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RE: New capability request
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:54 pm
by Kull
ORIGINAL: n01487477
I think this is what you want Kull ... in the LCU production screen. I want to improve it a little but it does the job ... and I believe the same in the Airgroup area is dealt with (could use a tweak too)
Excellent. In other news, I'm one of those poor souls trying to get Tracker to run with 64-bit Windows (it's running fine on my 32 bit Vista desktop, but I need it on the laptop, too). I've been through the 64-bit thread and tried all the fixes, and things at least have improved to the point where it's now displaying the identical "side-by-side" error message Sulu Sea posted above. I understand that should be fixed by using the vccredist_x64.exe, and in fact I've installed it twice. But still no dice same side-be-side error. Also tried to go with the AI64 version but that won't install ("wrong processor" message)
RE: New capability request
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:06 pm
by n01487477
I've yet to narrow down exactly what works and what doesn't for some 64bit users and not others.
Some have found that uninstalling and reinstalling the microsoft_x64 patch has worked, while others have used the X32 bit patch and that has worked on a 64bit machine. Finally, some have had to go back to the re-distributable pre-patch, then patched and it has worked. If you try each of these un-install each time.
So Kull, I feel for you mate, it is an annoying problem, but with anything Microsoft, perseverance can pay off, not work one time, but work the next. [8|]
RE: New capability request
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:24 pm
by Kull
ORIGINAL: n01487477
I've yet to narrow down exactly what works and what doesn't for some 64bit users and not others.
Some have found that uninstalling and reinstalling the microsoft_x64 patch has worked, while others have used the X32 bit patch and that has worked on a 64bit machine. Finally, some have had to go back to the re-distributable pre-patch, then patched and it has worked. If you try each of these un-install each time.
So Kull, I feel for you mate, it is an annoying problem, but with anything Microsoft, perseverance can pay off, not work one time, but work the next. [8|]
We have BINGO! Uninstalled the 64-bit file and loaded vcredist_x86.exe, and that did the trick. Thanks for the advice. [&o]
RE: New capability request
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:29 pm
by Kull
Back to the program. I've been exporting csv files and noticed that there are eleven options, but quite a few more data sets. Specifically I was hoping to export "Task Forces", but that's not one of the options. Is there some other way to grab that data?
RE: New capability request
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:41 pm
by n01487477
ORIGINAL: Kull
Back to the program. I've been exporting csv files and noticed that there are eleven options, but quite a few more data sets. Specifically I was hoping to export "Task Forces", but that's not one of the options. Is there some other way to grab that data?
Good news about the MS install! ...
Sorry, we haven't got around to including that csv export yet ... you could use an OpenOffice connection and import it, or wait for us to include it when we get time.
Time for [>:]
RE: New capability request
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:14 pm
by Kull
ORIGINAL: n01487477
Sorry, we haven't got around to including that csv export yet ... you could use an OpenOffice connection and import it, or wait for us to include it when we get time.
No sweat - you guys are doing this gratis and what's already been done is outstanding. Here's a quick workaround for those looking to grab data out of tables that aren't supported by the "CSV Export" function:
1) Highlight the top row
2) Hold shift key and highlight the bottom row (highlights all rows in the table)
3) Ctrl+C keys (copy function)
4) Open a spreadsheet program (or even Notepad)
5) Paste
And voila, Data! Only thing missing is the column titles, but those are easy to type in.
RE: New capability request
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:29 pm
by floydg
Well, it was really simple to add (took me less than 5 min), so it'll be in the next release.
RE: New capability request
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:34 am
by Kull
ORIGINAL: floydg
Well, it was really simple to add (took me less than 5 min), so it'll be in the next release.
Thanks man! You guys are awesome.

RE: New capability request
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:44 am
by pmelheck1
Is there any way to multi turn read different save slots say slots 10-17. Not renaming save games to get them to read. I ask as I have a 7 day rolling save. Starts with slot 10 and ending with slot 17. Very nice tool by the way. Any idea when engine damage might be included?
Thanks for the help and for a great program[:)]
RE: New capability request
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:57 am
by n01487477
Is there any way to multi turn read different save slots say slots 10-17. Not renaming save games to get them to read. I ask as I have a 7 day rolling save. Starts with slot 10 and ending with slot 17.
Not at present, and I defer to Floyd ...
Very nice tool by the way. Any idea when engine damage might be included?
Thanks for the help and for a great program
We've found the data points, not sure if it made the cut for the next release, which is coming fairly soon I believe, as there were some biggish bugs we needed to fix. Some cool additions too
Thanks all for the support ... we'll keep cranking, if you keep thanking [;)]
--Damian--
RE: was working not working
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:37 am
by guctony
For reasons unknown to me Wipt Tracker stop working. I tried on a Pbem file with proper settings. And to be sure I used another trial AI file but the following Jpeg is all I get. I have the latest patch.

RE: was working not working
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:59 am
by guctony
I think my problem is one of the earlier save file read.
I created a new folder put Tracker and save file I wanted to read but it opened the old file. Does java store some data of previous save file. If so how can I reset the ol data or delete it.
Regards
RE: was working not working
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:06 am
by floydg
ORIGINAL: guctony
I think my problem is one of the earlier save file read.
I created a new folder put Tracker and save file I wanted to read but it opened the old file. Does java store some data of previous save file. If so how can I reset the ol data or delete it.
Regards
The database keeps track of the old turns loaded. To clear that, delete all of the files that are named trackerdb.
RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.0.1 Available
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:14 am
by Moss Orleni
Hi guys,
First of all, a big thanks to the creators of this great tool; its scope and ease of use are absolutely fantastic! Since it's first version, Witp Tracker has saved me literally hours and hours of spreadsheet calculations...
I have a more technical question:
In order to get information of an ongoing game, I would like to get a raw data dump of the save game data (similar to the csv dumps used with WitPstaff and WitPload). I suppose there is an internal database present in a .pws save file; how can it be accessed and how can you query/export the save game data? Is it possible to do a csv-export similar to the ones for the scenario files?
Thanks in advance for your help,
Moss
P.S. to avoid confusion: I know the Tracker tool can export csv files; I'd like to know if there's an easy way to externally access the .pws file to read data?
RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.0.1 Available
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:21 am
by floydg
ORIGINAL: Moss Orleni
Hi guys,
First of all, a big thanks to the creators of this great tool; its scope and ease of use are absolutely fantastic! Since it's first version, Witp Tracker has saved me literally hours and hours of spreadsheet calculations...
I have a more technical question:
In order to get information of an ongoing game, I would like to get a raw data dump of the save game data (similar to the csv dumps used with WitPstaff and WitPload). I suppose there is an internal database present in a .pws save file; how can it be accessed and how can you query/export the save game data? Is it possible to do a csv-export similar to the ones for the scenario files?
Thanks in advance for your help,
Moss
Some of the data can be exported to CSV using the CSV Export function in the File menu.
Or you can load the database into OpenOffice. Unfortunately, loading the database into OpenOffice is not going to give you the data in a single nice record, since we store the turn-by-turn data in several tables (e.g., LCU's have their data in four different tables).
RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.0.1 Available
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:26 am
by Moss Orleni
Hi floydg,
Man, that was fast! You even beat me to my own edit [:)]
Thanks for the info!
I'm taking a look right now...
Cheers,
Moss
RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.0.1 Available
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:54 am
by Moss Orleni
Hi Floydg,
I see that the tool's current .csv export function already generates very useful data.
But I guess what I'm looking for is to have it generate csv's with the 'original' raw data format (ie the same as used in WitPload and WitPstaff) instead of the 'applied' format generated in the Tracker tool. Do you think this is something that could (easily) be included in WitP Tracker?
Reason I'm asking is that I created a (very modest) Access DB that uses the raw data format described above; it would be extremely useful to have a link to the save game data in the same matter, either via the Tracker tool or via another connection.
Of course, I'm also willing to try it (creating the export format) myself, but I'll need some help to get me started. I have the feeling that the Tracker tool can handle other export data formats without too much difficulty.
Thanks & cheers,
Moss
RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.0.1 Available
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:08 pm
by Tomcat
I just started a new game and decided to compare what AE tells me about pilot losses with what Tracker tells me. After the first turn AE tells me (allies) that I have 15 MIA, 26 WIA, and 34 KIA. However, Tracker tells me I have 1 MIA, 17 WIA, and 2 KIA. I suspect that Tracker is more accurate, but have you noticed this discrepancy? There is a big difference between the two accounts.
RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.0.1 Available
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:22 pm
by floydg
ORIGINAL: Moss Orleni
Hi Floydg,
I see that the tool's current .csv export function already generates very useful data.
But I guess what I'm looking for is to have it generate csv's with the 'original' raw data format (ie the same as used in WitPload and WitPstaff) instead of the 'applied' format generated in the Tracker tool. Do you think this is something that could (easily) be included in WitP Tracker?
Reason I'm asking is that I created a (very modest) Access DB that uses the raw data format described above; it would be extremely useful to have a link to the save game data in the same matter, either via the Tracker tool or via another connection.
Of course, I'm also willing to try it (creating the export format) myself, but I'll need some help to get me started. I have the feeling that the Tracker tool can handle other export data formats without too much difficulty.
Thanks & cheers,
Moss
We can probably do this kind of export, but it would be low on our list, since other tools already do it.
If you need the data, you can use WitPLoadAE.
RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.0.1 Available
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:29 pm
by floydg
ORIGINAL: Tomcat
I just started a new game and decided to compare what AE tells me about pilot losses with what Tracker tells me. After the first turn AE tells me (allies) that I have 15 MIA, 26 WIA, and 34 KIA. However, Tracker tells me I have 1 MIA, 17 WIA, and 2 KIA. I suspect that Tracker is more accurate, but have you noticed this discrepancy? There is a big difference between the two accounts.
Didn't notice it until you mentioned it... [;)]
I don't know how the game computes these numbers, but WitPTracker runs through the pilot pool and checks each pilot. If the pilots are being removed from the pool, we won't count them. We'll need to look deeper into this.
Floyd