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RE: Reverse 4-player AAR.

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:16 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: peskpesk
ORIGINAL: warspite1

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A nice win for the Germans, but why no port strike? The choice could cost many Axis subs thiers life, inorder to get the same result at sea.
Now like to see what the allies will respond with. Thier TRS status is not so good, they could any way send a army and division to Rotterdam, right?
warspite1

Well there seems to be two possibilities here:

a) I don't know what I'm doing
b) I had 4 rebases. I wanted all 4 (I actually needed 5) and Italy wanted 1 - so that left me with 3. Yes I could have strat bombed and/or I could have port struck. And I could also have left 2 Stukas and a fighter miles from the front line. If the turn continued and my subsequent attacks stalled because of a lack of aircraft I'd no doubt be questioned over that too.

The game is about choices - but I appear once again to have made the wrong one?? Although I don't know how I was supposed to know the turn would end (10% chance) or that I would definitely have hit the TRS (no idea on the odds).

Ho hum.... It looks like the answer is (a)

RE: Reverse 4-player AAR.

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:54 am
by Jagdtiger14
or that I would definitely have hit the TRS (no idea on the odds).

There was no TRS in Netherlands according to set up in post #247 which mentions its in Dutch Guyana.

I never port strike Dutch naval units because the TRS is never there. Cp's are interesting, but only 2? And, I try to over-run the naval units anyway with an invasion.



RE: Reverse 4-player AAR.

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:04 am
by AllenK
No partisans appear.

Where would the Germans like to place their Pact chits? Offence or defence?

RE: Reverse 4-player AAR.

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:08 am
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: AllenK

No partisans appear.

Where would the Germans like to place their Pact chits? Offence or defence?
warsite1

Partisans: correct
Chits: 2 x Offensive for the Germans please

RE: Reverse 4-player AAR.

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:20 am
by AllenK
USSR puts its chit into defence.

US adds a chit to the Ge/It pool. No entry options taken.


RE: Reverse 4-player AAR.

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:39 am
by warspite1
The German Army undergoes further refinements and reorganisation:

Jan/Feb 1940

Case Yellow (Zentralle)


Army Group B – General Ritter von Leeb (Holland)

18th Army (von Kuchler)

XLVIII Panzer Corps
XLIII Infantry Corps
HG Panzer Division

6th Army (von Reichenau)

I Infantry Corps
XLVI Mechanised Corps
1st Artillery Division (150mm)

Army Group Reserves

XXVI Infantry Corps

Luftwaffe (Supporting Army Groups A, B and C)


Luftflotte 1
4 x Fighters:
JG1 (Bf-109 E1 (4,*,1,*(3))
JG2 (Bf-109 E4 (5,*,2,*(3))
JG3 (Bf-109 E2 (5,*,*,*(3))
JG4 (Bf-109 E2 (5,*,2,*(3))

1 x Fighter-Bomber
ZG1 (Bf-110c (3,1,3,*(5))

6 x Bombers:
KG1 (He-111 H3 (1,*,3,3(5e))
KG2 (Ju-88 A1 (3,*,4,3(5e))
KG3 (Ju-88 A1 (2,*,4,3(5e))
KG4 (Do-17M (2,*,2,2(5))
StG1 (Ju-87B 1,*,5,1(3))
StG2 (Ju-87B 1,1,5,1(3))

Army Group A – General Gerd von Rundstedt (Rheinland)

4th Army (von Kluge)
LXXI Infantry Corps
VII (SS) Infantry Corps
1st Motorised AA Division (88mm)

12th Army (List)
VIII Mechanised Corps
VII Motorised Corps
1st Engineer Division

Army Group Reserves
VI Infantry Corps
1st Anti-tank Division (50mm)
1st Panzerjaeger Division
14th (SS) Infantry Division

Army Group C – General Fedor von Bock

1st Army (von Kleist)
XLI Panzer Corps
XXXVII Infantry Corps
2nd Artillery Division (105mm)

16th Army (Busch)
XXX Infantry Corps
XXXXVI Motorised Corps

Army Group Reserves
LI Infantry Corps

Army Group D (Koblenz-Trier)

2nd Army (von Weichs)
LXXXVI Garrison Corps
LXXXIII Garrison Corps
LXXXVII Garrison Corps
LXXXI Garrison Corps

Army Group E (Schleswig-Holstein)


9th Army (Strauss)

XXXVIII Motorised Corps
LXXXV Garrison Corps

Reserve Army (Liebmann)
Berlin Militia (Magdeburg)
Kiel Militia (Kiel)

Army Group F (Poland)

11th Army (Schobert)
LXXIV Infantry Corps
XII Infantry Corps
Konigsberg Militia

17th Army (von Stulpnagel)

XXXIII Infantry Corps
LXIII Infantry Corps
XXXV Infantry Corps

Army Group Italy


3rd Army (Dollman)

XLIX Mountain Corps
3rd Infantry Division

Luftwaffe (supporting Army Group Italy)


1x Transport Group:
1st TG (Ju-52)

Kriegsmarine

Kiel
2 x Wolfpacks
Hartmann (3,6,0,0(2))
Prien (3,8,0,0(3))

Kolberg
1 x Amphibious
3 x Convoy

Rostock
2 x Convoy

Baltic Sea

3 x Convoy
Baltic Convoy Defence Force:
BB Gneisenau (Flagship Adm Marshall), PB Graf Spee and CA Blucher

Stettin
BB: Scharnhorst
PB: Deutschland
CA: Admiral Hipper
OBB: Schliesen, Schleswig Holstein
1 x Transport
3 x Convoy

Luftwaffe (Supporting Baltic Defence Force)

Kustenfliegergruppe
1st CC (He-115c)






RE: Reverse 4-player AAR.

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:42 pm
by warspite1
Right I am away from the computer for the next few hours. If he comes on line, Ormster has instructions for the end of turn, production etc but I would like to be involved in the next turn so please take no actions involving Germany.

RE: Reverse 4-player AAR.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:51 am
by warspite1
These are the German End of Turn orders. Thank-you.

Germany - End of Turn

Two offensive Chits

Save two oil previously being saved to Breslau in Berlin

Stay at Sea:
Gneisenau, Graf Spee, Blucher

Return to Base:
Scharnhorst, Deutschland, Hipper to Stettin

Oil Reorganisation:
Reorganise all using Dresden oil for 1 oil

Production (16)
2 x Pilot (4)
NAV (3)
ATR (3)
Naval Repair Scheer (1)
CAV DIV (2)
INF (3)

Scrap
1 x 3-range submarine
2 x Ju-86G

Replacements
Gneisenau: Say No

Lending Resources:
5 resources to Italy in total of which 2 are oil.

RE: Reverse 4-player AAR.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:22 am
by Orm
Nov/Dec 1939
Japanese and Italian End of Turn orders

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Italy save oil in Milan.

Japan save two oil in Tokyo and one in Kyoto (producing for 14 resources).

Kaga and Tone stay at sea in the South China Sea.

Italian submarine return to La Spezia.

Japanese SCS return to Tokyo.

Italy reorganize the Celere MOT, submarine, and the cruiser San Giorgio for a cost of 0 oil.

Japan reorganize all units for a total cost of 1 oil.

Production:
Italy (2):
NAV2

Japan (10):
3 x MIL
PIL
Save 2 BP in Tokyo

Italy remove the BA.65 to the reserve pool.


RE: Reverse 4-player AAR.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:26 pm
by Mayhemizer_slith
TURN END (USSR and France)

PRELIM PRODUCTION
France is good, Iraqi oil is saved to Syria and another oil is used to production. (Production is 7)
USSR saves one oil to Alma Ata. (Production 8)

STAY AT SEA AND RTB
All CP's stays at sea.
French CA in Baltic sea stays at sea.
French CA in West Med box 3 stays at sea, BB Provence in box 2 stays at sea. Remaining fleet in West Med returns to Marseilles.
CA's in CSV and East Med stays at sea.
TRS in CSV returns to St-Nazaire. CA in CSV box 0 returns to Marseilles (even if Italian sub can intercept it).
Submarine in Italian coast returns to Marseilles.

USSR TRS returns to Sevastopol.


USE OIL
USSR reorganizes all (1 oil from resource)
France reorganizes all but CA Duguay, CA Algerie, CA Primaguet, BB Lorraine, BB Dunkerque and BB Jean Bart (Damascus oil first, saving oil in Bayonne). I had trouble getting this right. First reorganize units that can use Damascus oil until that oil is used.


BREAK DOWN
USSR breaks down INF in Odessa into 2-3 INF div and 1-4 MOT div


PRODUCTION

France (7)
MECH
MIL

USSR (8)
Pilot
2x INF


REINFORCEMENTS

France assigns pilot to Potez.
MIL somewhere
FTR3 to Lille

USSR
2x INF to Sevastopol
GAR to Odessa
Remove pilot from I-16 in Odessa

RE: Reverse 4-player AAR.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:39 pm
by AllenK
ORIGINAL: Orm

Kaga and Tone stay at sea in the South China Sea.

Japanese SCS return to Tokyo.


Just checking, what did you want to do with the Hiryo? Is it staying at sea with the others or returning to Tokyo?

RE: Reverse 4-player AAR.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:01 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: AllenK

ORIGINAL: Orm

Kaga and Tone stay at sea in the South China Sea.

Japanese SCS return to Tokyo.


Just checking, what did you want to do with the Hiryo? Is it staying at sea with the others or returning to Tokyo?
warspite1

Ormster is not around so I will respond. Please return to Tokyo with the others.

RE: Reverse 4-player AAR.

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:07 pm
by AllenK
Various CW escorts in Biscay, CSV and North Atlantic stay at sea plus pickets in North Sea and Faeroe's Gap. TRANS with MOT in North Sea returns to Calais. TRANS in Cape Verde returns to Plymouth. Units in West Med return to Gib and BB's in North Sea return to Plymouth. Other ships from Biscay return to Liverpool.

US returns TRANS and MacArthur to Pago Pago.

CW reorganises all (4.1) for 4 oil points.

US reorgs all (0.2) for 0 oil points.

China (5) builds MTN and CAV div.

CW scraps Blenhein I.

Production (9): MIL, Pilot x2, CA repair, FTR-2.

USA (11): AMPH, GARR, TRANS, CV repair, Pilot.

Netherlands conquered by Germany. A CA and CP escape to the UK. A CP is captured and the rest destroyed.

CW scraps Wellesley.

MILS to Batavia and Bombay. CA to Liverpool. INF to Cape Town.

French MIL arrives in Dakar.

US INF Div to San Diego.

B-18 to reserve pool.

Initiative: Axis 5, Allies 8. Do the Axis wish to re-roll?


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RE: Reverse 4-player AAR.

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:10 pm
by warspite1
Yes please

RE: Reverse 4-player AAR.

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:12 pm
by warspite1
Where did the French unit being transported go to?

RE: Reverse 4-player AAR.

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:16 pm
by AllenK
St. Nazaire.

The re-rolled initiative result is decisive: Axis 9, Allies 1. Do the Axis wish to bat first for this innings?

RE: Reverse 4-player AAR.

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:18 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: AllenK

St. Nazaire.

The re-rolled initiative result is decisive: Axis 9, Allies 1. Do the Axis wish to bat first for this innings?
warspite1

When replying to that question think Team America: World Police.

Initiative: **** Yeah!



RE: Reverse 4-player AAR.

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:25 pm
by AllenK
So frightfully colonial.

The Allies respectfully hand the tiller over to the Axis in order for them to pursue their bothersome misadventures.

RE: Reverse 4-player AAR.

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:29 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: AllenK

So frightfully colonial.

The Allies respectfully hand the tiller over to the Axis in order for them to pursue their bothersome misadventures.
warspite1

Apologies old boy, I don't know quite what came over me.... oh hold on - I'm supposed to be German

RE: Reverse 4-player AAR.

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:50 pm
by AllenK
Before play gets underway, a look at the weather.

In the main arena:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXatLOWjr-k

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