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That's a nice outline Pauk-San [:)]

Unfortunately Balikpapan is hit so hard from the air that I don't think it will hold out for more than 1-2 days.
I agree with your assessment - Andy will have to use amph invasions to capture any significant base before Malaya.
I'm slowly moving reinforcements from India there, reinforcing Georgetown with large base force and SNLF unit. A tank regiment
is heading to Singapore. A little low on reinforcements for Java and northern Borneo though. Not sure were they can be taken from.
The Palaus/Marianas is my only 'strategic reserve'!

Still, Soerabaja, Benjarmasan, Singapore, Palembang, and Batavia are all well  defended. Singkawan is also digging in and I just moved an
SNLF unit there. Any Allied offensive in this area will be painful, but if I can move out the resource and oil reserves we should be stocked
for another year. Sent a huge convoy to India were it will suck up all oil and resources and supplies.

Will retrain my interceptors and use them for defense of strategic important locations.
Java is well stocked with aviation units and base forces. Same with Palembang, Singapore etc. No 'freebies'! [;)]  

Didn't think of that! Sent a mail to Andy and told him that only AA and not more Corsairs will stand in the way of the Zeke Kamis.
One wrong surely doesn't make another ok, but I'm very much in the eye for an eye mood in WitP right now [;)]

Andy wasn't delighted to hear about the ability of high altitude Zekes to go through his CAP.
Here is the mail I sent him:

[font=arial]After testing Kamis I noticed that some of your fighters couldn't intercept those at the highest altitudes.[/font][/align][font=arial]Most of my ac got a lower max altitude...but the Zeke can go up to 38.5k feet. Yesterday was the first attempt against[/font][/align][font=arial]Hellcats and Corsairs.

Diving at targets from high altitude was an approach, sure they could be intercepted but not always - like[/font][/align][font=arial]they are by  the Uber CAP that shoots down 399/400 attacking ac and makes your fleet invincible.
This is just as crazy, but you haven't reduced your CAP to make the effect less devastating either. Can't say I have[/font][/align][font=arial]expected you to do so either.

As I mentioned earlier, all what the Japs could do in 42 the Allies can do with a vengeance in 44. The KB was vulnerable in 42 despite[/font][/align][font=arial]its heavy CAP and in late 43 you shot down 350 CAP fighters in one battle and crippled it :p). True, o[/font][font=arial]ne wrong doesn't make up for another,
but I don't have much do strike [/font][font=arial]back with anymore and I'm getting a bit desperate. What shall I threaten your fleets with, a candy[/font][/align][font=arial]stick?-) I think the threat of [/font][font=arial]high altitude Zeke kamis will keep you alert and perhaps prevent you from jumping too deep each time you advance.[/font][/align][font=arial]You have played exeptionally well - but your advance looks like a shoe string

[/font][font=arial][/font][font=arial]Half of the Zeke Daitais have already been taken out on the sunken carriers and I don't [/font][font=arial]have many trained ones to sacrifice, and believe me..
green kamis aint' worth dip shit. [/font][font=arial]How many [/font][font=arial]of those 40-50 that attacked your fleet over the last 2 days managed to score hits...1? If I send in 400[/font][/align][font=arial]maybe 10% of them will score hits? The kami threat will not be greater for you than it was historically. 

For a full year the TFs under the Uber CAP umbrella have been untouchable from the air[/font][font=arial]. Do you really think this is how it should be throughout[/font][/align][font=arial]the rest of the game? Or can it be that a limited Zeke kami threat could be a new challenge for you - like it was for the Yanks in WWII? 
Historically dozens of Allied carriers and destroyers were damaged and sunk by kamis. I will not overdo it, trust me - I want [/font][font=arial]to use them more as a
threat and inflict casualties - especially in last ditch defenses against a seemingly invulnerable enemy.

Think about it and perhaps we can come to some sort of 'agreement' in how the Zeke kamis should be used that would make the game more[/font][/align][font=arial]interesting for the both of us - and for the ones reading our AARs! [/font][/align][font=arial][/font] [/align][font=arial]John[/font][/align]

Andy will not say it's ok, but he will go on with the game... Fine with me, here is the reply I sent him:
[font=arial]
 If we were playing Niks mod I would have lowered their altitude, and will [/font][font=arial]in future games, but we're [/font][font=arial]not...and I'm a bit pragmatic,  like you!-)[/font]

Congrats on soon to be >100 pages. Its not just the quantity but the quality that makes it good. [:)]

PzB,
 
Sounds good to me. Certainly Andy won't like it BUT this is no more unfair than maintaining his fighter CAP at such high levels as to be able to benefit from UeberCAP. In any case as you've said yourself. Zekes aren't going to be sending his CVs, BBs and CAs to Davey Jones any time soon. Sure they may knock off a few secondary systems and send these ships back to the repair yards but not much more than that...
 
I don't think you should let any hue and cry to get you to give up one of the few reliable ways you still have left to hit back ( and it isn't even hit back ery effectively ).

ORIGINAL: ChezDaJez

PzB, I have had several debacles with reaction settings. An aggressive TF commander will over ride the settings EVERY TIME!

I once had two heavily damaged CVs (damage >50% and whose airwings had aborted to the nearest island) totally ignore their orders to withdraw and react in the opposite direction towards 3 allied CVs. Needless to say they were blown out of the water.

The only thing you can do to prevent it is to assign a less agrresive commander.

Chez

Was the TF still an air combat TF? While not disputing the general concern, I would have thought setting the TF type to escort for the situation you describe would have led to no reaction.

Changing the Air Combat TF to a Transport TF after is created erases the reaction movement permanently

Was the TF still an air combat TF? While not disputing the general concern, I would have thought setting the TF type to escort for the situation you describe would have led to no reaction.

Yes that will work... setting it to escort TF. That was a lesson learned the hard way.

There is a catch though. Your carriers will not launch any strikes even if the most juicy target comes along, assuming the carriers are capable of flight ops. Also, if the enemy comes after you, the carriers will only launch CAP.

Still, it can prevent being sunk if you can move fast enough.

Chez

Yes, Escort Carrier mission is wise...unless you intend to attack! Still a problem for more offensively
minded missions.

Thx Anarchy! 100 pages...that's quite a bit. How long have we been at it, 2+ years? [:)]

High altitude kamis have their limitations: they will only get through to enemy TFs not protected
by P47s and P38s. I don't intend to make them into an uber weapon, but it's a pitty that this is what I
have to do to manage to score a few hits on the enemy. Playing throgh 44 and 45 without getting a single
bomber through to enemy ships protected by an Uber CAP is quite devastating for playability.

Still, conventional bombers got us another cve today!

I have planned major sorties against Balik tomorrow: Sweeps will reduce enemy CAP and numerous bombers
will try to hit the invasion fleet. All flying from Northern Borneo with a max range that should exclude TFs outside
the base hex. A reduced number of enemy fighters should also allow more troops to be transported in from Kendari.

Next turn came in now....

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/08/44

Surface Combat

An empty transport...just finished unloading supplies.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Banjarmasin at 27,64

Japanese Ships
AK Fukoku Maru, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Ralph Talbot
DD Henley
DD McCall
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Balikpapan at 31,64

Japanese Ships
AG AG-366, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
AG AG-5088, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Newcomb
DD William Porter
DD Porterfield
DD Stephen Potter
DD Schroeder
DD Norman Scott
DD Sproston
DD Stanly
DD Sampson
DD Morris
DD Roe
DD Mahan
DD Cushing
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Bombardments

Naval bombardment of Balikpapan, at 31,64

Allied Ships
BB Alabama
BB Massachusetts
BB South Dakota
BB Washington

Japanese ground losses:
236 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
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Naval bombardment of Balikpapan, at 31,64

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CL St. Louis
CL Mobile
CA Indianapolis
CA Louisville
BB Richelieu
BB New Jersey
BB Iowa

Japanese ground losses:
257 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 28
Port hits 8
Port fuel hits 6
Port supply hits 13
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Invasions

Coastal Guns at Balikpapan, 31,64, firing at TF 1054
TF 1054 troops unloading over beach at Balikpapan, 31,64

87 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DE Burden R. Hastings
DE Lake
DD Fanning

Allied ground losses:
1111 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 3
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Coastal Guns at Balikpapan, 31,64, firing at TF 1166
TF 1166 troops unloading over beach at Balikpapan, 31,64

35 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied ground losses:
758 casualties reported
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Coastal Guns at Balikpapan, 31,64, firing at TF 1054
TF 1054 troops unloading over beach at Balikpapan, 31,64


64 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DE Griswold, Shell hits 1
AK Murzim
DE Burden R. Hastings, Shell hits 1
DD Flusser, Shell hits 2, on fire
DE Lovering

Allied ground losses:
1174 casualties reported
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Coastal Guns at Balikpapan, 31,64, firing at TF 1166
TF 1166 troops unloading over beach at Balikpapan, 31,64

18 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DE Stadtfeld, Shell hits 1, on fire
DE Wileman, Shell hits 1


Allied ground losses:
743 casualties reported


Sub/ASW Attacks

Minelaying sub...

ASW attack near Balikpapan at 31,64

Japanese Ships
SS I-55, hits 9

Allied Ships
DD Wadleigh
DD Thatcher
DD Terry
DD David Taylor
DD Taylor
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Air Combat

Day Air attack on Balikpapan , at 31,64

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Mosquito PR.IX x 6
B-29 Superfortress x 60

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 27
Port hits 8
Port supply hits 2
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Somehow the 'Grace' on Kami missions flet a ground attack mission against
Tomini. Must be a bug: Select 'all bombers' and this will include kamis that shouldn't
be allowed to fly ground attack missions.

Day Air attack on Tomini , at 34,65

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 11
B7A Grace x 23
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 12
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 8

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 6
Kittyhawk III x 2
P-40N Warhawk x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed
B7A Grace: 23 destroyed
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed
Kittyhawk III: 1 destroyed
P-40N Warhawk: 2 destroyed
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Moved 80 interceptors to Kendari today!

Day Air attack on Kendari , at 33,71

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 30
B-29 Superfortress x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-57-II Topsy: 5 destroyed
L3Y Tina: 3 destroyed
L2D2 Tabby: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported

Airbase hits 9
Runway hits 16
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Day Air attack on TF at 33,65

Allied aircraft
Corsair IV x 1
TBM Avenger x 15

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Koshu Maru #3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF, near Wasile at 41,69

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 2

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 7
F6F Hellcat x 1
F4U-1 Corsair x 6
F4U-1D Corsair x 9
Kittyhawk III x 4
P-38J Lightning x 94

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 2 destroyed
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All high altitude Zekes shot down by P38s.

Day Air attack on TF, near Wasile at 41,69

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 14

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 7
F6F Hellcat x 1
F4U-1 Corsair x 6
F4U-1D Corsair x 9
Kittyhawk III x 4
P-38J Lightning x 94

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 14 destroyed
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Enemy carrier attacks:

Day Air attack on TF at 34,62

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 7
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 10

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 113
F4U-1D Corsair x 43
Corsair IV x 1
TBM Avenger x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 6 destroyed
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 13 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 6 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Aden Maru
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Day Air attack on TF at 34,62


Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 4
F4U-1D Corsair x 17

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Aden Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire
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Day Air attack on TF at 34,63

Allied aircraft
Corsair IV x 1
TBM Avenger x 19

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Fumishima Maru, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
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Conventional attack from Palau hits enemy supply train!

Day Air attack on TF at 47,76

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 17
G4M2 Betty x 20

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 36
Kittyhawk I x 3
Kittyhawk III x 6
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 10 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 11 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 12 damaged
Kittyhawk I: 1 damaged
Kittyhawk III: 1 damaged
Beaufighter Mk 21: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
LST LST-274
CVE Steamer Bay
CVE Hoggatt Bay, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage [:D]

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Most kamis - high altitude - were shot down by P47s and P38s. The few
Zekes that got through missed the cve!

Day Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan at 31,64

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 23
B7A Grace x 13

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 61
F6F Hellcat x 18
F4U-1D Corsair x 2
Kittyhawk III x 4
P-40N Warhawk x 4
P-38J Lightning x 5
P-47D Thunderbolt x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 23 destroyed
B7A Grace: 13 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Kitkun Bay
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Ground Combat

Shock attack reduced forts with 3 lvls - tomorrow 1.5 Bdes will reach Balik from
Samarinda. Marched 45/60 miles. The South Seas Detachement was also ordered to
march today. Can we wear out the enemy? Probably not, but we'll try. 170 transport
at Kendari will fly in more troops from a crack division.

Ground combat at Balikpapan

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 55092 troops, 676 guns, 166 vehicles, Assault Value = 1369

Defending force 25463 troops, 173 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 291

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 8

Allied max assault: 1884 - adjusted assault: 557

Japanese max defense: 170 - adjusted defense: 171

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 8)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 6

Japanese ground losses:
893 casualties reported
Guns lost 12

Allied ground losses:
919 casualties reported
Guns lost 46
Vehicles lost 2
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Borneo Debacle

Most defensive and offensive efforts are so pathetic that I would have been a bit embarrassed if I were Andy [8|]
It seems like kamis take off in many small waves - a 100% way to get shot down by CAP.

Andy move troops into Samarinda - can't have believed a small number would capture the place. So I guess he knew
he would stop our troops from marching to Balik. An attack on Balikpapan reduces forts to 1. The place will fall tomorrow.

We manage to intercept a damaged cve with a cruiser, only to witness another abortive attack.
Placing ac and ships in the right position just isn't enough these days.

The light carrier Ibuki - 27 ac - is bugged. She refuses to operate her Grace group with 27 ac. Several times she has been close
to enemy transports and not even a recon sighting.

So the game is very frustrating these days: We don't have any ways of getting to the enemy as long as he hides under his Uber CAP
unbrella. I have ordered several hundred cargo ships to pick up resources from Karachi to Batavi and all the way up to Port Arthur.
Should be able to scrounge another 3 months supplies me thinks.

The crack division from the Marianas will reinforce Borneo. Andy can march to Tarakan and Benjarmisan: can't prevent that. So most
troops will go to northern Borneo. More will be moved from the Palaus/Marianas to the PI, Formosa and Okinawa. Chinese troops are
marching towards the coast.

The Fleet will be based in Takao or Hong Kong and cruiser units will attempt to harass the enemys very long and exposed supply
routes. I'm sending a lot of fighter groups to China were they will train and prepare for the next phase of the battle. I intend to use large
numbers of kamis the next time Andy jumps. He can scream all the way he wants [:D] I'm SO ready for a little payback....

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/09/44

Surface Combat

This one REALLY annoyed me. Sent in the Noshiro to intercept the damaged
cve that was hit by 2 torps yesterday. Arrived in the right place...and the crippled
cve lands a 5" shells and the battle ends [:@] Sometimes I hate this game.

Night Time Surface Combat at 47,77

Japanese Ships
CL Noshiro, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
CVE Hoggatt Bay, on fire, heavy damage
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Sub/ASW Attacks

2 enemy subs reported sunk today!

Sub attack at 36,46

Japanese Ships
PG Kanko Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
PG Kyo Maru #10
PG Keiko Maru
MSW Toshi Maru #7
MSW Toshi Maru #2
MSW Kyo Maru #3

Allied Ships
SS Plaice
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Invasions

Andy told me he wanted to try a Coup de Main! 2 days ago he told me he
was unsure whether to attack Balikpapan or Samarinda as there were equally
many troops there. So I'm not sure what he hoped to achieve. My troops marching
to Balik halted because of the way ground combat is designed. Great....

TF 1098 encounters mine field at Samarinda (31,63)

Allied Ships
MSW Buoyant
MSW Kingfisher
MSW Tern
MSW Robin
MSW Bittern
MSW Lark
CL St. Louis, Mine hits 1
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TF 1098 encounters mine field at Samarinda (31,63)

TF 1098 troops unloading over beach at Samarinda, 31,63

Allied Ships
MSW Buoyant
MSW Kingfisher
MSW Tern
MSW Robin
MSW Bittern
MSW Lark
DE Harold C. Thomas
DE Tisdale
DE Whitman
DE Wileman
CL St. Louis, Mine hits 1

Coastal Guns at Samarinda, 31,63, firing at TF 1098
270 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
DE Tisdale, Shell hits 1
AP McCawley
AK Amador
DE Harold C. Thomas
AP W.A. Holbrook, Shell hits 2
AP Doyen, Shell hits 3
DE Whitman
LCI(G) LCI(G)-76, Shell hits 3
AK Situla
AK Phobos, Shell hits 1
LCI(G) LCI(G)-78

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
533 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 2
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Coastal Guns at Samarinda, 31,63, firing at TF 1098
TF 1098 troops unloading over beach at Samarinda, 31,63

183 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
AK Autauga, Shell hits 1, on fire
DE Wileman, Shell hits 1
DE Harold C. Thomas, Shell hits 5, on fire
AK Alderamin, Shell hits 3, on fire
DE Whitman, Shell hits 2, on fire
DE Wyman, Shell hits 4
AK Situla, Shell hits 2
AK Phobos
DE Tisdale

Allied ground losses:
490 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 9
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Air Combat

Only Tarakan was shrouded in clouds today - so my main sweep over Balikpapan
never materialized.

Day Air attack on Balikpapan , at 31,64

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 3

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 5
Spitfire VIII x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 2 destroyed
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Day Air attack on Balikpapan , at 31,64

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 1

Allied aircraft
Mosquito PR.IX x 7
PB4Y Liberator x 11
B-29 Superfortress x 80

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 4 destroyed
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 64
Port hits 2
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Day Air attack on 37th Ind.Mixed/A Brigade, at 31,64

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 1

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 35
F6F Hellcat x 59
F4U-1D Corsair x 26
Corsair IV x 1
SB2C Helldiver x 123
TBM Avenger x 44

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
128 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
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Day Air attack on 37th Ind.Mixed/B Brigade, at 31,64

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 2
F6F Hellcat x 40
F4U-1D Corsair x 29
SB2C Helldiver x 14
TBM Avenger x 18

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Now this was an effective sweep...

Day Air attack on 40th USA Division, at 31,64

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 19

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 2
F6F Hellcat x 13
F4U-1 Corsair x 8
Spitfire VIII x 3
Kittyhawk III x 3
P-40N Warhawk x 11
P-47D Thunderbolt x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 19 destroyed
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24-2....?

Day Air attack on 40th USA Division, at 31,64

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 24

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 2
F6F Hellcat x 13
F4U-1 Corsair x 8
Spitfire VIII x 3
Kittyhawk III x 3
P-40N Warhawk x 11
P-47D Thunderbolt x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 24 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40N Warhawk: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
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Throughout the day my air strikes took of in dribs and drabs. Again it's impossible
to coordinate strikes.

Day Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan at 31,64

Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 21

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 2
F6F Hellcat x 13
F4U-1 Corsair x 8
Spitfire VIII x 3
Kittyhawk III x 3
P-40N Warhawk x 10
P-47D Thunderbolt x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y Frances: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 4 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan at 31,64

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 9

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 2
F6F Hellcat x 13
F4U-1 Corsair x 8
Spitfire VIII x 3
Kittyhawk III x 3
P-40N Warhawk x 10
P-47D Thunderbolt x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 9 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 damaged
Kittyhawk III: 1 damaged
P-40N Warhawk: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF at 30,65

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 17
F6F Hellcat x 84
F4U-1D Corsair x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF, near Samarinda at 31,63

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 40
F6F Hellcat x 30
F4U-1D Corsair x 3
F6F-5N Hellcat x 10
Spitfire VIII x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged
Spitfire VIII: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF, near Samarinda at 31,63

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 40
F6F Hellcat x 30
F4U-1D Corsair x 3
F6F-5N Hellcat x 10
Spitfire VIII x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged
Spitfire VIII: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan at 31,64

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 3
Ki-21 Sally x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 2
F6F Hellcat x 13
F4U-1 Corsair x 8
Spitfire VIII x 3
Kittyhawk III x 3
P-40N Warhawk x 10
P-47D Thunderbolt x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 3 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
LST LST-180
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Day Air attack on 40th USA Division, at 31,64

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 18

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 9
F4U-1 Corsair x 8
Spitfire VIII x 4
Kittyhawk III x 4
P-40N Warhawk x 7
P-47D Thunderbolt x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 10 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF, near Tarakan at 33,61

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 13
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 1
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 1

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 3
F4U-1D Corsair x 4
TBM Avenger x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AK Shigure Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Tarakan at 33,61

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 13
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 1
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 1

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 4
F4U-1D Corsair x 2
TBM Avenger x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AK Aden Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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They call this a strike? 100 bombers stayed home and all fighters took of with 3 kamis!

Day Air attack on TF, near Samarinda at 31,63

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 27
Ki-21 Sally x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 43
F6F Hellcat x 25
F4U-1D Corsair x 2
F6F-5N Hellcat x 10
Spitfire VIII x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 22 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan at 31,64

Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 17

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 21
F4U-1 Corsair x 8
F4U-1D Corsair x 2
Spitfire VIII x 3
Kittyhawk III x 4
P-40N Warhawk x 7
P-47D Thunderbolt x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y Frances: 2 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan at 31,64

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 3

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 18
F4U-1 Corsair x 5
F4U-1D Corsair x 1
Spitfire VIII x 1
Kittyhawk III x 3
P-40N Warhawk x 5
P-47D Thunderbolt x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF, near Samarinda at 31,63

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 3
Ki-21 Sally x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 43
F6F Hellcat x 25
F4U-1D Corsair x 2
F6F-5N Hellcat x 10
Spitfire VIII x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged
Spitfire VIII: 2 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF, near Samarinda at 31,63

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 43
F6F Hellcat x 25
F4U-1D Corsair x 2
F6F-5N Hellcat x 10
Spitfire VIII x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan at 31,64

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 12

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 21
F4U-1 Corsair x 8
F4U-1D Corsair x 2
Spitfire VIII x 3
Kittyhawk III x 4
P-40N Warhawk x 7
P-47D Thunderbolt x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 12 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 damaged
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Ground Combat

Tomorrow Balikpapan will fall, no way to undo that!

Ground combat at Samarinda

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16708 troops, 134 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 452

Defending force 5981 troops, 92 guns, 65 vehicles, Assault Value = 56

Allied ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at Balikpapan

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 54109 troops, 607 guns, 166 vehicles, Assault Value = 1293

Defending force 25626 troops, 200 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 301

Allied max assault: 1858 - adjusted assault: 1529

Japanese max defense: 186 - adjusted defense: 267

Allied assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 6)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Japanese ground losses:
544 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
734 casualties reported
Guns lost 21
Vehicles lost 4
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Ground combat at Samarinda

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 1381 troops, 53 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 56

Defending force 19969 troops, 145 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 452

Allied max assault: 6 - adjusted assault: 0

Japanese max defense: 406 - adjusted defense: 397

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 7)

Japanese ground losses:
74 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
67 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
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The most annoying surface battle...

The last air effort against the enemy fleet at Balikpapan is mostly frustrated by piecemeal
attacks that are all shot down by the CAP. Some kamis get through and sink a landing craft
and damages a transport. Very limited results for the loss of some 30-40 Zekes.

I am moving interceptors to the key bases in the region: Soerabaja, Palembang and Brunei.
Once again the training camps in China are receiving raw recruits. We have to train a new cadre
while the enemy secures his hold of the southern SRA.

Even Andy must take a break from further offensive actions now: his carriers have been operating
non-stop since the abortive Marianas campaign. Hopefully he will take a somewhat realistic course of
action and secure a more soild supply line before he pushes on.

The output of Nakajima engines has been increased again - an effort to secure a bigger pool of reserve
engines. Research on the Reppu is also increased while construction of most cargo and troop ships is halted.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/10/44

Invasions

Coastal Guns at Samarinda, 31,63, firing at TF 1098
TF 1098 troops unloading over beach at Samarinda, 31,63

78 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
AK Libra
DE Tisdale

Allied ground losses:
188 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1
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Coastal Guns at Samarinda, 31,63, firing at TF 1098
TF 1098 troops unloading over beach at Samarinda, 31,63

192 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
AK Libra
DE Wyman
LCI(G) LCI(G)-77, Shell hits 2
LCI(G) LCI(G)-76, Shell hits 2, on fire
DE Tisdale
DE Whitman, Shell hits 2
AK Alderamin, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
341 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 15
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Air Combat

Day Air attack on Samarinda , at 31,63


Allied aircraft
PB4Y Liberator x 3
B-29 Superfortress x 84


Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Airbase hits 20
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 111
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Day Air attack on 5th Division, at 31,64

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 37
F6F Hellcat x 99
F4U-1D Corsair x 54
Corsair IV x 1
SB2C Helldiver x 133
TBM Avenger x 59

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
268 casualties reported
Guns lost 13
Vehicles lost 1
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Day Air attack on TF, near Samarinda at 31,63

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 2

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 42
F6F Hellcat x 30
F4U-1D Corsair x 3
F6F-5N Hellcat x 10
Spitfire VIII x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 2 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF, near Aitape at 51,80

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIb Nick x 2

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 15
Kittyhawk III x 16
P-40N Warhawk x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIb Nick: 2 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF, near Samarinda at 31,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 17
B7A Grace x 3
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 8
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 9
Ki-48 Lily x 15

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 42
F6F Hellcat x 30
F4U-1D Corsair x 3
F6F-5N Hellcat x 10
Spitfire VIII x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 16 destroyed
B7A Grace: 3 destroyed
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 7 destroyed
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 9 destroyed
Ki-48 Lily: 15 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
F6F-5N Hellcat: 2 damaged
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF, near Samarinda at 31,63

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 11
G4M2 Betty x 6
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 28

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 38
F6F Hellcat x 28
F4U-1D Corsair x 3
F6F-5N Hellcat x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 11 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 6 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 25 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 9 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 5 damaged
F6F-5N Hellcat: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan at 31,64

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 20

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 2
F6F Hellcat x 7
F4U-1 Corsair x 9
Spitfire VIII x 2
Kittyhawk III x 1
P-40N Warhawk x 3
P-47D Thunderbolt x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 20 destroyed

Allied Ships
AP Wayne, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire
LCI(G) LCI(G)-82, Kamikaze hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF, near Samarinda at 31,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 4
B7A Grace x 10
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 2
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 2

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 38
F6F Hellcat x 28
F4U-1D Corsair x 3
F6F-5N Hellcat x 10
Spitfire VIII x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed
B7A Grace: 10 destroyed
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
DE Harold C. Thomas
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Day Air attack on TF at 51,78

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIb Nick x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIb Nick: 12 destroyed

Allied Ships
TK J.A. Moffett, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire
TK Samuel Q Brown
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Day Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan at 31,64

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 2
F6F Hellcat x 7
F4U-1 Corsair x 9
Spitfire VIII x 2
Kittyhawk III x 1
P-40N Warhawk x 3
P-47D Thunderbolt x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
LST LST-170, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire
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Day Air attack on TF, near Samarinda at 31,63

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48 Lily x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 29
F6F Hellcat x 34
F4U-1D Corsair x 3
F6F-5N Hellcat x 9
Spitfire VIII x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 2 damaged
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Ground Combat

Enemy landings at Samarinda aborts all troop movements in the base and
Balikpapan falls!

Ground combat at Samarinda

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16601 troops, 129 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 447

Defending force 8105 troops, 106 guns, 135 vehicles, Assault Value = 80


Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Balikpapan

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 53621 troops, 568 guns, 165 vehicles, Assault Value = 1239

Defending force 24294 troops, 181 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 273

Allied max assault: 2078 - adjusted assault: 1844

Japanese max defense: 173 - adjusted defense: 205

Allied assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied forces CAPTURE Balikpapan base !!!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 1 destroyed
A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
1221 casualties reported
Guns lost 15
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
496 casualties reported
Guns lost 21
Vehicles lost 1
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Balikpapan falls!

When the enemy ships leaves the area I will try to harass them with subs, mines, kamikaze and surface fleets.
Enemy supply convoys of Northern PNG are also priority targets. It can't be easy to move supplies and fuel through this narrow corridor.
A kamikaze put a fuel tanker ablaze today and several cruisers and naval bombers are operation out of Palau.

As a curiosity: I saved 2 George, 2 Frank and 1 Zeke group from destruction at Balikpapan using the following method after all their ac and pilots

were stranded; A single George/Frank/Zeke fragment was moved to Balikpapan and disbanded into the stranded units. This allowed 1 ac of the mother

group to be safely moved out. When Andy captured Balikpapan and destroyed the damaged ac there the pilots were re-united with the mother group



This is a good way to save valuable air groups from destruction - kinda unfortunate that all excess pilots stay with damage ac. Should be possible to transfer

them...somewhere



Attaching an overview of recent air losses. This is what the loss list has looked like over the last week or so. Very disheartening and I try not to keep count.

Will do my outmost to train my pilots and only committ the best units enmasse in future battles. They get chewed up so easily by the bloody A2A combat and

enemy bombardments.

List of total air losses:

Enemy Hellcat losses have been especially heavy: This indiactes how hard Andy has driven his carriers in an attempt to
crush my defenses outside his LBA zone of controll. I agree that he should have been allowed more of them and pilots...still
he should maybe have noticed this deficit before his pools were empty!?-)

Intelligence overview:

ORIGINAL: PzB

List of total air losses:

Not trying to accuse Andy or something[:)], but i've noticed that he is very careless and devil may care about ac in our game too, very early in the game and more than once:

look at his Wildcats losses!:

Time for a quick look at sunk ships. I don't have the kudos to count AK/AP/TK/MSW/PC/SC [;)]
 
Allied losses:
CV: 4
CVL: 1
CVE: 7
BB: 15
BC: 1
CA: 19
CL: 26
DD: 111
DE: 4
APD: 11
AVD: 4
DMS: 7
DM: 5
SS: 91
ML: 4
AR: 5
AS: 4
AO: 3
AE: 1
AV: 4
AD: 1
AGP: 1
MLE: 1
PT: 186 [:o]

Japan:

CV: 11
CVL: 5
CVE: 6
BB: 3
CA: 8
CL: 17
DD: 104
APD: 11
SS: 81
ML: 35!!
AV: 2
AE: 1
AO: 3

Yes, I've noticed Pauk...probably that's why he was the right guy to take over after Nomad [8|]
Still, the public on the home front in the US would have been rebellious [;)]
 
Here is what the Combined Fleet got left:
Ships in brackets (-) indicate number of damaged vessels (>20 sys damage).
 
CV: 4 (3)
CVL: 3
CVE: 3
BB: 9 (2)
CA: 10 (1)
CL: 7 (1)
DD: 62 (2)
APD: 1
SS: 13
AD: 3
AE: 1
AR: 4
AS: 9
AV: 4 (1)
CS: 2 (2)
ML: 10 (2)

So we should be able to put some 400 ac on carriers and sortie 4 battle fleets as well as a cruiser and destroyer squadron.
Thinking of resting and fixing these ships to 100% shape and save them for when Andy push towards the Home Islands.

No sign of the enemy fleets of Balikpapan [&:]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/11/44

Sub/ASW Attacks

Lots of activity today:
If subs are not moved their detection values will sky rocket and
increase the chances of hitting them. Some 91 enemy subs have been sunk
thus far.

ASW attack at 36,46

Japanese Ships
PG Kyo Maru #10
PG Keiko Maru
MSW Toshi Maru #7
MSW Toshi Maru #2
MSW Kyo Maru #3

Allied Ships
SS Plaice
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ASW attack at 35,46

Japanese Ships
MSW W.14
PC Shonan Maru #17
PG Nikkai Maru
PG Nanpo Maru
PG Chosa Maru
MSW Toshi Maru #5

Allied Ships
SS Picuda
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ASW attack at 42,50

Japanese Ships
DD Teruzuki
DD Hato
DD Chidori

Allied Ships
SS Hammerhead, hits 3
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ASW attack at 42,50

Japanese Ships
DD Hatsukari
DD Yayoi
DD Niizuki
DD Susuzuki
DD Akizuki

Allied Ships
SS Hammerhead, hits 2
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Sub laid mines:

TF 1001 encounters mine field at Balikpapan (31,64)

Allied Ships
DD Wadleigh
DD Taylor
DD Strong
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TF 1031 encounters mine field at Balikpapan (31,64)

Allied Ships
DD Izard
DD Hutchins
DD Harrison
DD Hall
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TF 1043 encounters mine field at Balikpapan (31,64)

Allied Ships
DD Caperton
DD Braine
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TF 1071 encounters mine field at Balikpapan (31,64)

Allied Ships
DD Buchanan
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TF 1081 encounters mine field at Balikpapan (31,64)

Allied Ships
DMS Boggs
DMS Hopkins
DMS Long
DD Abbot
DD Fletcher
DD Ammen, Mine hits 1, on fire - another victim!
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Air Combat

New units have been sent to China to stiffen their flying skills.

Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 48
D4Y Judy x 24
B6N Jill x 16
B7A Grace x 17
G4M2 Betty x 27
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 36
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 101

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 125
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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 139
D4Y Judy x 78
B6N Jill x 52
B7A Grace x 45
G4M2 Betty x 23

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported

Airbase hits 17
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 199
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Ground Combat

The troops that landed at Samarinda would not have been sufficient to
prevent reinforcements from reaching Balikpapan. Think I suggested a while back that
troops should be given a chance to fight their way in and out of areas contested by enemy troops.

Perhaps I should attempt a counter-attack to beat back the enemy troops at Samarinda and buy some
time? 447 assault points vs 87 should be enough to force a retreat.

Ground combat at Samarinda

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16618 troops, 131 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 447

Defending force 8379 troops, 111 guns, 142 vehicles, Assault Value = 87
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Could try John.
 
What are your supply levels and disruption/morale like with those Samrainda troops? Watch out for his armour though........

You're right Speedy, his armour will most likely kill my troops. With 425 assault points and 7 forts it will take
Andy some time and effort to capture the place. Better not whittle away our strength on futile counters.

You finished your personal agenda against Pauk San? [:D]