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ORIGINAL: poodlebrain

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

Why land full divisions on the dot bases with so much Japanese stuff elsewhere?

It does seem an inefficient use of shipping, but it will certainly discourage any counter-invasions. Seeing how little the Allies have elsewhere, their entire naval power must be in the theater. Might as well use it when you know the Japanese are elsewhere, and won't be coming anytime soon.

I kind of wish Jocke would have been slightly more aggressive and used regiments for the lesser targets then followed up with an invasion of Moulmein using the freed up divisions. Control of Moulmein allows the isolation of Burma, and Moulmein is an excellent defensive position.

I kind of wish Jocke would have been slightly more aggressive ...

This is just the 1st part with lower quality troops. The 2nd part (Pencil II) will follow.

ORIGINAL: poodlebrain

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

Why land full divisions on the dot bases with so much Japanese stuff elsewhere?

It does seem an inefficient use of shipping, but it will certainly discourage any counter-invasions. Seeing how little the Allies have elsewhere, their entire naval power must be in the theater. Might as well use it when you know the Japanese are elsewhere, and won't be coming anytime soon.

I kind of wish Jocke would have been slightly more aggressive and used regiments for the lesser targets then followed up with an invasion of Moulmein using the freed up divisions. Control of Moulmein allows the isolation of Burma, and Moulmein is an excellent defensive position.

ORIGINAL: AcePylut

So let me get this straight - if the Japs take LA, then all the aircraft factories there go "poof" and the Allies are no longer able to produce those aircraft?

That, to me, is a game engine error that should be fixed... because think about it - if the base is taken before these factories come on-line (or even if they are "online) - the US wouldn't build the airplane factories elsewhere?

ORIGINAL: AcePylut

So let me get this straight - if the Japs take LA, then all the aircraft factories there go "poof" and the Allies are no longer able to produce those aircraft?

That, to me, is a game engine error that should be fixed... because think about it - if the base is taken before these factories come on-line (or even if they are "online) - the US wouldn't build the airplane factories elsewhere?

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

ORIGINAL: AcePylut

So let me get this straight - if the Japs take LA, then all the aircraft factories there go "poof" and the Allies are no longer able to produce those aircraft?

That, to me, is a game engine error that should be fixed... because think about it - if the base is taken before these factories come on-line (or even if they are "online) - the US wouldn't build the airplane factories elsewhere?

Yepp, that´s it. Once the allies recapture it they will revert to vehicle factories or something like that. I think the same is true for Japanese aircraft factories?

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

Why land full divisions on the dot bases with so much Japanese stuff elsewhere?

I,m actually just going to land 1/3rd of divisions at everything beside PB and LA. Only 1 BDE will land at Great Nicobar.

ORIGINAL: AcePylut

Well that's kind of silly. In my opinion.

Hey - in two years, we are going to build P51's at LA. But darn, we can't make ANY P-51's because LA was taken and we have no other place in the entire USA to build a factory 2 years from now that can produce P'51's.

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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I´m sure Jeff isn´t too happy about this.

Also take not that the P40Ks did most of the heavy work arriving before the P47s. They still did very well sweeping into a big CAP. I think about 2:1 in their favor. [:)]

ORIGINAL: AcePylut

Well that's kind of silly. In my opinion.

Hey - in two years, we are going to build P51's at LA. But darn, we can't make ANY P-51's because LA was taken and we have no other place in the entire USA to build a factory 2 years from now that can produce P'51's.

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: AcePylut

Well that's kind of silly. In my opinion.

Hey - in two years, we are going to build P51's at LA. But darn, we can't make ANY P-51's because LA was taken and we have no other place in the entire USA to build a factory 2 years from now that can produce P'51's.

The P-51 began development in 1940, at least. If the factories were to be captured by an enemy, they would be trashed, yes? Rather than let the enemy get their aircraft factories back in working condition.

Now, yes - repairs could be effected or the factories rebuilt from nothing, but there is nothing in the game to allow for building a new factory. To do so would have been rather complex (so many parameters: do you allow new factories to be built at any time? only destroyed factories? is there a time limit [e.g. have to be destroyed in 1943 or earlier because rebuilding just takes so long]? etc.) and for special cases like this only, so the game as it is written is really the best abstraction of the real world as they could get.

On top of that, rebuilding infrastructure is a very intense process. Aircraft development facilities are not just a building and plans on some pieces of paper. There are all kinds of tools and machine shops and such, and if those are blown up, you've got to remake those first before you can get back to the business of designing/building/testing planes.