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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:32 am
by trees
I can't recal ever seeing a cardboard version of a New Zealand TERRitorial ???

RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:42 am
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: trees

I can't recal ever seeing a cardboard version of a New Zealand TERRitorial ???
Countersheet 23, Africa Aflame.

RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:15 am
by trees
imagine that, I must have lost one of what, 6,000 some counters? thankfully we have computers nowadays.

RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:43 am
by Froonp
ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: trees
I can't recal ever seeing a cardboard version of a New Zealand TERRitorial ???
Countersheet 23, Africa Aflame.
I'd say CS14 (CS23 is Mech in Flames -- MiF) [:D].

RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:36 am
by jesperpehrson
*swoons*

Adam just sent me a lot of Russian write-ups. I am still to read them all but golly it feels like x-mas! [&o][&o]

RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:44 am
by jesperpehrson
A submission of my own to rest your eyes on for a while :-)

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 12:26 pm
by iamspamus
Um, weren't para's (say a div or smaller unit) used against Eban Emael, the Belgian fortress in the open shots of 1940? I really don't remember Crete being the first use of them. Naybe Crete should be the first "large scale use" of German paras.

Thanks,
Jason
ORIGINAL: capitan

A submission of my own to rest your eyes on for a while :-)

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 12:46 pm
by jesperpehrson
ORIGINAL: iamspamus

Um, weren't para's (say a div or smaller unit) used against Eban Emael, the Belgian fortress in the open shots of 1940? I really don't remember Crete being the first use of them. Naybe Crete should be the first "large scale use" of German paras.

Thanks,
Jason

Good point. This will be corrected. I believe that it was way smaller than a division that overtook Eban Emael though. I will check out the details.

EDIT: "10 May 1940, 85 paratroopers of the 1st Fallschirmjäger Division landed in the fortress with gliders" http://www.answers.com/topic/fort-eben-emael

RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 12:56 pm
by michaelbaldur
they also dropped in aalborg and in norway .....

RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:18 pm
by jesperpehrson
ORIGINAL: michaelbaldur

they also dropped in aalborg and in norway .....

Noted.

I changed the text per Iamspamus suggestion with "large scale drops"

There is one unit called "Air landing". Does anyone know what the real-life equivalent would be? I would have guessed the "Hermann Görings Paradropping Panzers" (TM ;-) ) but there is one of those already as an ARM Div (even if in the original 1995 version of the game that division was ARM with paradropping capabilities or somesuch). Advise welcomed.

RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:28 pm
by Froonp
Air Landing ?
I don't see it in the MWiF countermix. From which year ? Which country ?

RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:51 pm
by jesperpehrson
Hmm I was not actually looking at the countermix but at the unit-list that I work with (#2510). It is German and I do not see the year on the list.

RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 5:01 pm
by composer99
Isn't the "air landing" unit the mountain division that can paradrop if it goes along for the ride with a paratrooper corps or division? Germany and the CW have them.

RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 5:32 pm
by Jimm
It is an interesting omission from the game in general, given that such a large proportion of airborne forces in the war were actually glider-borne. Would potentially just be a cheap, 1-use air unit which would have to be used with a towing LND.


RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:34 pm
by Froonp
ORIGINAL: composer99

Isn't the "air landing" unit the mountain division that can paradrop if it goes along for the ride with a paratrooper corps or division? Germany and the CW have them.
Yes, this must be it.
It is an interesting omission from the game in general, given that such a large proportion of airborne forces in the war were actually glider-borne. Would potentially just be a cheap, 1-use air unit which would have to be used with a towing LND.

Indeed, they are in the game, they are precisely this unit that Capitan talked about.
They need to have a PARA that goes along them for the ride and cannot be dropped alone.

RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:46 pm
by jesperpehrson
Ok good. So I will look at any operations that used gliders instead of just ordinary paratroopers? (like Eben Emael)

RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:16 pm
by jesperpehrson
Two more writeups coming up. The first one is one of Jimms fine works

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:17 pm
by jesperpehrson
Next is a German CAV from yours truly

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:35 am
by paulderynck
Air Landing refers to glider borne AFAIK.

RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:27 pm
by iamspamus
I think that air landing were used in Norway. Basically the paras drop in and take an airfield. Then the transport planes fly in dropping off the airlanding units who are more robust and they expand the control zone allowing other types of troop and such in.

That's as far as I can remember.

Jason

edit - It could have been gliders.


ORIGINAL: capitan
ORIGINAL: michaelbaldur

they also dropped in aalborg and in norway .....

Noted.

I changed the text per Iamspamus suggestion with "large scale drops"

There is one unit called "Air landing". Does anyone know what the real-life equivalent would be? I would have guessed the "Hermann Görings Paradropping Panzers" (TM ;-) ) but there is one of those already as an ARM Div (even if in the original 1995 version of the game that division was ARM with paradropping capabilities or somesuch). Advise welcomed.