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Really like the new Spurs kit (although not so keen on the shield for the cockerel). Always a fan of the less-is-more school of thought and Spurs shirts should be White and not white with all sorts of slashes and strips and stuff all over the place. This shirt is nice and simple. Like it. Hate to say it but for the same reasons the Chelsea kit is good too [;)].

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... eason.html

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As for Rangers - they were at home and they were playing a team from Luxembourg - I don't think it matters what the score is after two legs. The first leg alone is sufficiently depressing.

First leg is indeed depressing but that will only be a fun fact if they advance. If not, then it will be a scandal of massive proportions for the team.

And it is not all that fun either to go to the Faroe Islands and play a 0-0 draw. But that will soon be forgotten if they advance...

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Really like the new Spurs kit (although not so keen on the shield for the cockerel). Always a fan of the less-is-more school of thought and Spurs shirts should be White and not white with all sorts of slashes and strips and stuff all over the place. This shirt is nice and simple. Like it. Hate to say it but for the same reasons the Chelsea kit is good too [;)].

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... eason.html

I can understand why you like the new kit. It looks very nice. Both modern and classic at the same time.

This is a nice kit as well.

Although I really like the new Europa League kit.

Both the dark home kit and the white away kit. So I really, really would like them to advance into the cup this year.

Although, currently, that seems a far away dream.

You have two different kits; one for domestic and one for Europa? The domestic kit looks black - is it?

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You have two different kits; one for domestic and one for Europa? The domestic kit looks black - is it?

This year we have two different kits.

Our main colours are a dark blue and yellow. But back in the days the dark blue was a tough colour so it was often replaced with black. Nowdays we are more known as a black and yellow. And white became our away colour. So the dark blue is a nice touch in a shirt that our main sponsor asked to be made without logos to celebrate our fans.

Another nice touch from our main sponsor is that their logo is not shown on the main kit either. Instead they show a non-profit organization that support research against heart and lung disease.

Edit: Today our colours are colours are black and yellow. With white as secondary kit. But you can see our original colour in our badge.

That's a shame. I like the blue and white kits. Simple and elegant.

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Depressing. Rangers hammer a bunch of Luxembourgers at home 1-0....

...while for St Johnstone it got worse - conceding a second away goal [:(]

It is the end result, after both matches has been played, that counts.

Or, at least, that is what I currently tell myself.

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Well I don't think St Johnstone are going to go to Lithuania and get 2 goals.

As for Rangers - they were at home and they were playing a team from Luxembourg - I don't think it matters what the score is after two legs. The first leg alone is sufficiently depressing.

warspite1

Wow......

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Wow......

oh, yes? even I expected them to get into the next round - they must have exhausted themselves parading around Glasgow last saturday (ahem)

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And the manager is not yet sacked?

Or all the players on the transfer list?

[&:]

I think not all players are still available.
Glasgow hired one of the central defenders of the Portuguese national team, and I'm pretty sure he wasn't available for these matches as he was playing for Portugal.
Probably more players will come... The season just started.

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I think not all players are still available.
Glasgow hired one of the central defenders of the Portuguese national team, and I'm pretty sure he wasn't available for these matches as he was playing for Portugal.
Probably more players will come... The season just started.

true but they also lost to the 4th placed team in the Luxembourg league, so yes some explanations but still this is *ahem* causing considerable amusement in Glasgow (well outside Govan anyway).

To add to Rangers' pain, they've just lost in court about the tax case that put them into financial meltdown in the first place. Since the judge has directly blamed the SFA for its poor monitoring of its regulatory regime this could get very tricky very quickly. Depends if any of the other SPL sides are minded to legally contest one or the other of their '10 in a row' league wins. I'd suspect Celtic won't but both Aberdeen and Hearts missed out in that era and might be minded to go for financial compensation.

My instinct is it depends on if the other clubs have financial skeletons hanging around that they really do not want to wish having raised in any court proceedings.

The other risk is HMRC now go for the reformed club for its old tax debts. Quite possibly as this article seems a pretty fair outline of the issues and judgement:

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/1539 ... _at_Ibrox/

ORIGINAL: Orm

And the manager is not yet sacked?

Or all the players on the transfer list?

[&:]

Given the above, they may well be facing a second bankruptcy. Even if they escape that, I suspect it will undermine any attempt to rebuld the current side and they may well have to sell anyone that they can get a fee for.

Poor Rangers...
It must be terrible for the fans. [:(]

ORIGINAL: VPaulus

Poor Rangers...
It must be terrible for the fans. [:(]

at one level I agree. For many what happened between 1987 and 1998 must been ancient history and the destroy the club today because of that seems unfair.

But the reality of the 2 main court cases between 2012 and today is it is clear that Rangers cheated to those titles - and in those years that was the only route to the old European Cup etc. That they use tax avoidance as opposed to match fixing is not really relevant.

Now I have little sympathy for Celtic fans who are making a lot of noise. But the nature of Scottish football is that for clubs like Aberdeen or Hearts (who both came second in that era) is it is incredibly hard to build a good team and practically impossible to hold it together. It takes a rare combination of a group of players emerging from their own youth teams and a well above average manager - we really are talking about once in a generation combinations of luck and judgement. So fans from those sides have every reason to feel very aggrieved at this.

edit: as an aside the same tax structure was used by a number Rugby clubs - both Union and League - so this is going to have wider implications. No one is sure if other UK football clubs did it but some might have.

I can see your point and I agree.
For the Scottish league, it's quite bad. Celtic is now the dominant team with no contestant.
Celtic fans might be happy now, but this is not good for the team.
One can say that this is basically what's happening in Germany, but it's not quite so. The difference between the teams are not so big.

This is where a salary cap might help. Limiting all teams to the same monetary amount might reduce the temptation to gain an advantage by cheating. Although human greed is limitless...

That's what they are doing in NBA, but still, two teams seem to be "miles away" from the other ones...