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RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!)
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:18 pm
by rader
May 24, 1943.
Port Moresby held today despite a tremendous naval and air bombardment followed by a major assault. I expected the defenders to capitulate. Bad Allied die rolls maybe?
RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!)
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:48 pm
by DesertWolf101
ORIGINAL: rader
Does anyone know the supply cost to build fort levels? (Either cumulative or to build to the next level?)
Trying to decide if it's worth the extra supplies to fortify key bases. Considering the forts don't seem to last long, often I think it might be better to simply save the supplies?
Not sure about supply cost for fort construction, but I found this link on supply cost for base construction potentially useful:
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2885601
RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!)
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:52 pm
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: DesertWolf101
ORIGINAL: rader
Does anyone know the supply cost to build fort levels? (Either cumulative or to build to the next level?)
Trying to decide if it's worth the extra supplies to fortify key bases. Considering the forts don't seem to last long, often I think it might be better to simply save the supplies?
Not sure about supply cost for fort construction, but I found this link on supply cost for base construction potentially useful:
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2885601
Higher fort levels also increase the Balloon defenses. This will help against low level night attacks by large bombers.
RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!)
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:57 am
by mind_messing
ORIGINAL: rader
I tried Nicks with good pilots and they still seemed to die just as fast without shooting down much more, but I will experiment with Georges...
High EXP and high DEF are the name of the game.
Don't worry about shooting them down outright, as that's a poor indicator of a successful defence against night bombing raids.
Your metric is how little damage gets caused. When you consider how many bombers will get lost or not fly, it makes more sense to measure the damage you have to endure. Any shootdowns or subsequent OPS losses are a bonus.
As a further suggestion, surging day fighters around to night CAP during periods of high moonlight will be helpful too.
RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!)
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:12 pm
by PaxMondo
ORIGINAL: mind_messing
ORIGINAL: rader
I tried Nicks with good pilots and they still seemed to die just as fast without shooting down much more, but I will experiment with Georges...
High EXP and high DEF are the name of the game.
Don't worry about shooting them down outright, as that's a poor indicator of a successful defence against night bombing raids.
Your metric is how little damage gets caused. When you consider how many bombers will get lost or not fly, it makes more sense to measure the damage you have to endure. Any shootdowns or subsequent OPS losses are a bonus.
As a further suggestion, surging day fighters around to night CAP during periods of high moonlight will be helpful too.
+1
IJA: Nick
IJN: George
If your opponent is doing a lot of night bombing, you will likely have to use groups from both. Numbers matter a lot.
RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!)
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:06 pm
by rader
If your opponent is doing a lot of night bombing, you will likely have to use groups from both. Numbers matter a lot.
They mostly come at night. Mostly.
RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!)
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:09 pm
by rader
Even the crappy fighters and pilot seem decent as ablative armor preventing damage so at least that works ok.
RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!)
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:16 pm
by rader
Some holdout "guerillas" that I somehow missed on Mindanao. Will need to liquidate them.
RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!)
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:31 pm
by rader
This is interesting. Not supposed to arrive until 43/7 but I guess he gets some early. Not yet seen in action, probably rebasing toward the front.
RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!)
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:41 pm
by RangerJoe
He may get some units equipped with them before that date.
RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!)
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:24 pm
by rader
Put some 20mm cannon shells into a PT boat but I'm not sure if that actually does anything. Seems this isn't a great use of Georges?
RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!)
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:28 pm
by RangerJoe
That can kill them.
RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!)
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:14 pm
by rader
This time I put some Georges and Nicks with good pilots on night CAP and they still did nothing and still died. Back to rookies. At least I'm not losing much with untrained ablative armor.
RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!)
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:07 pm
by rader
June 1, 1943
Port Moresby falls!
It was only a matter of time, but this is the first major base to be recaptured by the Allies. The Allied steamroller is starting to move...
RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!)
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:24 pm
by rader
June 2, 1943
Missed opportunity!
I had set almost 500 Japanese bombers to attack the airfields at Ledo where the Allied heavies were but only 60 flew. Got a few heavies on the ground, but missed a big opportunity to get more. Sigh.
RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!)
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:13 am
by bigred
ORIGINAL: DesertWolf101
ORIGINAL: rader
Does anyone know the supply cost to build fort levels? (Either cumulative or to build to the next level?)
Trying to decide if it's worth the extra supplies to fortify key bases. Considering the forts don't seem to last long, often I think it might be better to simply save the supplies?
Not sure about supply cost for fort construction, but I found this link on supply cost for base construction potentially useful:
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2885601
Higher fort level
also:
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.a ... ost�
Critical info:
Levels 1,2 and 3- cost about 1,000 supplies and take 3 days
Level 4 - 2,400 tons of supplies; 9 days
Level 5 - 3,600 supplies, 13 days
Level 6 - 5,200 supplies, 19 days
Level 7 - 20,000 supplies, 25 days
Level 8 - 26,700 supplies, 33 days
Level 9 - 29,900 supplies, 38 days
RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!)
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:40 pm
by rader
ORIGINAL: bigred
ORIGINAL: DesertWolf101
ORIGINAL: rader
Does anyone know the supply cost to build fort levels? (Either cumulative or to build to the next level?)
Trying to decide if it's worth the extra supplies to fortify key bases. Considering the forts don't seem to last long, often I think it might be better to simply save the supplies?
Not sure about supply cost for fort construction, but I found this link on supply cost for base construction potentially useful:
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2885601
Higher fort level
also:
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.a ... ost�
Critical info:
Levels 1,2 and 3- cost about 1,000 supplies and take 3 days
Level 4 - 2,400 tons of supplies; 9 days
Level 5 - 3,600 supplies, 13 days
Level 6 - 5,200 supplies, 19 days
Level 7 - 20,000 supplies, 25 days
Level 8 - 26,700 supplies, 33 days
Level 9 - 29,900 supplies, 38 days
Thank you!! Hope you're doing well, been a couple of years since the wifcon
RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!)
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:43 pm
by rader
June 3, 1943.
Allied bombers come to Mandalay at night to hit back at the Japanese airfields, but most of the Japanese bombers have relocated.
I did set a large number of fighters including Georges on night CAP but they only managed to shoot down 2 B-25s in exchange for 2 Georges and 5 Tojos. However, Flak did a great job over both Mandalay and Rabaul, claiming 7 Heavies today.
RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!)
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:46 pm
by rader
Japanese subs also had a good day in the South Pacific sinking a CL (actually Richmond, not Achilles) and the poor corvette Chilliwack with its brave *Canadian crew.
For a nice time, the Canadians had a nice time enjoying the tropical sun. Even after their ship was sunk it was a heck of a lot more pleasant than being stranded in the unforgiving North Atlantic.
*I'm from Canada and rarely get to see them in the Pacific.
RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!)
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:32 pm
by rader
June 5, 1943.
Another day, another night raid. This time on Rabaul. Lots of Japanese flies swatted by the 4Es, but we're slowly bringing them down as well, with about a 0.15:1 kill to loss ratio.
