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RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:40 pm
by DuncanLang
CobraAus,
Ouch! I was hoping it would be easier. Will give it a try. Thanks!
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:33 am
by Halsey
Maybe Cobra's solution will help you out.
What he describes, I've never seen.
I always zip my files manually, to replace and overwrite, without creating new folders.
It's one of zips shortcomings.
The creation of new folders by zipping isn't always recognized as a path for some computer operating systems.
Hence, it's like the folder doesn't exist, because the OS can find it.
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:37 am
by JWE
Ouch, I hate it when things break. Anyone else having similar problems? So far, I have had none, but who knows what evil lurks ...
The CHS update; got started later than I thought, but did collect all the pieces together. A bit of resizing to be done, and a few ships need construction. Anyway, here's the sample. Still should be done in a few days. JWE
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:06 am
by Don Bowen
This could be a security issue.
If you do a folder level replace your system may not recognize the new files as belonging to you.
You can check this by accessing thru the desktop. Go to the folders using Windows Explorer and see if you can open them. If not, try accessing the properties and see if you can turn on sharing.
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:50 am
by CobraAus
hi guys a word of explanation before you go down the wrong path
the problem I have described did not happen unzipping a a set into the art dir
the missing ships in combat screens bug has always happen to me by simply copying bulk shils and sides from my own art folders into the shils and sides folders and overwriting and it only effects the shils the side art is ok
I have 11 installs for various reasons and when it happens the fault effects all 11 installs so to me something is happening in the registary
I have tried deleting all ship art out of folder and replacing- this will not work, fault persists
you have to re-install
JWE the files you are sending out are not at fault
I have asked tech support when it first happened and they had no Idea
I also looked a folder properties to see if folder was archived or read only - this did not mater
its one of those bugs that happen so rarely and is easy to fix
Cobra Aus
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:17 pm
by DuncanLang
It is the start of another week of work, so no time to play around with game now. In the meantime, I put the original Japanese art files and the new Allied art files (but not the very latest ones with the slight revisions) back in the ART folder. When I ran a turn everything was fine. When I get time, I will try various combiantions of files until I hopefully get it to work with all new art, or figure out what file is causing me a problem. More than likely, something I did is the culprit (certainly my wife would assume that). Thanks for all the help.
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:49 pm
by Lesbaker
Hi Guys I'm new to WitP, and came across this standardized art set which I must say is stunning [X(], After I zipped the the new files into the relevent folders and restarted the game I also had the same problem as duncan, on checking the content of the original JapShip_Back and JapShipShill_Transp files to the new ones I noticed that the files JnSide0000.bmp and JnShill0000.bmp were missing, on copying the files from the original folders to the new Standardized art work folders, the problem was cured.
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:15 pm
by Halsey
Nice find Les.
I've probably never had this problem because I don't delete the entire folder content.
Always overwrite it.[;)]
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:55 pm
by JWE
ORIGINAL: Halsey
Nice find Les.
I've probably never had this problem because I don't delete the entire folder content.
Always overwrite it.[;)]
Never thought of that; I overwrite too. Okey dokey, I'll put a bogus '0000' in all subsequent folders; and I'll remember this little glitch. Thanks, Les.
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:59 pm
by JWE
Alright, the update. Grafiks done except for a couple odd-balls. Sample below. I'll post the following on the main forum and on El Cid's sub forum. This is all I need for closure.
The Type-1 landing ship is clearly the Matsu APD conversion, but I cannot find a suitable reference to a Type-ES LST. Is this the Type-Ha??
Also, what is the Taijo Torakku (AG); obviously a barge of some kind, but a description would be very nice.
The Choyo Maru is listed as an AP, with an old CHS grafik of a near seas ferry? I can find 2 Choyo’s, and both are cargo vessels. Wtfo??
Any help is vastly appreciated. A grafik is perfect; an official ijn designation is just as good. For the Choyo, any reference to a similar class member is fine; her builder and launch year is also good; if none of the above, then her operating company. For our Japanese members, you can send in either Kanji or Katakana.
I want every Japanese ship image to adequately reflect the vessel for which she is named. Call it due respect for a formidable adversary, now a fast friend. Responses can also be PM’d or sent to my email at
jw.eldredge@cox.net Thank you.
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:52 pm
by Don Bowen
ORIGINAL: JWE
Alright, the update. Grafiks done except for a couple odd-balls. Sample below. I'll post the following on the main forum and on El Cid's sub forum. This is all I need for closure.
The Type-1 landing ship is clearly the Matsu APD conversion, but I cannot find a suitable reference to a Type-ES LST. Is this the Type-Ha??
The Type-1 landing ship was a special built fast transport for supply of isolated garrisons. Do not know if it's design is based on the
Matsu. Ships were numbered, beginning with T-1.
Good data at:
http://warships.web4u.cz/lode.php?langu ... &trida=T+1
The Type ES was the first Japanese LST. The first two were originally Army ships and were named
Koryu Maru and
Banryu Maru. Taken over by the Navy and more built, names changed to SS-n. Data on them at the above link, too.
Also, what is the Taijo Torakku (AG); obviously a barge of some kind, but a description would be very nice.
These were the type SD Steel Sea Trucks. See N583-Far Eastern Small Craft, page 86. CHS details came from somewhere else (another team member did the research) but memory is the second thing to go.
These were actually small merchant men, were named (with Maru suffix) and there were a lot of them. They were made into AG in CHS so they could respawn and 25 or so numbered ships used (slot limitations).
The Choyo Maru is listed as an AP, with an old CHS grafik of a near seas ferry? I can find 2 Choyo’s, and both are cargo vessels. Wtfo??
Memory fails on this one. I guess there is an outside chance it could be a mistreeek.
Don
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:04 am
by Dixie
ORIGINAL: JWE
Alright, the update. Grafiks done except for a couple odd-balls. Sample below. I'll post the following on the main forum and on El Cid's sub forum. This is all I need for closure.
The Type-1 landing ship is clearly the Matsu APD conversion, but I cannot find a suitable reference to a Type-ES LST. Is this the Type-Ha??
Also, what is the Taijo Torakku (AG); obviously a barge of some kind, but a description would be very nice.
The Choyo Maru is listed as an AP, with an old CHS grafik of a near seas ferry? I can find 2 Choyo’s, and both are cargo vessels. Wtfo??
Any help is vastly appreciated. A grafik is perfect; an official ijn designation is just as good. For the Choyo, any reference to a similar class member is fine; her builder and launch year is also good; if none of the above, then her operating company. For our Japanese members, you can send in either Kanji or Katakana.
I want every Japanese ship image to adequately reflect the vessel for which she is named. Call it due respect for a formidable adversary, now a fast friend. Responses can also be PM’d or sent to my email at
jw.eldredge@cox.net Thank you.
I have a pic of the type T-1 APD, but it's not scaled. I'll rescale it if no-one has a better version to use.
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:19 am
by akdreemer
ORIGINAL: JWE
Alright, the update. Grafiks done except for a couple odd-balls. Sample below. I'll post the following on the main forum and on El Cid's sub forum. This is all I need for closure.
The Type-1 landing ship is clearly the Matsu APD conversion, but I cannot find a suitable reference to a Type-ES LST. Is this the Type-Ha??
Also, what is the Taijo Torakku (AG); obviously a barge of some kind, but a description would be very nice.
The Choyo Maru is listed as an AP, with an old CHS grafik of a near seas ferry? I can find 2 Choyo’s, and both are cargo vessels. Wtfo??
Any help is vastly appreciated. A grafik is perfect; an official ijn designation is just as good. For the Choyo, any reference to a similar class member is fine; her builder and launch year is also good; if none of the above, then her operating company. For our Japanese members, you can send in either Kanji or Katakana.
I want every Japanese ship image to adequately reflect the vessel for which she is named. Call it due respect for a formidable adversary, now a fast friend. Responses can also be PM’d or sent to my email at
jw.eldredge@cox.net Thank you.
I think this might help also for the Japanese Amphib craft:
http://www.akdreemer.com/ahs/Library/LST-APD-LC-JAP.pdf
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:27 am
by undercovergeek
is this latest template for stock or is it CHS, sorry to ask, i am away from my main PC where the new updates have been downloaded to
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:05 pm
by JWE
It does. Thanks. I knew about the T-1 and have a copy of the design drawings (apparently same as in the article). I was confused about who was properly what, till I got Don Bowens response above. Got everything wired now. Your article makes interesting reading. Thank you very much for the file.
JWE
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:12 am
by JWE
OK then, finished. The T-1 is indeed the Matsu hull with boiler room #1 removed to make room for troops, and the stern cut down; hosts 4 landing craft off stern. The Type-ES, I decided to do as a nominal Type-HA. For the Keijo Torakku, I used the Type-E, since that was the most ubiquitous. Choyo Maru is off a 290' engines aft hull that was fairly common; noted both in Takao and Manila in '44 by US Recon. Samples below.
Now for the Side'n and Shil'n
JWE
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:16 am
by TOMLABEL
ORIGINAL: JWE
OK then, finished. The T-1 is indeed the Matsu hull with boiler room #1 removed to make room for troops, and the stern cut down; hosts 4 landing craft off stern. The Type-ES, I decided to do as a nominal Type-HA. For the Keijo Torakku, I used the Type-E, since that was the most ubiquitous. Choyo Maru is off a 290' engines aft hull that was fairly common; noted both in Takao and Manila in '44 by US Recon. Samples below.
Now for the Side'n and Shil'n
JWE
Very nice work, indeed, JWE!
TOMLABEL
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:11 pm
by JWE
Well, here they are; finally finished. This is CHS Panel 2. Sides and Shils have been sent to Monsieur le Spooky. The package includes "all" of the Japanese art, Stock is the numbers up to 0165, CHS is everything beyond. Only one thing needs to be done to the db for them both to play together. Instructions in the top of the zip folder.
JWE
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:02 am
by Tanaka
ORIGINAL: JWE
Well, here they are; finally finished. This is CHS Panel 2. Sides and Shils have been sent to Monsieur le Spooky. The package includes "all" of the Japanese art, Stock is the numbers up to 0165, CHS is everything beyond. Only one thing needs to be done to the db for them both to play together. Instructions in the top of the zip folder.
JWE
Fantastic! Cant wait! [:D]
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:44 am
by Reg
ORIGINAL: JWE
ORIGINAL: Halsey
Nice find Les.
I've probably never had this problem because I don't delete the entire folder content.
Always overwrite it.[;)]
Never thought of that; I overwrite too. Okey dokey, I'll put a bogus '0000' in all subsequent folders; and I'll remember this little glitch. Thanks, Les.
Nice catch Lesbaker!! [&o] [:D] [:D]
Can someone record this tip for posterity. Where would it be best kept? FAQ, Wiki, sticky thread etc...