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RE: Burma Bungle!
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:03 am
by Lowpe
ORIGINAL: Spidery
Do you plan to use the A6M5d-S to resize navy groups?
The evidence here is very clear: size 18 air groups just aren't as effective as larger groups. However, size 81 Irving-s will break the game in my opinion, even if broken into thirds. Compromise size 36 to 42?
So part of me screams Heck, Yes! No doubt! While the other part says no. I am conflicted and will need to broach the subject with the Allies.
RE: Burma Bungle!
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:55 am
by obvert
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
With the advent of Night Fighter production, I thought I would review Obvert's builds.
This is from the end of the war, so I have no idea how many factories were destroyed that built these planes:
Irving-S: 235
Irving Sa: 349
Frances S: 119
Nick KAId: 36
Dinah III KAI: 314
Zero -S: 249
Judy-S 2
I think that is it. He had small pools of Irving left (around 30), 100 plus Zeroes, and 60 Frances at the end.
Obvert seemed to rely upon the Dinah as the Army NF; and complains bitterly about its poor performance, inability to keep squadrons filled, and poor kills total.
I have devoted a much bigger share of the industry to NF; and should be able to keep my squadrons filled at least until the factories are bombed.
My goal is simply to delay the destruction and make it as costly to the Allies as possible. If I can do this, then my large investment in night fighters will pay off.
Yep, the Dinah KAI is theoretically going to be good against the B-29 due to it's speed, but the lack of armor and no radar inhibits it I think.
He targeted the Dinah factories late, and I hadn't started the Nick early enough or in enough numbers to make a difference. Some of the other factories were hit as well, either through direct targeting or damage from fires after manpower strikes.
RE: Burma Bungle!
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:57 am
by koniu
I look at Navy NF units and they don`t have resize option.
I believe NF units cant be resized
RE: Burma Bungle!
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:50 am
by Lowpe
ORIGINAL: koniu
I look at Navy NF units and they don`t have resize option.
I believe NF units cant be resized
Good then. No moral hazard.[:)]
RE: Burma Bungle!
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:03 pm
by Lowpe
ORIGINAL: obvert
Yep, the Dinah KAI is theoretically going to be good against the B-29 due to it's speed, but the lack of armor and no radar inhibits it I think.
Since it lacks armor, I think all the speed does is make the Dinah's lose more planes to defensive fires without further disrupting the attack any.
Purely speculation on my part, but as a disruptive fighter the Nick can do it better with less losses and comes months and months sooner.
There are three squadrons that only upgrade to Dinahs that I can see, so I will make them and I am researching it, but Dinah is not a big choice for me if they can switch out to other NF they will.
The NF Dinah actually has a slower climb rate than the KAI Dinah F that I am using strictly at night now. Therefore, I plan on using the III KAI Dinah NF in the same manner, low altitude, low percentage CAP and see what happens.
RE: Burma Bungle!
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:40 pm
by koniu
You are playing PDU ON?
If yes , so all army NF groups can fly Dinah ony any NF model You want.
2 groups start as Dinah, some as Nick, other need to open NF line by upgrading from F, RC or MB type.
There You have all groups that can be NF. Names can be different because many of them changing names during game.
81st I.F Chutai and 82st I.F Chutai upgrading to NF by upgrading to Ki-46-III KAI Dinah
14th Sentai and 107th Sentai upgrading to NF by upgrading to Ki-109-I Peggy
5th Sentai and 4th Sentai are starting as army figters and they upgrading to Ki-45 KAId Nick
RE: Burma Bungle!
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:59 pm
by Lowpe
Koniu,
I have two more navy squadrons. One is the next to worthless Endo Detachment which removes in Sept of 43. The other might be a large squadron that goes Zero-S or Denko.
RE: Burma Bungle!
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:12 pm
by koniu
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Koniu,
I have two more navy squadrons. One is the next to worthless Endo Detachment which removes in Sept of 43. The other might be a large squadron that goes Zero-S or Denko.
I know about Endo Det but that last one is mastery for me. Have name or something?
EDIT:
I find it: Editor number 113 - Tainan Ku-S-1 (later renamed to 251 Ku S-1 and later to S-901 Hikotai), 36 size unit:) start as figter
RE: Burma Bungle!
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:33 pm
by Spidery
How did you manage to get to drop mines?
What base did you fly the Helens to drop mines from, size, supply state, air HQ?
Given my failure to drop mines it is nice to know it is possible, just need to find what I have been missing.
RE: Burma Bungle!
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:28 pm
by Lowpe
ORIGINAL: koniu
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Koniu,
I have two more navy squadrons. One is the next to worthless Endo Detachment which removes in Sept of 43. The other might be a large squadron that goes Zero-S or Denko.
I know about Endo Det but that last one is mastery for me. Have name or something?
EDIT:
I find it: Editor number 113 - Tainan Ku-S-1 (later renamed to 251 Ku S-1 and later to S-901 Hikotai), 36 size unit:) start as figter
You found it! [:)]
RE: Burma Bungle!
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:29 pm
by Lowpe
ORIGINAL: Spidery
How did you manage to get to drop mines?
What base did you fly the Helens to drop mines from, size, supply state, air HQ?
Given my failure to drop mines it is nice to know it is possible, just need to find what I have been missing.
Bangkok: size 7 af; size 4 port; over 25K supplies; HQa Air Division present.
RE: Burma Bungle!
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:33 pm
by koniu
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
ORIGINAL: Spidery
How did you manage to get to drop mines?
What base did you fly the Helens to drop mines from, size, supply state, air HQ?
Given my failure to drop mines it is nice to know it is possible, just need to find what I have been missing.
Bangkok: size 7 af; size 4 port; over 25K supplies; HQa Air Division present.
I think it must be at lest AF lvl 4 and 2x supply requirement
RE: Burma Bungle!
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:20 pm
by Lowpe
My surface fleets along the Indochina coast have been spotted, they will meet at Mergui under heavy night and day CAP. Perhaps they will lose detection, as the Allies have been spotty here.
Having a tough time getting supplies to Marshalls, using some subs now, and beefing up supplies at Ponape while Allied carriers refuel.
KB is still undergoing upgrades, and training pilots.
Closing in on Chungking from Kweiyang, up both roads. Still need supply in China...I am shipping in 20K.
I have plenty of things to do on my stickied reminder list, but I never get around to all of them...mostly moving troops and supplies or working on pilots and then the time alloted to turnaround the game has come .
Looking forward to my new air frames, and not the Allied ones at all![:D]
RE: Burma Bungle!
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:29 pm
by Lowpe
Kuriles: All quiet. Got more supplies heading here.
Naval defense quite weak, but I can get lots of airplanes here quite fast, and several carriers if he pushes here. I think it is unlikely though. Perhaps in 44.
RE: Burma Bungle!
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:33 pm
by Lowpe
Marshalls:
Hard to figure out how to get supply in here without risking more than it is worth. Not really much in the way of troops, some naval guards, etc.
Everyplace is pretty much getting attention from bombers, and since my trap with Rufes, Allied fighters are flying even some Canadians.
RE: Burma Bungle!
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:35 pm
by Lowpe
Darwin -- all quiet.
RE: Burma Bungle!
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:36 pm
by Lowpe
China:
RE: Burma Bungle!
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:40 pm
by Lowpe
Burma
The 1st Tank Division is moving up to help counter the 1000 Allied tanks near Lashio. The RTA units there will hold out on the Burma Road for as long as possible. No retreat for them!
RE: Burma Bungle!
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:43 pm
by Lowpe
I am predicting a very bloody July! Remember, you heard it here first![:D]
RE: Burma Bungle!
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:46 pm
by Lowpe
The Home Islands are quite busy with shipping. Almost all of it is unescorted.
