RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_SqzMyLemon_Canoerebel (A)
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:58 am
Well, that nugget of information changes my kami doctrine. Learn something new every day!
What's your Strategy?
https://forums.matrixgames.com:443/
ORIGINAL: obvert
What I was getting at here is trying to bring out more from the various posts that have been made over time.
You won't find any dev post over the years with more information or clarity on the subject than the ones I made in Mike Solli's AAR.
This game does allow the player to choose the bomb load of many planes and situations (choosing torpedoes vs bombs, choosing normal vs extended range, getting 80+ exp pilots in to drop bigger bombs, altitude choice, etc). It's therefore somewhat odd and arbitrary why the devs would have wanted to "hide" what kamis carried from the player.
No one with knowledge of the subject has ever said that
- mission ordnance
- range
- size of ordnance
is taken into account in determining whether a hit results. Nor has anyone ever said anything about altitude operating differently for kamikazes than it does for other mission types. So how does any of this amount to devs hiding information.[/I][/color]
What does it matter? Why not just say that there is a bigger boom from a bigger plane? that makes perfect sense, and wouldn't change much about how (smart) players set up their kami strikes. There is no exploit there, no game balance issue, nothing to "hide." So why the mystery? [;)]
Why do you think I nor any dev haven't said that.
I agree a hit is primary. No argument there. I've had success flying FP kamis and Judy kamis with 800kg bombs. Again, that is some of what I'm trying to squeeze out.
Maybe the greatest concern in an effective kami is a good pilot with expert defensive and low naval bombing skills.
Second might be plane speed and manoeuvre ratings.
Third might be airframe durability and armor.
I've already posted what are the factors to look for.
So does the bomb load matter? Sounds like not. So why then research the myriad of 800kg bomb carrying late war planes, most of which don't have a good speed/manoeuvre/durability combo? I've decided already there is no reason. I can convert almost any group to either F/FB/MB and therefore get a good combo of fast and either durable or manoeuvrable airframes to use.
What it would be good to know is how much bigger a boom an airframe type would produce so I could better choose which of the good airframes I know will more often get a hit to dedicate to my low volume kami strikes and which to keep in their day jobs. That's all really.
Tough, you've been playing this game long enough to know that the devs have never in any area of game activity provided such detail. The idea of reducing AE to just a spread sheet has never been the intention of the devs.
ORIGINAL: mind_messing
You get a respectible level of damamge from every kami hit, regarding if it's big or not.





It wasn’t a big strike, but surprisingly good results after all is said and done, although there was some damage. The Ki-100-II factory is now at 0(20). This is the first significant air production damage of the war. I might just rebuild it, but I’ll wait to see how much the Allies can force their will over Northern Honshu.

ORIGINAL: mind_messing
It wasn’t a big strike, but surprisingly good results after all is said and done, although there was some damage. The Ki-100-II factory is now at 0(20). This is the first significant air production damage of the war. I might just rebuild it, but I’ll wait to see how much the Allies can force their will over Northern Honshu.
Nope, that's a mistake IMO. 20,000 supply that could potentially be bombed again next month. Absolutely not worth it for as meagre an airframe as the Tony. If it was the jets or the late war stuff I'd say go for it, but IMO save the supply.
ORIGINAL: obvert
ORIGINAL: mind_messing
It wasn’t a big strike, but surprisingly good results after all is said and done, although there was some damage. The Ki-100-II factory is now at 0(20). This is the first significant air production damage of the war. I might just rebuild it, but I’ll wait to see how much the Allies can force their will over Northern Honshu.
Nope, that's a mistake IMO. 20,000 supply that could potentially be bombed again next month. Absolutely not worth it for as meagre an airframe as the Tony. If it was the jets or the late war stuff I'd say go for it, but IMO save the supply.
I hear that. It all depends on how well I'm defending. "Re-bombed" doesn't mean a free run at it. In a month I might be eve better prepared to get to the Allied bombers. Or the P-47N could be could be slicing and dicing. I wan to wait to see f rebuilding is worth it. The Ki-100-II isn't bad now, and if I do rebuild I could always switch to the Frank. [;)]



