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RE: Soviet GT 17
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:30 am
by SparkleyTits
Brilliant!
RE: Soviet GT 17
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:39 am
by tyronec
I hope Grognard will be able to hold off the Sudden Death conditions so we would see an interesting blizzard season!
If Sudden death were applied Axis is 4VP above the threshold, the condition is only tested 1st week of April.
RE: Soviet GT 17
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:49 pm
by SparkleyTits
Ah I did not know that Tyronec, so in that case Grognard is definitely going to get the chance to retake it all in winter and if successful that means he will be fine until the next check in april 43?
RE: Soviet GT 17
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:07 pm
by Sammy5IsAlive
ORIGINAL: SparkleyTits
Ah I did not know that Tyronec, so in that case Grognard is definitely going to get the chance to retake it all in winter and if successful that means he will be fine until the next check in april 43?
Half right I reckon - Grognard will have the chance to retake ground in winter and avoid the April 42 sudden death condition. But in summer 42 he'll have to stop the Axis from getting to 260VPs (I'd imagine the game would have to be on a real knife edge for him to avoid this and still be at risk of losing on the April 43 check which is 255VPs I think).
RE: Soviet GT 17
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:35 am
by Grognard1812
Yes, you are correct.
The 1941-1945 Sudden Death campaign is a variant of the Alt VC 260 scenario.
Like the Alt VC 260 scenario, if at any time in the game the Axis player has 260 Victory points the game ends
immediately as an Axis victory.
Presently in our game Tyronec has 246 Victory points. Each Heavy Urban hex is 5 VP, each Light Urban hex is 3 VP
and each city is 1 VP.
Then there are three sudden death victory checks on the first turn of April 1942, April 1943 and April 1944 where
if the Axis player has the following number of VP the game ends immediately as an Axis victory
April 1942 - 242 Victory points
April 1943 - 255
April 1944 - 210
Soviet GT 18
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:40 am
by Grognard1812
At the beginning of GT 18 air recon showed that there were no Axis forces east of Soviet breakthrough north of
Tombov, except for a few fortified hexes.
As forecast the weather was mud.

RE: Soviet GT 18
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:48 am
by Grognard1812
The situation in the Voronezh area at the end of GT 18. Only a narrow supply corridor remains open to the
German units. The weather graphics were turned off.
The forecast for next turn is mud again.

RE: Soviet GT 18
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:48 pm
by Balou
Whow....

RE: Soviet GT 18
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:39 pm
by HardLuckYetAgain
ORIGINAL: Balou
Whow....
I don't think it is a knockout punch. It has potential but the next few turns will tell since both are capable players. Looking forward to the next update.
RE: Soviet GT 18
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:14 pm
by Crackaces
is this +1 Soviet attack?
RE: Soviet GT 18
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:22 pm
by SparkleyTits
I imagine in most cases of this happening it would be stablised by costing time, energy and a bit of wear and tear but ultimately it is really going to hamper the blizzard prep
Could easily be the difference between being in control and losing control over winter
Looking forward to seeing how they both react to this!
RE: Soviet GT 18
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:04 pm
by HardLuckYetAgain
ORIGINAL: Crackaces
is this +1 Soviet attack?
I believe that would be a no to the +1 Soviet attack.
RE: Soviet GT 18
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:07 pm
by HardLuckYetAgain
ORIGINAL: SparkleyTits
I imagine in most cases of this happening it would be stablised by costing time, energy and a bit of wear and tear but ultimately it is really going to hamper the blizzard prep
Could easily be the difference between being in control and losing control over winter
Looking forward to seeing how they both react to this!
I believe you are spot on on your assessment. Defiantly will have to get out the munchies and drinks for this one.

RE: Soviet GT 18
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:29 pm
by Balou
ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
ORIGINAL: Balou
Whow....
I don't think it is a knockout punch.
Not now, agreed. But that many troops that far east caught flat footed and probably without beeing properly supplied will disrupt preparations for winter.
Best solution would be to fly Gen. Paulus in [;)].
RE: Soviet GT 18
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:36 pm
by HardLuckYetAgain
ORIGINAL: Balou
ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
ORIGINAL: Balou
Whow....
I don't think it is a knockout punch.
Not now, agreed. But that many troops that far east caught flat footed and probably without beeing properly supplied will disrupt preparations for winter.
Best solution would be to fly Gen. Paulus in [;)].
Oh, I agree. This game has been ratcheted up for sure. Both are very good players so that is why I'm watching this one with keen eyes. Should be some fun times ahead

RE: Soviet GT 18
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:52 pm
by tyronec
I imagine in most cases of this happening it would be stablised by costing time, energy and a bit of wear and tear but ultimately it is really going to hamper the blizzard prep
Could easily be the difference between being in control and losing control over winter
Looking forward to seeing how they both react to this!
Which sides blizzard prep do you think is being hampered ?
RE: Soviet GT 18
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:03 pm
by HardLuckYetAgain
ORIGINAL: tyronec
I imagine in most cases of this happening it would be stablised by costing time, energy and a bit of wear and tear but ultimately it is really going to hamper the blizzard prep
Could easily be the difference between being in control and losing control over winter
Looking forward to seeing how they both react to this!
Which sides blizzard prep do you think is being hampered ?
Who are you asking? The person that wrote what you quoted or me?
Soviet GT 19
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:28 pm
by Grognard1812
Soviet GT 19
Mud in all weather zones.
To answer an earlier question the game options are No Soviet Combat Bonus, full normal blizzard
and random weather.
The situation in the Voronezh area at the start of Soviet GT 19. The almost completely surrounded Axis units
are all in an isolated status, as they are more than 100 MP from the nearest rail supply. A narrow supply
corridor is still held open by German infantry regiments.

RE: Soviet GT 19
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:38 pm
by Grognard1812
In the Voronezh area the Red Air Force has total air superiority and Bomb unit air missions were conducted on all
the isolated German units.
A German infantry regiment was attacked and successfully forced to retreat resulting in the surrounding of the
45th German Infantry division.

RE: Soviet GT 19
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:45 pm
by Grognard1812
An attack (red arrow) was attempted against a German infantry regiment holding the narrow supply corridor,
but was unsuccessful.
