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RE: Business Model

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:24 am
by jomni
Shogun Total War 2 Collector's edition is more expensive than WITP, WITE, BFTB!!!!
Well it's a collector's edition so it has some useless goodies that you have to pay for. :)
http://www.wargamer.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=502220

Matrix collector's edition anyone?

RE: Business Model

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:19 am
by Anthropoid
ORIGINAL: diablo1
X360 and PS3 games don't drop like that (like retail PC games) unless they are absolute rubbish. A console game will hold a $59.99 price point months long after the PC title was discounted at the same store from $49.99 to $19.99.

Not true as we have a Gamestop and a Software Etc. that takes tradeins for new and old games and they will sell and/or rent these newer games for far less than full retail price just a few months after release.

Any megalomania to speak of here lately? [:D]

RE: Business Model

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:22 pm
by diablo1
Any megalomania to speak of here lately?

Don't know about megalomania but we certainly have megalowprices. [8D]

RE: Business Model

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:24 pm
by diablo1
ORIGINAL: jomni

Shogun Total War 2 Collector's edition is more expensive than WITP, WITE, BFTB!!!!
Well it's a collector's edition so it has some useless goodies that you have to pay for. :)
http://www.wargamer.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=502220

Matrix collector's edition anyone?

That's true but evenutally and in the not so far distant future that and the regular priced game will be well below $20 and in some cases less than $10. So, I really don't care what the opening prices are just as long as I know there's going to be very very low prices not to far in the future. THat's the difference in Matrixgames vs others.

RE: Business Model

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:39 pm
by Perturabo
ORIGINAL: diablo1

ORIGINAL: bairdlander

Its not a reason to jack the price to $165.Yes according to surveys wargamers have more disposible income,but not all and thats no reason to increase prices.

But if they increased the price of wargames in America to $165 wouldn't they then cost $495 in Pln? I would think you'd want to keep the prices down in America so you could afford more in PLN.
It doesn't matter for me as I don't buy them anyway. The only Matrix Games that I have are the ones that I bought from a bargain bin for 5 PLN each (I don't play them much because they aren't on my favourite level) and the ones I got for beta testing. Generally, I have stopped stopped buying most of western games, music and movies after I went to UK to work and realised how cheap they are in reality. I realised that I was definitely working too much for my entertainment. Much more than marketing departments of western companies would consider reasonable.
Which doesn't change the fact that there are tons of gamers here which are ready to pay 165PLN or more to get their gaming fix despite that there are other games that cost 20-50 PLN (mainly older ones), so it could also work in the West with 165$.
Personally, I don't see myself paying 165 PLN for any new game unless it would be priced around 165$ in the west or would be an actual old game in box - sealed or very rare as the rarity and limited amount of existing boxed copies would make its value real and universal - it would be more like buying a car than buying a bunch of 1s and 0s.
ORIGINAL: Lützow

I remember Matrix having a contract with a Polish retailer some years ago, who sold their games for roughly half of the official price. This got out of control when he started to offer Matrix titles over Ebay and shipped in adjacent countries.
Too bad it wasn't any solid retailer like CD-Projekt or Cenega - both of them have very long tradition on Polish market (they exist practically since the beginning of the legal games market in Poland) and they always localize games that they sell. Nicolas Games is some weird company that exists only since 2004.
Nicolas games is a publisher of a Polish post-apocalyptic cRPG Afterfall. They put the founder of the project away from it some time ago, which is kinda suspicious.