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RE: North Korea ICBM and SAM

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:56 am
by Hongjian
I have been playing "The Lost Province" scenario (very well crafted scenario, btw!) and found out that it is incredibly hard for the PLA Rocket Force to shut down any ROCAF/Taiwanese airbases with even huge amounts of DF-11A SRBM due to the lack of accuracy on the mainstay SRBMs, the DF-11A.
The DB gives a CEP of 600m for both the basic DF-11 of the 90s and the improved 2000s DF-11A, which results in them not being able to hit even a runway even if launched en-masse. What I found weird is that the DF-11A also has the same CEP of the basic DF-11 of 600m.
Wikipedia, citing MissileThread and Global Security, say that the DF-11A has improved Beidou/GPS guidance which raises its CEP to 20-30m.

http://missilethreat.com/missiles/df-11-11a-css-7/


Fixed Thanks

Update for South Korea FFX Batch-II

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:07 pm
by jun5896
Daegu-Class (ROKN FFX Batch-II), 2018

Displacement:
2,800 t, 3,600 t (full load)
Length: 122 m
Beam: 14.2 m
Draft: 4.15 m
Propulsion: CODOG, 2 shafts, 2 x MTU 12V 1163 TB83 diesel engine, 1 x Rolls Royce MT30 gas turbine engine
Speed: 30 knots (56 km/h; 35 mph) (max), 18 knots (33 km/h; 21 mph) (cruising)
Range: 8,100 km
Complement: 120
Sensors and processing systems: SPS-550K search radar, SPG-540K tracking radar, Hanhwa Thales EOTS
SQS-240K sonar, SQR-220K towed array sonar
Electronic warfare & decoys: LIG Nex1 SLQ-200(V)K Sonata electronic warfare suite, KDAGAIE Mk2 decoys, SLQ-261K TACM
Armament:
1 x 5 inch Mk-45 Mod 4 (127mm/L62) naval gun
1 x 20 mm Phalanx Block 1B CIWS
2 x 4 SSM-700K Hae Sung anti-ship Missiles or 4 Tactical Ship-to-Surface Missiles (tentatively named : Hae Sung II; Guided Missile ~ 200-250km : Korean news Source)
2 x 3 K745 LW Blue Shark torpedoes
1 x KVLS 16-cells quadpack with Haegung K-SAAM(It is similar VL MICA maybe 10 - 12nm It will replace RAM) 32 round in 8-cells and Red Shark K-ASROC 8 round in 8-cells. KVLS also integrate Hyunmoo-3 B/C and Tactical Ship-to-Surface Missile
Aircraft carried: Super Lynx or Wildcat (1 medium slot)



http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... -navy.html
http://www.janes.com/article/61012/dsme ... ii-frigate


K-VLS


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_ ... References



LIG Nex1 Tactical Ship-to-Surface Missile (Guided Missile)

https://www.lignex1.com/eng/product/product01_02.jsp

Haegung K-SAAM

http://www.janes.com/article/55433/adex ... ce-by-2018

RE: Update for South Korea FFX Batch-II

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:33 pm
by Rocksoldier
I think there is a minor DB error in Aircraft #4416 (wrong name)
As far as i know the SF-260AM was replaced in 2005 with SF-260EA

http://www.aeromedia.it/sf260ami.html

Fixed Thanks!

RE: Update for South Korea FFX Batch-II

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:31 pm
by VIF2NE
#973 - Big Bird C [64N6] -- SA-20

Radar has two active surfaces, ScanInterval = 6 seconds (one full turn 12 seconds).
This radar is similar to High Screen A [9S19 Imbir]. He scans the space in two dimensions, so the information is updated more quickly than for "ScanInterval"

http://www.russianarms.ru/forum/index.php?topic=11388.0


Fixed Thanks

RE: Update for South Korea FFX Batch-II

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:22 pm
by mikmykWS
ORIGINAL: VIF2NE

#973 - Big Bird C [64N6] -- SA-20

Radar has two active surfaces, ScanInterval = 6 seconds (one full turn 12 seconds).
This radar is similar to High Screen A [9S19 Imbir]. He scans the space in two dimensions, so the information is updated more quickly than for "ScanInterval"

http://www.russianarms.ru/forum/index.php?topic=11388.0

Fixed. Thanks!

Mike

RE: North Korea ICBM and SAM

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:31 pm
by mikmykWS
ORIGINAL: Hongjian

I have been playing "The Lost Province" scenario (very well crafted scenario, btw!) and found out that it is incredibly hard for the PLA Rocket Force to shut down any ROCAF/Taiwanese airbases with even huge amounts of DF-11A SRBM due to the lack of accuracy on the mainstay SRBMs, the DF-11A.
The DB gives a CEP of 600m for both the basic DF-11 of the 90s and the improved 2000s DF-11A, which results in them not being able to hit even a runway even if launched en-masse. What I found weird is that the DF-11A also has the same CEP of the basic DF-11 of 600m.
Wikipedia, citing MissileThread and Global Security, say that the DF-11A has improved Beidou/GPS guidance which raises its CEP to 20-30m.

http://missilethreat.com/missiles/df-11-11a-css-7/

Reduced it to 50. Found similar sources but none that low[:)]

Mike

RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues?

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:48 pm
by mikmykWS
ORIGINAL: Skjold

I would like to request these Algerian additions to the DB please.

S-400 (Unknown version, presumably SA-21a?) #1668
16 TEL Launchers in total.
Delivery 2015-2016.

Buk-M2E (SA-17 Grizzly) #1913
48 launchers in total.
Delivery 2014-2015.

Pantsir-S1E (SA-22 Greyhound) #1935
38 vehicles in total.
Delivery 2010-2013.

Sources:
http://armstrade.org/files/obrazecglava4.pdf (Page 14-15) - Note: This is in Russian.

Add Raptor II capability to #3197 Su-24MK2
Delivery 2008.

Edit: Seems very similar to the existing H4-SOW (#3311 & #3312) entry with these differences.

Payload:600 kg HE warhead
Range:200 km (108 nm)


Sources:
http://armstrade.org/files/obrazecglava4.pdf (Page 16) - Note: This is in Russian.
http://www.deneldynamics.co.za/products ... /raptor-ii - Mentions Su-24 Integration

I've searched but come up empty. Do you have any pictures of any of these SAM systems with algerian markings. I've only found one that is likely the S-300.

Thanks!

Mike

Add Y-12

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 2:45 pm
by benefant
Please can you add the Y-12. ?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbin_Y-12

There are 3 Y-12's in the latest db for China, Kenya and Cambodia. Let me know if another nation is needed.

Add new russian tanker and transporter IL-76 possible?

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 2:55 pm
by benefant

Eurofighter Loadout Austria

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:59 pm
by benefant
#2083 and #3630
Eurofighter Austrian Airforce
They are not capable for AIM 120 AMRAAm
Only the IRIS-T

This was a political decision to special downgrade


So i think a light cap with 4 Iris and 3 drop tanks
And a heavy cap with 8 iris and 3 drop tanks


Please provide a source so we can make the change.

RE: Eurofighter Loadout Austria

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:48 pm
by wqc12345
What about new Russian Vehicle Jammers?

Murmansk-BN’ and ‘Leyer-3’ aerial jamming system. And many others?

https://russiandefpolicy.wordpress.com/ ... re-part-i/

I was curious why these weren't in the DB?

RE: Eurofighter Loadout Austria

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:02 pm
by mikmykWS
ORIGINAL: wqc12345

What about new Russian Vehicle Jammers?

Murmansk-BN’ and ‘Leyer-3’ aerial jamming system. And many others?

https://russiandefpolicy.wordpress.com/ ... re-part-i/

I was curious why these weren't in the DB?

Why do we have to explain why its not in there yet?

Mike

RE: Eurofighter Loadout Austria

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:05 pm
by wqc12345
You don't.

I should say, would you, most gracious devs, think about adding these units to the DB?

RE: Eurofighter Loadout Austria

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:27 am
by Vici Supreme
ORIGINAL: benefant

#2083 and #3630
Eurofighter Austrian Airforce
They are not capable for AIM 120 AMRAAm
Only the IRIS-T

This was a political decision to special downgrade


So i think a light cap with 4 Iris and 3 drop tanks
And a heavy cap with 8 iris and 3 drop tanks


Please provide a source so we can make the change.
These changes were implemented into the DB over a year ago. Make sure you are using the latest DB version.

RE: Eurofighter Loadout Austria

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:23 am
by mikmykWS
ORIGINAL: wqc12345

You don't.

I should say, would you, most gracious devs, think about adding these units to the DB?

Yeah we're really like that.

Mike

RE: Eurofighter Loadout Austria

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 1:51 pm
by Hongjian
There has been a huge update and an infodump on the wikipedia-page for the Type 346 or H/LJG-346 SAPAR, the 4-faced naval AESA that is equipped on the Type 052C and 052D Destroyers (And the Liaoning CV):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_346_Radar

It provides some specs on the performance of this AESA radar, which is conceptual close to the dual-band AN/APQ-53 radar of MIM-104 Patriot:
For Type 346:[4][5][14]

Total number of faces: 4
Bands: S and C
S-band array size & shape: octagon with 4 meter diameter
C-band array size & shape: ≈ 0.8 to 1 square meter rectangular ea.
Number of S-band arrays: 4 (1 per face)
Number of C-band arrays: 8 (2 per face)
Maximum search range (km): > 400
Weight (t): < 16 above deck
Scan: 120°
Elevation: 0° to 90°
Cooling: Air (Type 346), Liquid (Type 346A)

Type 346: First naval version with a large S-band array sandwiched between two rows of C-band arrays, utilizing air cooling system and identifiable by the curved surface of the cover of the radar array. Installed onboard Type 052C destroyers.

Type 346A: Development of Type 346 with increased number of T/R module and increased range, utilizing liquid cooling system and identifiable by the flat surface of the cover of the radar array. Installed onboard Type 052D destroyers.



Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 7:30 am
by lowchi
Northrop LAP (Low Altitude Penetrator) concept

https://theaviationist.com/2016/07/29/t ... r-concept/




Thanks for considering!

Regards Lowchi

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:04 am
by Zaslon
Missing units:
Spanish CH-47D [HT.17] x17
9 converted from CH-47C from 1991-1993
3 converted in 1998
5 converted in 2002

Delta Standard but with RWR ALR-300 and Chaff dispenser ALE-40.

An entire modernization of the fleet to F version started in 2016
Boeing Magazine
Boeing web
Modernization announced (in spanish)

Thank you very much.

RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:12 am
by VIF2NE
The DB wants to have the units:
The cargo discharged from the aircraft.
The cargo discharged from a vessel.
Floating debris.
Floating wreckage.

RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:36 pm
by hellfish6
Floating wreckage and floating debris could actually be kinda cool if LUA'd to a sinking/sunk ship.