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Sertorius21 wrote: Sun Sep 28, 2025 1:05 pm - allocating the corps to other armies and spread as much as possible, even if this means they need to support much more than their 27 or 36 point quota, with a loss of efficiency.

Be aware, that you shall not have any HQs over their CP capacity when it comes to ASSAULT HQs (maybe someone can elaborate/add if on Axis side this also applies to the Army Group the ASSAULT Army HQ is attached to ....or(if true) if it also applies to other Armies in that Army Group).

Sertorius21 wrote: Sun Sep 28, 2025 1:05 pm - having the former 11th Army corps report directly into the new Army Group

You can try figuring it out yourself, I have made a calculator for Roll Chances. Just added the CP over cap, so you can test if you like to.
Just insert the yellow fields and read the green fields (I suggest making your own copy of the whole sheet).

Thanks, Wiedrock. I just downloaded it. I already have the original.

Do you use these spreadsheets for actual play, or just to better visualize concepts? (just curious)

Wiedrock wrote: Mon Sep 29, 2025 2:29 am

Sertorius21 wrote: Sun Sep 28, 2025 1:05 pm - allocating the corps to other armies and spread as much as possible, even if this means they need to support much more than their 27 or 36 point quota, with a loss of efficiency.

Be aware, that you shall not have any HQs over their CP capacity when it comes to ASSAULT HQs (maybe someone can elaborate/add if on Axis side this also applies to the Army Group the ASSAULT Army HQ is attached to ....or(if true) if it also applies to other Armies in that Army Group).

Sertorius21 wrote: Sun Sep 28, 2025 1:05 pm - having the former 11th Army corps report directly into the new Army Group

You can try figuring it out yourself, I have made a calculator for Roll Chances. Just added the CP over cap, so you can test if you like to.
Just insert the yellow fields and read the green fields (I suggest making your own copy of the whole sheet).

Thanks, I definitely need to avoid overloading my Assault HQs, which I gleefully did for a couple of turns during the summer.

Thanks also for your calculator. I am not sure if an army group substitutes itself to an army if corps are attached to it? If not, I had better find some other people to report directly into the army group, so that the troops of 11th Army continue to benefit from optimal command.

MarkShot wrote: Mon Sep 29, 2025 6:04 am Thanks, Wiedrock. I just downloaded it. I already have the original.

Do you use these spreadsheets for actual play, or just to better visualize concepts? (just curious)

Sure, on Soviet side I was missing Fronts and I needed to figure out how it'd end up if I'd use the Caucasus M.D. to attach 2 Armies to it. My calculator tells me it's beneficial even with 150 or so Hexes distance to the Front, even when using the best possible divisior of 20 for STAVKA (I am not sure what happens to the divisors, the "Command Structure Values", if you leave out one HQ...that's not described in the Manual, so it's anything possible between 20 and 80...).

Sertorius21 wrote: Mon Sep 29, 2025 6:07 pm I am not sure if an army group substitutes itself to an army if corps are attached to it? If not, I had better find some other people to report directly into the army group, so that the troops of 11th Army continue to benefit from optimal command.

Not 100% sure if I can follow. But what you want to avoid is direct attachment of a CU to an Army Group.
If you attach an Corps to an Army Group it should be alright, but then I again do not know the exact math (see what I replied to Mark) since one HQ is missing in the chain.

Another thing you may want to take into account is the Combad Battle Modifiers, depending on how you operate/organize the units in your case.

Clear, even if the situation I have in mind is not one described in the numerous examples. I think it should work with a small malus, nothing too bad, as the two corps would belong to the same army group, albeit one through an army and the other one attached directly.

Sertorius21 wrote: Tue Sep 30, 2025 1:26 pm Clear, even if the situation I have in mind is not one described in the numerous examples. I think it should work with a small malus, nothing too bad, as the two corps would belong to the same army group, albeit one through an army and the other one attached directly.

Yep I have only give some of the 100s combinations possible. The higher HQ dictates the number. Your example should be:
CU-Co-3-A-5-AG-5-Co-CU, so 13% when mixing the HQs in battle..

Not such a terrible malus then!