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RE: THE THREAD!!!

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:28 pm
by Mynok
ORIGINAL: JWE
I didn't know you was a martian bikey boy. Hootz gazooties !!

Rebuilt one when I was younger. Always loved riding them, just really didn't have the means to do so.

Biggest issue with this bike is not the seat height but the mid controls. My long legs need forward controls.

RE: THE THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:07 am
by Mike Solli
Been listening to TSO all night. They're amazing. I saw them last December. Hope to again this December.

RE: THE THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:13 am
by sprior
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Dixie

Evenin' chaps [:)]
Right then. What's all this about Mrs. Cake?

Discworld, innit?

RE: THE THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:03 am
by Apollo11
Hi all,

Good morning!


Leo "Apollo11"

RE: THE THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:35 am
by Grollub
Good morning friends.

RE: THE THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:36 am
by Grollub
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Dixie

Evenin' chaps [:)]
Right then. What's all this about Mrs. Cake?
I'll second that question. At the same time, we are not supposed to 'arsk' about that.

RE: THE THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:45 am
by Apollo11
Hi all,

Interesting...

L.A. Noire Developer Team Bondi Shuttered

By AnandTech


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Should a sequel to Rockstar Games’ latest offering ever appear, it won’t come from the original developer. Team Bondi, the studio that labored on L.A. Noire since 2005, has been liquidated, according to documents filed by the Australian Securities and Investments Commission.

Team Bondi went into administration on August 30, after the Sydney-based studio filed a notification of discharge. This move followed months of swelling controversy surrounding L.A. Noire’s development. In June, former Team Bondi employees claimed that at least 100 employees had been left off the game’s credit roll. Developers who worked on the game then spoke up, saying they had worked 10-12 hours a day, seven days a week, in “praise-free” conditions.

Develop reports that some Team Bondi assets and staff will be transferred to another Sydney production studio, Kennedy Miller Mitchell.

L.A. Noire was released in May to critical acclaim and solid sales. It is scheduled to be released on PC next month. Anandtech has contacted Rockstar regarding their plans to support L.A. Noire following Team Bondi’s dissolution.

Uncredited LA Noire Staff Allege 'Praise-Free' Working Conditions

By GamaSutra


Developers who worked on Team Bondi's LA Noire and were subsequently left without credit have been describing how they were asked to work 10-12 hours a day, every day, including weekends.

Earlier this month, over 100 contributing developers who were not included in the final credits roll for Team Bondi and Rockstar's LA Noire were highlighted on a special LA Noire Credits site.

Talking to the Sydney Morning Herald, a number of unnamed developers explained how, despite contributing large amounts of time and effort to the game's development, they were still not credited.

According to one former employee, Team Bondi told staff that they would not be credited on the game until they stayed with the company until the game was shipped.

Another developer who worked on the game for three years explained that he was forced to leave the company as, "I felt as though my sanity depended on it."

He described working at the company as "an inflexible and virtually praise-free environment," and noted the 10-12 hour working days, including weekends.

"After my wife had been pushing me to quit for more than a year, I did," he said.

"There has been a lot of press saying how incredible this is for the Australian gaming industry, since it is the biggest (and most successful) game made in Australia to date."

"But that has come at the price, as most of the people that worked on it will never have proof of having worked there (unless they want to pull out a paycheck)," he explained.

The unnamed developer noted that he had dedicated "25 percent of my professional life" to the game, yet was not credited.



Leo "Apollo11"

RE: THE THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:45 am
by Dixie
Morning chaps [:)]

My copy of British Pacific Fleet arrived this morning [8D] According to Amazon it was posted at 0534 and it was in my hands at 0950. The Royal Mail seem to have pulled their finger out for a change!

RE: THE THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:58 am
by sprior
ORIGINAL: Dixie

Morning chaps [:)]

My copy of British Pacific Fleet arrived this morning [8D] According to Amazon it was posted at 0534 and it was in my hands at 0950. The Royal Mail seem to have pulled their finger out for a change!

It's a good book. If you've read Hasting's Retribution you may notice their assessments of the BFP's efficacy diverge somewhat.

RE: THE THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:58 am
by sprior
The new Pratchet is out soon too.

RE: THE THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:13 am
by DuckofTindalos
His last one wasn't very good; wonder if the disease is starting to make itself felt...

RE: THE THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:00 am
by Apollo11
Hi all,

Hmm... [&:]

Revealed after 70 years: Dambusters legend was shot down by BRITISH airman who mistook him for German

By DailyMail UK


One of the greatest heroes of the Second World War was killed by friendly fire, according to a posthumous confession 67 years later by the man who pulled the trigger.

Guy Gibson, who won a VC for leading the Dam Busters' 'bouncing bomb' raids, died when his plane crashed mysteriously while returning from a mission 16 months later.

It was thought that Wing Commander Gibson – immortalised by Richard Todd in the 1955 film The Dam Busters – crashed after running out of fuel or flying too low.


Killed by friendly fire: Guy Gibson (below) and his navigator were killed instantly when Bernard McCormack (further below) mistook Gibson's aircraft for an enemy plane and opened fire in Germany in 1944:

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Mistake: Bernard McCormack was a gunner in a Lancaster bomber and mistook Gibson's twin-engined Mosquito, like this pictured, for an enemy plane:

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The aircraft: Bernard McCormack was a gunner in a Lancaster bomber (model pictured), when the mistake happened:

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He was 26 when he died, his only identifiable remains a laundry mark from a sock.

But now a researcher for a new film of the RAF raids on the Ruhr Valley in 1943, which is being made by Lord of the Rings director Sir Peter Jackson, has unearthed a taped confession made by a Lancaster gunner who says he shot down Wing Cdr Gibson's Mosquito fighter-bomber.

Sergeant Bernard McCormack was in Wing Cdr Gibson's formation of 227 Lancaster bombers and ten Mosquitoes in an attack on Germany in September 1944.

As they returned to RAF Woodall in Lincolnshire, Sgt McCormack saw what he thought was a German Junkers 88, which looked like a Mosquito, and loosed off 600 rounds of machinegun fire, bringing it down over the Dutch town of Steenbergen.

When he was debriefed by RAF intelligence officers, he realised he had killed Wing Cdr Gibson and his navigator Jim Warwick.

Wracked with guilt, he taped a confession, which he entrusted to his wife Eunice when he died in 1992. The cassette has now been found by TV documentary maker James Cutler, 62, after he contacted Mrs McCormack during research for Sir Peter's new film.


In memory: A Lancaster bomber over Derwent dam in the Peak District, England, to mark an anniversary of the event in 1943:

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Engineers from Cambridge University staged a peaceful recreation of the bombing raid over a lake in British Columbia, Canada, this year, as part of a study into the science behind the attack:

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R.A.F. Bomber Command in World War II: Guy Gibson, centre, with the air crews who took part in the raid:

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Referring to Wing Cdr Gibson's plane – or 'kite' in RAF slang – Sgt McCormack said: 'All of a sudden this kite comes right behind us, twin engines and a single rudder, and it comes bouncing in towards us so we opened fire and we blew him up.

'When we got back we claimed a Ju 88 shot down. The following day we were quizzed again.' He Confession: Sgt Bernard McCormack Daily Mail Reporter says an officer asked him: 'What made you think it was a Ju 88?'

Sgt McCormack went on: 'We said it had twin engines and a single rudder. He said, “So has a Mosquito. Supposing his radio and his radar was knocked out and he was lost and he spotted a Lancaster – he would only want to follow it home wouldn't he?”

'And it turned out it was Gibbo we shot down.'

Mr Cutler has also discovered classified documents in the Bomber Command records at the National Archives that back up Sgt McCormack's account.

One is the combat report from the crew of Sgt McCormack's Lancaster and the second is from the crew of another Lancaster on the raid which noted the 'kill'.

Mr Cutler, of St Ives, Cambridgeshire, has published his research into the incident in Britain At War magazine.

He said: 'It could only have been Gibson's plane because the coordinates in these documents were right where his plane came down. I am satisfied 100 per cent that Guy Gibson was killed by friendly fire and 99.9 per cent sure that he was shot down by Bernard McCormack's plane.

'For Guy Gibson to be killed by friendly fire was a huge blunder.'


A scene from the 1954 film 'The Dam Busters' which starred Richard Todd (left) as Wing Commander Guy Gibson and Michael Redgrave (right) as Dr Barnes Wallis:

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Film recreation: Actor Richard Todd as Wing Commander Guy Gibson in the 1954 film The Dam Busters:

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FACT FILE: DAMBUSTERS RAID

- On May 16, 1943, 19 aircraft set out to destroy three dams in the Ruhr valley - the Mohne, the Eder and the Sorpe - and so damage a vital source of power to the key industrial area of Germany.

- The Mohne and Eder Dams in the industrial heart of Germany were attacked and breached by mines dropped from specially modified Lancasters of No. 617 Sqn.

- The Sorpe dam was was also attacked by two aircraft and damaged.

- A fourth dam, the Ennepe was reported as being attacked by a single aircraft (O-Orange), but with no damage.

- An estimated 1,294 people were killed by floodwaters and 8 of the 19 aircraft dispatched failed to return with the loss of 53 aircrew and 3 taken prisoner of war.

- Wg Cdr Guy Gibson, Officer Commanding No. 617 Sqn, was awarded the VC for his part in leading the attack.


Leo "Apollo11"

RE: THE THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:28 am
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Apollo11

Revealed after 70 years: Dambusters legend was shot down by BRITISH airman who mistook him for German

Leo "Apollo11"

Never saw the movie. Was it good?

RE: THE THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:29 am
by Chickenboy
Good morning, THREAD dudes.

RE: THE THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:37 am
by DuckofTindalos
This post brought to you by The Royal Society For Putting Things On Top Of Other Things.

RE: THE THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:41 am
by Dixie
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Apollo11

Revealed after 70 years: Dambusters legend was shot down by BRITISH airman who mistook him for German

Leo "Apollo11"

Never saw the movie. Was it good?

The original one was, full on stiff-upper lips and bombing the Hun, all in glorious black & white [:D]



What good does an EXCLUSIVE! report that Gibson was shot down by a British airman do? WW2 gunner involved in friendly fire incident, hardly a surprise in the dark when you're being overtaken by a twin engine aircraft. Or maybe he actually did shoot down a Ju-88. That doesn't sell paper though.

RE: THE THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:44 am
by DuckofTindalos
It's the Daily Mail. It's what they do.

RE: THE THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:45 am
by Dixie
ORIGINAL: Terminus

His last one wasn't very good; wonder if the disease is starting to make itself felt...

Quite possibly. IMO the best of the series are the City Watch ones.

RE: THE THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:46 am
by Dixie
ORIGINAL: Terminus

It's the Daily Mail. It's what they do.

Because there are no benefit-claiming illegal immigrant Polish-Muslim teenage single mothers doing anything wrong today [:D]

RE: THE THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:57 am
by Mike Solli
ORIGINAL: Dixie
ORIGINAL: Terminus

It's the Daily Mail. It's what they do.

Because there are no benefit-claiming illegal immigrant Polish-Muslim teenage single mothers doing anything wrong today [:D]

Geez, and I thought we had problems.