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RE: CleverDevils2 AAR

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:58 pm
by gwheelock
Yah; but like I said earlier; this was actually an "oops" in that I forgot to place the factors & then
clicked past the nag screen too fast.

RE: CleverDevils2 AAR

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:49 am
by bresh
Its been a while with any images from the Turkish empire ?
 
If he is doing so well, would be nice to see.
 
Regards
Bresh

RE: CleverDevils2 AAR

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:09 pm
by gwheelock
Most of the other players don't post battle results.   (& we really havn't had any major battles
since the end of the French/Austrian war and the battle where Russia lost its eastern army)
However; I expect the 4th coalition wars to start soon [:D]
 
It is currently the land phase of Dec of 1806.  I plan to post a set of end-of-year screen shots after the
land phase completes. 
 
Since you asked; the Turks are doing well.  They have occupied Kamenetz, Kiev, Ekaterinaslav, Sevastapol and Stavropol Russian capitols.  Their main army is stacked at Khotin (Khan + 2 Turkish Regular & 1 Ottoman corp ... I suspect they intentionally stood down the fuedals).  The Russians have managed to move the army that was facing France back to Brest-Litovsk (Kutuzov, 6 Russian Regular, 1 Cav & 1 Danish corp). 
At this point - because of economic conditions - I don't expect any significant battles before spring
(moving 6-8 corp at range 3 in winter is EXPENSIVE)
 
PP-wise; the Turks are sitting in the 36 zone; Russia is in the 24 zone (but he should drop 2 due to
losing Hamberg & Straslund - both scheduled for this turn).
 
On the bright side (at least from the FRENCH perspective [8D]); I can now announce that
I FINALLY (since I just managed to replace the Guard factors lost in the Austria war)
have a full 143 factor Nappy army
 

RE: CleverDevils2 AAR

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:17 pm
by NeverMan
Simply put, it really doesn't matter.

France has won this game. Turkey is not going to catch France and I highly doubt that there is going to be another coalition war anytime soon. GB and Sp have no interest in doing war with France and so France will dominate Prussia soon enough, it's not his fault, the Pr army just can't stand alone against the Fr, bottom line.

My feeling is that this game is coming to a close shortly and everyone seems to be all the happier for it. No one is really making a move to contest France or do any diplomacy to stop him. He is riding high on both PP and VP and owns most of, or all, or western-central Europe. He will, undoubtedly, soon own Poland.

Personally, I look forward to starting a game with this group from the beginning so as not to be in this position. It will be fun. CleverDevils3 here we come!

RE: CleverDevils2 AAR

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:54 pm
by Jimmer
ORIGINAL: NeverMan
... GB and Sp have no interest in doing war with France ...
I put a corps into range of your army where it could build a depot and become 28 4.5 morale factors to add to your army, and what happened? You ran away, leaving my corps to fight the the full Grande Armee all by itself. While I understand completely the running away, I think it's wrong to say that GB doesn't have interest in fighting. In fact, if you look where my forces are, you might notice that I'm poised for a winter strike that could fall to any area of France I choose. With you fighting the Turks, though, I'm not sure I'm going to let the hammer fall.

RE: CleverDevils2 AAR

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:05 pm
by Jimmer
ORIGINAL: NeverMan
My feeling is that this game is coming to a close shortly and everyone seems to be all the happier for it. No one is really making a move to contest France or do any diplomacy to stop him. He is riding high on both PP and VP and owns most of, or all, or western-central Europe. He will, undoubtedly, soon own Poland.
I've been OK with this idea since 1.01b. However, I'm glad we didn't. I would currently vote to play on for maybe another six months or so, so as to find remaining bugs with a game nobody cares that much about. I have a feeling there are a few more bugs to shake out, and using an already broken game is a good way to find them.

One thing: We COULD start game 3 while game 2 is still going, with an understanding that we're going to call this game over in the middle of 1807 some time. The risk is that this would slow down both games, possibly to the point of boredom.

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However, I do have to point out that Turkey and Spain are both doing quite well, and by good play. In fact, if the CURRENT pace were kept up, Turkey would be the one who declared the end of the game, not France. However, I don't believe Turkey can keep up the 11 zone long enough.

But, one thing I must say about the Turks: They have done extremely well NOT having taken advantage of any game bugs, save the one where they ended up with an alliance with GB that they otherwise wouldn't have had.

RE: CleverDevils2 AAR

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:26 am
by gwheelock
OK; its now the econ phase of Dec 1806 & here are the political standings

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RE: CleverDevils2 AAR

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:27 am
by gwheelock
and the VP's

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RE: CleverDevils2 AAR

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:30 am
by gwheelock
and here are the end-of-year screenshots ...

Moscow is heavily garrisoned

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RE: CleverDevils2 AAR

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:31 am
by gwheelock
while the Russian army finds winter quarters in Brest-Litovsk

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RE: CleverDevils2 AAR

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:32 am
by gwheelock
And the Turks winter over in Khotin

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RE: CleverDevils2 AAR

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:35 am
by gwheelock
while occupying several of Russia's southern provences

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RE: CleverDevils2 AAR

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:38 am
by gwheelock
meanwhile; Austria has moved the remains of his army to the Turkish boarder.
Could he be planning something??



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RE: CleverDevils2 AAR

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:43 am
by gwheelock
Italy is mostly Spanish. There are a few problems which still need to be adjusted; however.

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RE: CleverDevils2 AAR

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:46 am
by gwheelock
most of France is well garrisoned

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RE: CleverDevils2 AAR

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:48 am
by gwheelock
However; there are a few fleets missing


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RE: CleverDevils2 AAR

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:51 am
by gwheelock
The central minors are all present & accounted for ...


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RE: CleverDevils2 AAR

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:58 am
by gwheelock
While Napoleon & the Grande Armee seems to be eyeing Prussia ...
Could he be planning on the .... 4th COALITION <gasp>

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RE: CleverDevils2 AAR

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:01 am
by gwheelock
Russia meanwhile continues to hold Denmark/Norway

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RE: CleverDevils2 AAR

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:04 am
by gwheelock
While Britain holds Sweden (and seems to have designs on Finland ... could this
be a breach of the evil compact between Britain & Russia )

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