshment from another plane type). Thus we can have airgroups that basically use the same plane with different types of equipment as long as they have their original plane type....

Understood? Or do I have to explain this more?

This seems to be correct. Certain errors exist in this form. But there is this: the GAME will at some points "refresh" the record - and then players will lose the different air group! One of these points is in 1943. Others occur dynamically - for various reasons - as code checks for this or that - or if AI is bossing the unit and looks at it "thinking" about upgrading.

[el cid again]

the Aoba (517-518) exchanges its type 21 radar for type 2 depth charges (weapon slot 10) in the 7/44 upgrade, correct?

Certainly sounds wrong. In fact, Aoba should never have depth charges as far as I know. You guys have data microscopes!

[el cid again]

As far as solutions go, it depends on what will work.

A) Leave as is. Considerations:
a) For PBEM it doesn't matter because players control upgrades and they can exercise restraint.
b) Against the Japanese AI, makes little or no difference.
c) Against the Allied AI, well - it's still the AI and therefore needs any help it can get.
This solution (leave as is) would be okay - less than perfect, but pretty good.

I have removed almost all the pools. I left a small number of small pools, for cause. I may put a couple of others in, eventually. I sometimes changed the production rate to adjust for it. I thought about changing the availability date - but in no case was it appropriate. I think your observations were - and remain - quite germane - and on balance I decided to take them out - in spite of the fact it is more accurate to have them. I hope WITP II locks in the availability date better.

[el cid again]

E) Solicit a coding change to prevent use of a/c in the pool prior to their introduction date.

There seems to be a lot better cooperation with code changes than we have believed existed in the past. Or maybe we always had it but were never aware? Anyway- I think a lot of little things will (are) get better.

[el cid again]

ERR CID, Illustrious was not in the indian ocean untill may 42
Indominable was however and enters as you say above, By may 1942 there were 3 fleet carriers in the eastern fleet which only started reducing in size after midway

Right - right. It is easy to get them mixed up - they are all so similar!
but you said it right

[el cid again]

Reason for this could be the following:
In stock scenarios slots 6523-6922 have only (and a lot) PT boats. In RHS in this area (not quite, since one is in slot 6517) there are only 4 PT boats, exactly the 4 soviet PT boat that one gets. (The american PT boats are between 5015-5409 in RHS.)
I have this theory: If one PT boat is requested the programm looks into this slot range (~6523 - ~6922) and selects the next available (not already deployed) PT boat (it seems there is a check so it only selects PTs no others like AKs, which is good news). If this is correct than this is bad news, since in RHS there are only this exactly 4 soviet PT boat inside of the "PT boat range" -> no additional PT boat for the allied player beside the 4 soviet ones.

Good news: the 4 Soviet ones are gone - they won't be an issue

Bad news: this slot range is inherited from CHS177 - so it is going to be a problem for CHS and RHS both in current form. We may get it fixed.

[el cid again]

Maybe there is some similar problem with japanese barges, because one gets the 4 Thai sea trucks (812-815) as AGs and only them. (Stock AGs are between 1960-2104, RHS AGs are between 2880-2998.)

Again, this is likely a preview of CHS. RHS is essentially CHS 177 ship wise - particularly for minor ships (and for the really big ones). I will inform Andrew.

Andrew detected (re Soviet issues) that departing from stock slots caused problems. I independently stumbled on to the same fact. Both CHS and RHS moved back towards stock for things like locations and devices. We did not know ships were like that too - except in some cases - which we did know about. Lots of work was done on ships for CHS 155 - and lots got moved. Still more was done for 177. I have done little but change class data and update - except I deleted some minor things and put other stuff in those locations. I am coming to the theory that it is better to soft code everything -- this hard code is a bear!

[el cid again]

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aterpa

Version 2.30:

In the slots that are used for upgrading large (japanese) freighters are wrong ship classes:

- upgrading AK to AE -> points to slot 092, currently AV Kamoi -> should be a kind of AE
- upgrading AK to AR -> points to slot 090, currently empty -> should be a kind of AR
- upgrading AK to AS -> points to slot 106, currently AS Rio de Janario -> may be ok (should it be Rio de Janeiro)?
- upgrading AK to AV -> points to slot 056, currently LSD Mayasan Maru -> should be a kind of AV
- upgrading AK to MLE -> points to slot 108, currently AO Sunosaki -> should be a kind of MLE

I will fix the first four. The last is plain wrong. The AK is a big one - and an MLE is small!

[Aterpa]

ORIGINAL: el cid again

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aterpa

Version 2.30:

In the slots that are used for upgrading large (japanese) freighters are wrong ship classes:

- upgrading AK to AE -> points to slot 092, currently AV Kamoi -> should be a kind of AE
- upgrading AK to AR -> points to slot 090, currently empty -> should be a kind of AR
- upgrading AK to AS -> points to slot 106, currently AS Rio de Janario -> may be ok (should it be Rio de Janeiro)?
- upgrading AK to AV -> points to slot 056, currently LSD Mayasan Maru -> should be a kind of AV
- upgrading AK to MLE -> points to slot 108, currently AO Sunosaki -> should be a kind of MLE

I will fix the first four. The last is plain wrong. The AK is a big one - and an MLE is small!

As I understand this feature should allow a japanese (and allied too) player to give a freigther some refit to do special tasks as it could have been done historicaly, like the possibility to transport lots of mines and rearm MLs.
In stock there is a ship class "Large MLE" especialy for this. (It has been removed in RHS for the japanese side only, it is still in use for the allied side (359)!)

[DrewBlack]

Cid

Still getting those pesky Russian PT boats!!! 2.31

[DrewBlack]

CId

Also

[Aterpa]

Version 2.31:

- CA Idzumo class upgrades to ML Tokiwa class, correct?
- SS type KD4 (Kaiten) (647) upgrades to KD4 (Transport) (648) which upgrades to KD4 (Snorkel) (649), seems not right to me
- Uruppu Jima (647) has entry for resources, but amounth 0
- IJA Air Sector HQ (964) has sound detector and type 13 radar at the same time
- 8th IJA Tank Regiment (1435) has formation set to 0 -> should be 939 (tank regiment)
- All IJN base forces (1493-1498) will become static, they are based on formation 966 (Base Force) that has 4.7" gun (10) that is immobile instead of the 5.5" gun that this formations start with

[Aterpa]

ORIGINAL: DrewBlack

Cid

Still getting those pesky Russian PT boats!!! 2.31

This bug was discovered in version 2.31. So give him a chance, it will be changed in the next version I guess. Cid is fast in implementing fixes.

[Herrbear]

ORIGINAL: Hipper

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I will Mail the the database to anyone interested.
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I would like to get your database. Mail to herrbear at hotmail dot com

Thank you.

[Skyros]

Unless it was changed for production reasons the two factories in Melborne were for Wirraway(0) 40 and Beafort V-IX (0) 25, and sydny for Beafort V-IX (0)20 in the stock scenarios. I am not an expert but I do not think that B-29s or King Copras were produced in AUstralia.

ORIGINAL: el cid again

This may have been raised already and it could be the way you wanted it, but the aircraft manufacturing facilities at Melborne are researching King Cobras and B29s and Sydny is researching King Cobras. I also noticed that the base at lunga had already completed 2% toewards building a level 1 field.

I know nothing of this. Is there anything wrong with it?

[Skyros]

At cloncurry 39,11 is the Toboali Civil Enginerring Unit Atttached to ABDA. Their is a unit of the same name at Taboali.

Minor nits and it could be an error on my set up but the Anson is showing a P-38/F-4 picture the TIVa is showing a Tempest Picture.

I also noticed that the two Anson Squadrons At Rabaul one is over stocked with 12 aircraft and the unit screen say 8 max and the other Squadron only has 4 aircraft but can hold 8. Wasn't sure if this was intentional.

[Aterpa]

Version 2.31:

- IJA Tank Regiment (939) has Ho-Ni IV in weapon slot 3 -> should be Ho-Ni II that later upgrades to Ho-Ni IV