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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:51 pm
by Lowpe
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth

That's a lot of float planes for a single CA, no?
Typically they come with one Jake and two Petes, but can add another FP. But to me 3 Jakes and 8 Petes = 2 CA and CL.

I know the Furutaka has only 2, and is worth significantly less than other IJN cruisers.

RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:59 pm
by Lowpe
IJN going after the R class battleships at Cochin...



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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 11:13 pm
by T Rav
In the words of a long-dead commander, "Keep Up The Fire." Manchu's...

Go Lowpe!

RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 11:26 pm
by ushakov
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Typically they come with one Jake and two Petes, but can add another FP. But to me 3 Jakes and 8 Petes = 2 CA and CL.
That would be my guess as well, if I had to make one.

Add to previous engagements, and that's what, 4 IJN CAs (20% of total) in the first 6 months of the war? And all of the more modern classes? That's gotta hurt.

RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:30 am
by RangerJoe
I would not scuttle those DDs. Who knows, they might put out the fires. Then they can be used as CAP traps if the enemy decides to bomb the port. Eventually you could get them to Brisbane and then repaired if they can put out the fires. Just take the marshmallows and the hot dogs away from the crews.

It is interesting in that it appears that the second FP unit from the cruisers were not taken off, expanded, then used for training and/or ASW purposes. Although Jakes down low can do some good damage to non-armoured ships.

RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:18 am
by JohnDillworth
IRL, by late 1942 pretty much all of the U.S. pre-war navy was at the bottom of the Pacific or in dry dock. By the end of 1943 U.S. industry would have replaced all of that and then some. Japan simply can't do that. As long as you do not get sucked into a carrier battle you can continue to go toe to toe and as long as you are trading 1:1 punches you are winning. Pick your fights and steer clear of his carriers when you are picking targets. Taking a bite out of the IJN's CA's has to hurt.

RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:23 am
by mind_messing
I am liking your use of the USAAF fighters in the anti-shipping role. Makes me feel justified in training LowNav on my fighter pilots as a matter of course.

They've been pretty nifty for naval point defence and when mixed with the dive bombers it really can stretch early war IJ CAP.

I think I've played Japan too much, as IJ low level attacks tend to get mauled by flak. When it's the Allies attacking at low level, it seems much more effective.

RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:28 am
by Lowpe
Scuttled one destroyer, sending the other to Brisbane on cruise, (3 hexes, coastal)...hopefully they make it.

Our Brooklyn SAG and Helena SAG are hunting IJN cripples...our heavy cruiser force is joined with the Allied light cruisers to bombard Bundaberg while PT boats patrol the harbor.

Sweeps and full out bombing of Bundaberg before another general assault...some airacobras strafing the port.

Letting the IJN bombard Cochin...working on coordinating the land base air to strike back.

Setting up forward CAT bases on bypassed islands...

SSTs can't load troops at Christmas Island...need a larger port to un-gray out the area. I have the option at Pearl for example. So for now the SSTs will carry supplies to our CAT bases.

Converting four ships to DE...




RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:34 am
by Lowpe
ORIGINAL: mind_messing

I am liking your use of the USAAF fighters in the anti-shipping role. Makes me feel justified in training LowNav on my fighter pilots as a matter of course.

They've been pretty nifty for naval point defence and when mixed with the dive bombers it really can stretch early war IJ CAP.

I think I've played Japan too much, as IJ low level attacks tend to get mauled by flak. When it's the Allies attacking at low level, it seems much more effective.

It coordinates nicely with huge amount of great flak...almost never fly any CAP over bases.

Got my first 2 P38s in the production pool...almost all P38 groups withdraw in 18 days or so. I am hunting around to find out what group I could upgrade to them...I think I have one group of Mohawks in San Diego that can upgrade to them. But I have to wait for the F version to get bombs on them.


RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:35 am
by Lowpe
ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth

IRL, by late 1942 pretty much all of the U.S. pre-war navy was at the bottom of the Pacific or in dry dock. By the end of 1943 U.S. industry would have replaced all of that and then some. Japan simply can't do that. As long as you do not get sucked into a carrier battle you can continue to go toe to toe and as long as you are trading 1:1 punches you are winning. Pick your fights and steer clear of his carriers when you are picking targets. Taking a bite out of the IJN's CA's has to hurt.

Trying to pick my battles, use destroyers and some models of light cruisers very hard, watching the weather and moonlight thru 42.

RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:37 am
by Lowpe
ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

I would not scuttle those DDs. Who knows, they might put out the fires. Then they can be used as CAP traps if the enemy decides to bomb the port. Eventually you could get them to Brisbane and then repaired if they can put out the fires. Just take the marshmallows and the hot dogs away from the crews.

It is interesting in that it appears that the second FP unit from the cruisers were not taken off, expanded, then used for training and/or ASW purposes. Although Jakes down low can do some good damage to non-armoured ships.

I scuttled Talbot, no way she would survive...don't want to lose the Captain.

Not everybody plays the meta game so to speak...NJP plays in a big flowing and fast method.

RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:41 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: mind_messing

I am liking your use of the USAAF fighters in the anti-shipping role. Makes me feel justified in training LowNav on my fighter pilots as a matter of course.

They've been pretty nifty for naval point defence and when mixed with the dive bombers it really can stretch early war IJ CAP.

I think I've played Japan too much, as IJ low level attacks tend to get mauled by flak. When it's the Allies attacking at low level, it seems much more effective.
I train low attack for fighters as well - as much to increase defensive skill as anything. It's not common, but I have seen strafing by .50 cal mgs result in an "explosion" after hull penetration followed by minor fire. Every hit has potential to get a good damage roll.

RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:43 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Lowpe

SSTs can't load troops at Christmas Island...need a larger port to un-gray out the area. I have the option at Pearl for example. So for now the SSTs will carry supplies to our CAT bases.
Can that SST be used with the "Pick Up Troops" option? I.E. does it become available after you set "Troop Transport" as the mission?

RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:08 pm
by Alfred
ORIGINAL: Lowpe


...SSTs can't load troops at Christmas Island...need a larger port to un-gray out the area. I have the option at Pearl for example. So for now the SSTs will carry supplies to our CAT bases...




Not the only relevant factor. Presence of enemy air is also a factor. Enemy air is not just the KB, a Glen on a submarine is also enemy air.

Alfred

RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:00 am
by Lowpe
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

SSTs can't load troops at Christmas Island...need a larger port to un-gray out the area. I have the option at Pearl for example. So for now the SSTs will carry supplies to our CAT bases.
Can that SST be used with the "Pick Up Troops" option? I.E. does it become available after you set "Troop Transport" as the mission?


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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:19 am
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: Lowpe

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

SSTs can't load troops at Christmas Island...need a larger port to un-gray out the area. I have the option at Pearl for example. So for now the SSTs will carry supplies to our CAT bases.
Can that SST be used with the "Pick Up Troops" option? I.E. does it become available after you set "Troop Transport" as the mission?


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Try just one sub in the TF, not two subs.

RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:27 am
by Lowpe
Hmmm[&o]



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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:29 am
by Lowpe
Joy. If they load.[;)]

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:30 am
by Lowpe
Nice ships, even have radar.

I enjoy using IJ SSTs, despite most JFBs loathing them.



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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:55 am
by Lowpe
Only 5 subs left to upgrade....keeping up with all of them is interesting.

I see I get another chance in April of 43 to convert Clemsons to DE...not needed then, I wonder if the option to convert DE back to DD exist around then?



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