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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Any of you AFBs ever buy out the 13th Armored Divsions?

IIRC, 13th Armored is permanent restricted.

The 13th Armored Division can NOT be bought out. It is training for Europe. Now if the Japanese invade the West Coast, you can use it for defense but even then you can't buy it out.

I feared as much. If I recall you get an Armored Division and a Canadian Armored Division if the IJ invade the West Coast...otherwise no joy. Ah well.

I am going to go ahead and be overly ambitious...even if I lack shipping, Japan will be in worse shape to counter a pre1943 invasion...I think.[;)]

Victory point tally according to Tracker from Japanese high to current turn....

Of course Luzon will fall, Singers, and most of China....but we should be taking back bases too.

Finished the turn off...nothing very exciting today. Setting prep, moving forces, etc, etc. More planes flying in supplies to China.

We are gearing up for the Baker Island to Tabby operations with a wholesale pivot of our light cruiser SAGs from Australia...they are below New Zealand now for the most part and headed east.

Lots of shipping leaving Cape Town for Balboa will be in time for the Marcus Operations.

Beefed up our ASW a bit.

Japan now has good recon on Lashio...I suspect a renewed thrust there.

June 11, 1942

If you can predict movement and already be in position, well then you can make quite nasty surprises....but you have to hit.

Another attack on the Ankang road. IJ tanks super tough when supplies are gone.

Probing attack over by Tuyun...need supplies badly almost everywhere in China.

Maybe airlift even a few supplies to where they are needed. That might help the defense a little bit even if the top unit gets all of the supplies.

I have toyed with that, and I think I am better off using all the planes to bring supplies in as deep in China as they can and still be in normal range.

You can't pick and choose who gets the supplies. Armor definitely is prioritized...but from this turn you can see ART is not getting any...while the flush 9th is gobbling it up.





This day we air transported in 327 supplies to China.

You can't pick and choose who gets the supplies. Armor definitely is prioritized...but from this turn you can see ART is not getting any...while the flush 9th is gobbling it up.

Given the corruption in Chiang Kai-shek's China, I guess that's actually realistic!

ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

You can't pick and choose who gets the supplies. Armor definitely is prioritized...but from this turn you can see ART is not getting any...while the flush 9th is gobbling it up.

Given the corruption in Chiang Kai-shek's China, I guess that's actually realistic!

Spot on [:D] Red Army is getting shafted yet again while KMT gobbles up everything. But then US had dealings mostly with KMT.

On a serious note, I believe supply distribution is rather random. I have some experience with tracking how a whole starving UK/Indian army fares in a multy-month siege with supply trickling in now and then from spawning units, and did not catch any obvious patterns there.

June 12, 1942

On the Ankang road the Japanese get a 1-1 and inflict nasty damage with their tank spearhead. Probably hold only one more day.

Ground combat at 82,43 (near Ankang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 33503 troops, 216 guns, 488 vehicles, Assault Value = 1036

Defending force 24324 troops, 49 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 552

Japanese adjusted assault: 705

Allied adjusted defense: 433

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
652 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 74 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 68 (2 destroyed, 66 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1272 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 260 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled

Assaulting units:
10th Tank Regiment
110th Division
3rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
3rd Tank Regiment
12th Tank Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
8th Ind.Mixed Brigade
13th Tank Regiment
9th Ind.Mixed Brigade
15th Tank Regiment
11th Tank Regiment

Defending units:
92nd Chinese Corps
47th Chinese Corps
67th Chinese Corps
3rd Prov Chinese Corps

While over at Luzon, Clark holds well but supplies have dwindled. I am thinking of retreating to Bataan, to extend the defense by avoiding the retreating carnage damage rolls. Experience is decent, but I am not sure how the morale will hold up with no supplies...

Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 24284 troops, 438 guns, 608 vehicles, Assault Value = 754

Defending force 31084 troops, 361 guns, 201 vehicles, Assault Value = 884

Japanese adjusted assault: 215

Allied adjusted defense: 919

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 4 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
825 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 119 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Vehicles lost 11 (3 destroyed, 8 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
682 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 49 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 13 (4 destroyed, 9 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Assaulting units:
9th Division
7th Ind.Tank Brigade
Guards Tank Division
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
2nd Mortar Battalion
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
21st Army

Defending units:
31st PA Infantry Division
21st PA Infantry Division
57th PS Infantry Regimental Combat Team
26th PS Cavalry Regiment
11th PA Infantry Division
31st Infantry Regiment
4th Marine Regiment
2nd PA Constabulary Division
88th PS Field Artillery Regiment
Far East USAAF
Clark Field AAF Base Force
I Philippine Corps
Provisional GMC Grp
301st PA Field Artillery Regiment

ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

You can't pick and choose who gets the supplies. Armor definitely is prioritized...but from this turn you can see ART is not getting any...while the flush 9th is gobbling it up.

Given the corruption in Chiang Kai-shek's China, I guess that's actually realistic!

Very nice![:)]

ORIGINAL: GetAssista

ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

You can't pick and choose who gets the supplies. Armor definitely is prioritized...but from this turn you can see ART is not getting any...while the flush 9th is gobbling it up.

Given the corruption in Chiang Kai-shek's China, I guess that's actually realistic!

Spot on [:D] Red Army is getting shafted yet again while KMT gobbles up everything. But then US had dealings mostly with KMT.

On a serious note, I believe supply distribution is rather random. I have some experience with tracking how a whole starving UK/Indian army fares in a multy-month siege with supply trickling in now and then from spawning units, and did not catch any obvious patterns there.

Not random, unit number order it seems...

Shore party, if I recall correctly help load and unload most items at ports but add no ship repair capability. Correct? I have two of these amphib tractor units at Christmas...I think they are hard at work.

I am thinking of using them to help load and unload troops on atolls for the coming operations.

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Shore party, if I recall correctly help load and unload most items at ports but add no ship repair capability. Correct? I have two of these amphib tractor units at Christmas...I think they are hard at work.

I am thinking of using them to help load and unload troops on atolls for the coming operations.

The US had up to six US Marine battalions of black marines to do that work, if I remember correctly. They were given minimal combat training compared to other marines but also were used in combat when needed - they were quite effective.

Found it.

Much of this loss is made up by "Shore Party" designated squads and units that support load/unload but will not support repair or rearm. This was done purposely to limit the number of Bases that could be fitted out for Fleet Support by limiting the number of units having NavSup squads with these capabilities.

Didn't recall the rearm bit.[;)]

ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

You can't pick and choose who gets the supplies. Armor definitely is prioritized...but from this turn you can see ART is not getting any...while the flush 9th is gobbling it up.

Given the corruption in Chiang Kai-shek's China, I guess that's actually realistic!

Listed to a roundtable discussion of historians about Stilwell. It seems much of the hype about corruption and incompetence in Chiang's areas was propaganda from Stilwell, and later from the communists. Regarding Stilwell's own performance, he was known within the US Army as the 'the highest ranking company commander in the army'.

ORIGINAL: witpqs

ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

You can't pick and choose who gets the supplies. Armor definitely is prioritized...but from this turn you can see ART is not getting any...while the flush 9th is gobbling it up.

Given the corruption in Chiang Kai-shek's China, I guess that's actually realistic!

Listed to a roundtable discussion of historians about Stilwell. It seems much of the hype about corruption and incompetence in Chiang's areas was propaganda from Stilwell, and later from the communists. Regarding Stilwell's own performance, he was known within the US Army as the 'the highest ranking company commander in the army'.

Have your read Barbara Tuchman's book on Stillwell?