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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 3:31 am
by paradigmblue
ORIGINAL: Alfred
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
... Interesting that he split a unit into thirds, I guess to give him more altitude bands? ...
That isn't the reason. All those units are flying at an altitude of 10k.
Possible reasons for splitting VMF-214 include:
1. Bypass the normal weekly airframe replacement limit.
2. Have more reserve airframes on board.
3. Get lucky and obtain better leaders without expending any PPs.
4. Try to speed up pilot recovery.
5. Use up all space within 5 unit per CV limit.
Of greater interest to you should be that he is employing a VRF unit.
Alfred
(a) IJN surface fleets can be sortied without the major concern being enemy carrier aircraft
(b) NB the time to interception. If you must launch aircraft against the mobile CAP trap consider flying just above the waves. The higher the incoming altitude the earlier the warning provided by radar. Come in at 1k and his warning time might blow out even further
(c) with no Replenishment TF, if you can rotate air units in/out, you may be able to attrite his air power
In addition, split air units fly earlier when sweeping, which is useful if you want your sweeps to go in before your bombers. Not sure how useful that would be on a carrier, however.
RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 8:51 am
by Lowpe
September 16, 1943
Very disappointed.[:(] A Glen patrol from the Iboat spots this convoy, and about 90 Lillys' fail to find the target or link up with 7 Betties which did attack and miss in the heavy rain.
The DL wasn't high enough with just the one Glen pilot spotting the task force.
Lots of strange movements on the ground in Burma. Allies sweep and bomb Katha again.
RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:01 am
by Lowpe
Kodiak it is...
250 AV behind level 3 forts...but lacking heavy guns. Most units have had a splinter flown out for rebuilding.
Supposition might be too strong a word for Alfred's theory as he did have one indicator.[:)]
RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 5:49 pm
by Lowpe
At Kodiak I structured the search to avoid Kodiak proper, and set one Betty squadron up with a 2000 foot torpedo strike, but I shorted the potential escorts by 1 squadron. In hindsight, I wish I would have added it.
I am curious to see if the base reports the ships at Kodiak, and my planes fly straight into them.
Prepared to get nailed to find out, and also to show Jocke I am not afraid of flying into cap.
RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 2:51 am
by Lokasenna
Welp, Kodiak then. Even though it's not really necessary for the Aleutians. There's lots of blue south of there. If he were to take those, you wouldn't be able to resupply Kodiak and it would just wither - he could take it at leisure later. Moot now, though.
VC(F) units are the non-VRF units that arrive on CVEs. Actually intended for combat operations historically rather than replacement squadrons.
RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 11:18 am
by Lowpe
I absolutely wasn't thinking here. Another amazing allied bombardment...80% destroyed runway. Amazingly effective.
RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 12:39 pm
by Lowpe
Fun game within a game...sub frolics.
Petes are a sad substitute for Jakes or Norms, but in a pdu off game you have to use a lot of them!
RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 1:10 pm
by Lowpe
My first Sam factory is at 29 repaired, 1 damaged. It will probably take months for it to finish and start work. That is my luck! By comparison the size 60 facility is at 40 repaired 20 damaged. Both I believe where started at the get go by Olorin.
RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 4:26 pm
by Lowpe
Sept 18, 1943
RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 4:28 pm
by Lowpe
Another bombardment from heck![:(]
RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 8:17 pm
by Lowpe
Two big focused aerial focused naval attacks this day, and the targets are spotted...so we will see if they run into lrCAP.
All Allied task forces retreat back to Canada from Kodiak. Dropped only 250 AV. He will need more.
RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 2:02 pm
by Lowpe
Sept 19, 1943
Kodiak holds. Good day for Yank subs...an ak sunk, tanker damaged. I boat pummeled.
RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 2:52 pm
by Lowpe
Sept 20, 1943
Well, Jocke knows how to put a surface bombardment group together. I don't think I have ever seen such effective ones.
Rabaul bombarded, and he picks the night I chose to sent 10 destroyers on a fast transport mission.
A midget sub launches, and misses. A cruiser and destroyer are hit with mines...and then the bombardment comes in.
Just one bombardment group.[:(] No bombers following up or anything.
RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 2:54 pm
by Lowpe
Kaboom.[;)] During the day my returning destroyers run into one of his SAGs...
RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 2:55 pm
by Lowpe
Allied bombardment group...
RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 3:19 pm
by jwolf
That's pretty amazing for ONE bombardment!! [X(] Are you going to try to use some of your big ships to discourage this sort of thing? Or rely on DDs and subs? Or ... all of the above?
RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 3:51 pm
by Lowpe
Probably not. Just fall back. That would be a fight heavily in Allies favor...no surprise, just slugging it out.
DP and CD guns didn't fire, or were ineffective. At least the mines got something. If the Allies are good Rabaul will never be functional again.
RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 3:51 pm
by Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Sept 20, 1943
Well, Jocke knows how to put a surface bombardment group together. I don't think I have ever seen such effective ones.
Rabaul bombarded, and he picks the night I chose to sent 10 destroyers on a fast transport mission.
A midget sub launches, and misses. A cruiser and destroyer are hit with mines...and then the bombardment comes in.
Just one bombardment group.[:(] No bombers following up or anything.
...stacking? Too many eggs in one basket?
RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 6:41 pm
by Lowpe
Level 9 runway...
RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 6:43 pm
by Lowpe
Sept 21, 1943
Rabaul bombed. I elected not to put LRCAP and CAP (from Rufes) expecting some Lightning sweeps. But just bombers.
Defenders in good shape, runways absolutely trashed.
