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RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:39 pm
by Extraneous
What Italian port was attacked on December 2, 1943?

Over 100 German Junkers Ju-88 bombers of Luftflotte 2, achieving complete surprise, bombed shipping and personnel operating in support of the Allied Italian campaign, sinking 27 cargo and transport ships and a schooner in the harbor.

At first, the Allied High Command tried to conceal the disaster, in case the Germans believed that the Allies were preparing to use chemical weapons, which might provoke them into preemptive use, but there were too many witnesses to keep the secret, and in February the U.S. Chiefs of Staff issued a statement admitting to the accident and emphasising that the U.S. had no intention of using chemical weapons except in the case of retaliation.



RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:54 pm
by michaelbaldur
ORIGINAL: michaelbaldur
ORIGINAL: michaelbaldur

1. I do have a World In Flames Counter
2. I did not survive World War II

3. im a ship
4 I was sunk in a famous action, but never left port

5. I was sunk by torpedoes

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:15 pm
by Centuur
ORIGINAL: michaelbaldur

ORIGINAL: michaelbaldur
ORIGINAL: michaelbaldur

1. I do have a World In Flames Counter
2. I did not survive World War II

3. im a ship
4 I was sunk in a famous action, but never left port

5. I was sunk by torpedoes
Never left port? Not even for trial runs? Interesting...

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:06 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Centuur

ORIGINAL: michaelbaldur

ORIGINAL: michaelbaldur



3. im a ship
4 I was sunk in a famous action, but never left port

5. I was sunk by torpedoes
Never left port? Not even for trial runs? Interesting...
Warspite1

I assume that refers to the battle e.g. Taranto, Pearl Harbor etc as opposed to the ship never leaving port - but I might be wrong...

If she never left port at all, that must mean she was attacked on the slipway or in the fitting out basin. Can't readily think of any in the latter camp.

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:41 pm
by Extraneous
ORIGINAL: michaelbaldur
ORIGINAL: michaelbaldur

1. I do have a World In Flames Counter
2. I did not survive World War II

3. im a ship
4 I was sunk in a famous action, but never left port

Battleship HMS Royal Oak

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:51 pm
by Orm
ORIGINAL: michaelbaldur

ORIGINAL: michaelbaldur
ORIGINAL: michaelbaldur

1. I do have a World In Flames Counter
2. I did not survive World War II

3. im a ship
4 I was sunk in a famous action, but never left port

5. I was sunk by torpedoes
Conte di Cavour?

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:15 pm
by michaelbaldur

the right answer

is Royal Oak

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:31 pm
by warspite1
Okay, lets try and make this a little more tricky:

Which Ship Am I?

1. I do have a counter in WIF.

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:27 pm
by Orm
ORIGINAL: warspite1

Okay, lets try and make this a little more tricky:

Which Ship Am I?

1. I do have a counter in WIF.
HMS Gotland?

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:53 pm
by brian brian
Extraneous's question's answer is Bari, Italy. That raid did hit an Allied ship loaded with chemical weapons, causing many military and civilian casualties. These were compounded by the secrecy surrounding everything - basic precautions like taking off exposed clothing weren't used, for example. The whole incident was hushed up to a huge degree, with some details only coming out decades later.

I just read a new history of the Allied campaign in Italy that devotes several pages to this incident. Rick Atkinson's "The Day of Battle"

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:06 am
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: warspite1

Okay, lets try and make this a little more tricky:

Which Ship Am I?

1. I do have a counter in WIF.
Warspite1

Not the Gotland Orm.

1. I do have a counter in WIF
2. I did not survive the Second World War

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:34 am
by brian brian
95% of the Japanese counters?

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:35 am
by michaelbaldur
ORIGINAL: brian brian

95% of the Japanese counters?

it to high.

remember all the counters there were never build

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:51 am
by brian brian
right then. I'll refine my guess to the Task Force marker that says "Combined Fleet" on it.

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:48 am
by Extraneous
ORIGINAL: Extraneous

What Italian port was attacked on December 2, 1943?

Over 100 German Junkers Ju-88 bombers of Luftflotte 2, achieving complete surprise, bombed shipping and personnel operating in support of the Allied Italian campaign, sinking 27 cargo and transport ships and a schooner in the harbor.

At first, the Allied High Command tried to conceal the disaster, in case the Germans believed that the Allies were preparing to use chemical weapons, which might provoke them into preemptive use, but there were too many witnesses to keep the secret, and in February the U.S. Chiefs of Staff issued a statement admitting to the accident and emphasising that the U.S. had no intention of using chemical weapons except in the case of retaliation.



The port is on the MWiF map.



Fire on ammunition ships John Harvey and bomb hits on John L. Motley caused massive detonations, which shattered windows seven miles away. A bulk gasoline pipeline and supply were severed and the gushing fuel ignited engulfing other ships.

In total, 800 crew and civilians lost their lives in the fire, explosions and poisoning by mustard gas that was on board John Harvey.

Allied Merchant Ships Lost

John Harvey (US Liberty) (7,177 tons)
John L. Motley (US Liberty) (7,176 tons)
John Bascom (US Liberty) (7,176 tons)
Joseph Wheeler (US Liberty) (7,176 tons)
Samuel J. Tilden (US Liberty) (7,176 tons)
Fort Athabasca (Canadian) (7,132 tons)
Fort Lajoie (Canadian) (7,134 tons)
Testbank (British) (5,083 tons)
Lars Kruse (British) (1,897 tons)
Devon Coast (British) (646 tons)
Bollsta (Norwegian) (1,832 tons)
Norlom (Norwegian) (6,412 tons)
Lom (Norwegian) (1,268 tons)
Lwow (Polish) (1,409 tons)
Puck (Polish) (1,065 tons)
Frosinone (Italian) (5,202 tons)
Barletta (Italian) (1,975 tons)


RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:46 am
by warspite1
See post 2730

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:53 am
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Okay, lets try and make this a little more tricky:

Which Ship Am I?

1. I do have a counter in WIF.
Warspite1

Not the Gotland Orm.

1. I do have a counter in WIF
2. I did not survive the Second World War
Warspite1

1. I do have a counter in WIF
2. I did not survive the Second World War
3. I was sunk by the Americans

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:04 pm
by Extraneous
ORIGINAL: warspite1

See post 2730


Seams I need to take a break thats the second entry I've missed [X(]

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:20 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Okay, lets try and make this a little more tricky:

Which Ship Am I?

1. I do have a counter in WIF.
Warspite1

Not the Gotland Orm.

1. I do have a counter in WIF
2. I did not survive the Second World War
Warspite1

1. I do have a counter in WIF
2. I did not survive the Second World War
3. I was sunk by the Americans
Warspite1

1. I do have a counter in WIF
2. I did not survive the Second World War
3. I was sunk by the Americans
4. I am not Japanese.....or German

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:16 pm
by warspite1
1. I do have a counter in WIF
2. I did not survive the Second World War
3. I was sunk by the Americans
4. I am not Japanese.....or German
5. I'm a cruiser. Oh, and I am not Italian either