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ORIGINAL: stjeand

Well the shatter was due to a retreat that could not happen...I have seen a 1/1 shatter before not being able to retreat, though only once.
Mostly 3 or 4 to 1 odds get shatters.

That would definitely be a unit going back into the deployment queue.

1/1 odds and killed 10 on a Pz...that was a good roll, twice...then the 2/1 was a good roll.
Luck is definitely with you at the moment.

ORIGINAL: Harrybanana

Are you talking about my December 18 attacks or my January 1 attacks? Either way I didn't have any 1:1 Attacks causing a unit to shatter because it couldn't retreat. The Attack on December 18 that caused the unit to shatter says it was stated to be at 3:1. But I think that was misreported. I am unsure when it gives the odds if that is before casualties have been taken or after.

As for my January 1 attacks, actually I don't think I was that lucky this time. My understanding (which could be wrong but I don't think so) is that the combat odds have very little to do with the casualties inflicted. Rather casualties are inflicted by the intrinsic elements of each unit (artillery guns, tanks, etc). So if two 20 strength units attack a 20 strength defender they will inflict more casualties with their 40 strength 2:1 attack than two 5 strength units will inflict on a 2 strength defender with their 10 strength 5:1 attack. Of course the 20 strength defender will also inflict more casualties on them than the 2 strength defender will on its attackers.

This is why if you look at my January 1 attacks I inflicted far more casualties with my first two 1:1 odds attacks (10 and 8) than I did with my 11:1 last attack (only 1). But I believe what really caused most of those casualties with the first three attacks was the shore bombardment. IMHO naval bombardment is too powerful. Not sure how that is working out in WP Pacific. But it tends to make up for Allied air units being under powered.

ORIGINAL: stjeand

But...yes the naval bombardment seems a bit off. You can perform unlimited numbers of them...if you were able to attack next to them unlimited times.

ORIGINAL: stjeand

ORIGINAL: Harrybanana

Are you talking about my December 18 attacks or my January 1 attacks? Either way I didn't have any 1:1 Attacks causing a unit to shatter because it couldn't retreat. The Attack on December 18 that caused the unit to shatter says it was stated to be at 3:1. But I think that was misreported. I am unsure when it gives the odds if that is before casualties have been taken or after.

As for my January 1 attacks, actually I don't think I was that lucky this time. My understanding (which could be wrong but I don't think so) is that the combat odds have very little to do with the casualties inflicted. Rather casualties are inflicted by the intrinsic elements of each unit (artillery guns, tanks, etc). So if two 20 strength units attack a 20 strength defender they will inflict more casualties with their 40 strength 2:1 attack than two 5 strength units will inflict on a 2 strength defender with their 10 strength 5:1 attack. Of course the 20 strength defender will also inflict more casualties on them than the 2 strength defender will on its attackers.

This is why if you look at my January 1 attacks I inflicted far more casualties with my first two 1:1 odds attacks (10 and 8) than I did with my 11:1 last attack (only 1). But I believe what really caused most of those casualties with the first three attacks was the shore bombardment. IMHO naval bombardment is too powerful. Not sure how that is working out in WP Pacific. But it tends to make up for Allied air units being under powered.

Well I wish what you said was true always...I just recently attacked units with 1/1 4 corps vs 1 a lost a lot more than killed...4 to 5 times...and many times killed 0 and took looses...so there has to be good amount of luck somewhere.

But...yes the naval bombardment seems a bit off. You can perform unlimited numbers of them...if you were able to attack next to them unlimited times.