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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:50 pm
by rkr1958
Sorry, forgot. In the air-to-air target the bombers if possible. So, abort the bomber.

US CVP units will stay until the status of all bombers are resolved.

RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:35 am
by ashkpa
Here is the result of the A-A combat, it went 5 rounds. First two rounds were exactly symmetric rolls. You took my lead bomber out and I took your lead fighter out. Both cleared the best bomber. After that it got more ugly for the US, though another Japanese bomber was aborted.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:36 am
by ashkpa
AA results favored the US, when a JP bomber was destroyed (the lowest A-S factor)

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:38 am
by ashkpa
Finally apply the damage. First up comes the Japanese who do X 2D 2A. First X on the Essex, which makes it's saving throw.
US get to decide on the first D and the first A.

On the other side, I believe the Axis will get a D A result against their ships. The US gets to place the first A. I don't have a good image (need to go back to earlier posts), since I cannot save at this point.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:52 pm
by rkr1958
USN will apply D to CA Chicago. Then A to any damaged CV first, damaged CA next and CA Houston after that.

Apply A to 3 or 4 capacity carrier with highest air to sea factors on board.

The USN will NOT stay for a round 2. Abort/damaged ships all go back to Pearl.

RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:44 pm
by ashkpa
USN will apply D to CA Chicago. Then A to any damaged CV first, damaged CA next and CA Houston after that.

Apply A to 3 or 4 capacity carrier with highest air to sea factors on board.

The USN will NOT stay for a round 2. Abort/damaged ships all go back to Pearl.
Assume you meant to apply the D against Japan with the same directions. In Naval-Air combat the "attacker" chooses the first result.

RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:27 pm
by rkr1958
ORIGINAL: ashkpa
USN will apply D to CA Chicago. Then A to any damaged CV first, damaged CA next and CA Houston after that.

Apply A to 3 or 4 capacity carrier with highest air to sea factors on board.

The USN will NOT stay for a round 2. Abort/damaged ships all go back to Pearl.
Assume you meant to apply the D against Japan with the same directions. In Naval-Air combat the "attacker" chooses the first result.
Yes, that. [:)]

RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:06 am
by ashkpa
So, the rest of the damage. Good early rolls for the US limited the damage, but in the end the Essex was sunk. The Japanese carrier targeted was aborted (passed it's damage roll).


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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:18 am
by ashkpa
{edit - forgot to mention the air planes aborted to Kwajalein}

On the abort back to Pearl, the US ships had to make it through sub infested waters. The first group (the ships that took aborts during the combat) were not sighted on a roll of 3. Needed at 2 to find them in rain. The second group of ships were found on a roll of 1. The allies then rolled a 7 (it may have been a 6) resulting in 8 SP for the Japanese, with only the aborting ships fighting through from the 0-box involved. Japan used 4 SP to choose a surface battle. The JP used 3 of the last 4 surprise points to select the ship to take the D and choose the Bunker Hill. It was surprised and damaged in the attack. The allies then inflicted severe damage on the subs (damage) and aborted them from the zone.

Note, I was surprised when the program then asked me to land the carrier planes, though it did not let me change which carriers they were on (I think). I did not know that carrier planes were flown during a surface battle and always have played in f-t-f games that they stayed on the same carriers they started on.

In the end, I believe the JP lost 1 CVP to AA. The allies lost the Essex with 1 CVP, 1 CVP shot down during air-air combat, and another CV damaged. Net gain for the axis, but I spent more oil that I really need to save.

This finished the naval combat phase and the allies had no options of initiating any further combat.

{Second edit. Note, I never committed your subs or my subs to the combat, yours are still in the Mariannas}

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:20 pm
by ashkpa
MA43 Ground Strikes: Two, Stalingrad with ART and SE of Moscow with a tank buster. You have two planes (circled) that can intercept and I have 3 that can counter intercept (all visible in the image).

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:35 pm
by rkr1958
Both Red fighters intercept.

RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:42 pm
by ashkpa
Ground results. Air-Air cleared the Tank Buster and shot down the RU fighter (pilot survived).
Art missed both of its targets and the Tank Buster hit both of its targets.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:47 am
by ashkpa
There were no axis land attacks. A rare occurrence in a clear MJ impulse.

RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:52 pm
by rkr1958
Turn 23. May/June 1943. Allied #4. Actions.

Note that the USA played an o-chit and reorganized all their HQ units.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:10 pm
by rkr1958
Turn 23. May/June 1943. USN, Pacific. Contested Sea Areas (The Solomons, Central Pacific, The Marianas). No Combat.

The USA added no additional units to these sea areas and will not attempt to initiate combat.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:15 pm
by rkr1958
Turn 23. May/June 1943. USN & RN. The Atlantic. Contested Sea Areas (Cape St. Vincent & Faeroes Gap). No Combat.

The USN and RN added no additional units to these sea areas and will not attempt to initiate combat.

This leaves two sea areas in which the USN will attempt to initiate naval combat. One in the Pacific (Bismarck Sea) and one in the Atlantic (Bay of Biscay).


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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:27 pm
by rkr1958
Turn 23. May/June 1943. Allied #4. Attempted Naval Combat. Bay of Biscay.

The USN is attempting to initiate a naval combat in the Bay of Biscay. The allies will react out one fighter to the 2-box.

Do the axis wish to react out any additional air units?

Instructions for the battle?

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:34 pm
by rkr1958
Turn 23. May/June 1943. Allied #4. Attempted Naval Combat. Bismarck Sea.

The allies choose not to react out any additional air units. The Japanese have no in position that can. So, search proceeds with the allies missing badly (10) and the Japanese finding.

Instructions?

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:24 pm
by ashkpa
Turn 23. May/June 1943. Allied #4. Attempted Naval Combat. Bay of Biscay.

The USN is attempting to initiate a naval combat in the Bay of Biscay. The allies will react out one fighter to the 2-box.

Do the axis wish to react out any additional air units?

Instructions for the battle?
I will not react any units out. I will avoid if possible.

RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:39 pm
by ashkpa
Turn 23. May/June 1943. Allied #4. Attempted Naval Combat. Bismarck Sea.

The allies choose not to react out any additional air units. The Japanese have no in position that can. So, search proceeds with the allies missing badly (10) and the Japanese finding.

Instructions?
The JP aircraft spot multiple ships, but decide to concentrate on the CVs (engage 3-box only). If I will spend up to 8 SP to alter the air-air combat in the following order +1 for me, -1 to you, another +1 for me, and last another -2 for you. I believe I have 8 SP, but not quite sure.

Make put the Seiku in front for the bombers. If I lose (abort or shot down) both fighters and you have both fighters or my lead bomber is not the Seiku, then the bombers abort.