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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy




Probably precious few. Which is why foreign voices on the subject are (and have been) meaningless to me. Same with political discussions in general. Europeans assume that they are more knowledgeable about the inner workings of American history and politics than they really are.

warspite1

Some Europeans Mr C - you will notice I have not ventured [light-heartedness aside] into this essentially American discussion.

So, are you considering yourself a European today, herr Warspite1, or merely a foreigner? [;)]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

Well, if I were President, wanna know my executive order number 2? All Wyomingers-with a first name first letter of 'p' last letter 'i' against the wall. Nothing personal.

Geographically we are Europeans - I cannot deny that. Politically we are nothing of the sort, well except those that have no concept of what way is up

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

Well, if I were President, wanna know my executive order number 2? All Wyomingers-with a first name first letter of 'p' last letter 'i' against the wall. Nothing personal.

warspite1

Sensible policies for a happier America - like it Mr C [:)]

ORIGINAL: parusski

Geographically we are Europeans - I cannot deny that. Politically we are nothing of the sort, well except those that have no concept of what way is up

But the problem is, just like in the U.S., there are way too many of those people.

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

Well, if I were President, wanna know my executive order number 2? All Wyomingers-with a first name first letter of 'p' last letter 'i' against the wall. Nothing personal.

warspite1

Sensible policies for a happier America - like it Mr C [:)]

You didn't even ask what my FIRST executive order would be? [;)]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

Well, if I were President, wanna know my executive order number 2? All Wyomingers-with a first name first letter of 'p' last letter 'i' against the wall. Nothing personal.

warspite1

Sensible policies for a happier America - like it Mr C [:)]

You didn't even ask what my FIRST executive order would be? [;)]

ORIGINAL: danlongman

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

I think the second amendment is anathema to many Europeans in particular-of all our Bill of Rights. It's just a foreign concept to many of them that this country can be awash in guns and that's the way we likes it.

If you think about American history (vis a vis the Revolutionary War), the development of the American West and the independence movement in general, it makes perfect sense. But you've got to understand our history, the reasons for the amendment and why it's still very much relevant in today's society. Hard for most outsiders to fathom, I'd venture.

It is the fact that so much of this history of the War Where You Told Britain To Shove Off and the Conquista
of the American West is a manufactured legend that makes it hard to fathom. Rather like the Americans are
a primitive tribe who produce and worship their own legends for their own purposes. Follow the money.

ORIGINAL: chijohnaok

ORIGINAL: danlongman

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

I think the second amendment is anathema to many Europeans in particular-of all our Bill of Rights. It's just a foreign concept to many of them that this country can be awash in guns and that's the way we likes it.

If you think about American history (vis a vis the Revolutionary War), the development of the American West and the independence movement in general, it makes perfect sense. But you've got to understand our history, the reasons for the amendment and why it's still very much relevant in today's society. Hard for most outsiders to fathom, I'd venture.

It is the fact that so much of this history of the War Where You Told Britain To Shove Off and the Conquista
of the American West is a manufactured legend that makes it hard to fathom. Rather like the Americans are
a primitive tribe who produce and worship their own legends for their own purposes. Follow the money.

The American War for Independence was remarkable for a number of reasons:
*** it was the first time that a colony was able to successfully overthrow its colonial master
*** a small non-professional army, and tiny navy was able to outlast the strongest empire in the world, with the largest navy.
*** it then managed to form (with some difficulty) a government that has lasted now for more than 200 years.

ORIGINAL: chijohnaok

ORIGINAL: danlongman

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

I think the second amendment is anathema to many Europeans in particular-of all our Bill of Rights. It's just a foreign concept to many of them that this country can be awash in guns and that's the way we likes it.

If you think about American history (vis a vis the Revolutionary War), the development of the American West and the independence movement in general, it makes perfect sense. But you've got to understand our history, the reasons for the amendment and why it's still very much relevant in today's society. Hard for most outsiders to fathom, I'd venture.

It is the fact that so much of this history of the War Where You Told Britain To Shove Off and the Conquista
of the American West is a manufactured legend that makes it hard to fathom. Rather like the Americans are
a primitive tribe who produce and worship their own legends for their own purposes. Follow the money.

The American War for Independence was remarkable for a number of reasons:
*** it was the first time that a colony was able to successfully overthrow its colonial master
*** a small non-professional army, and tiny navy was able to outlast the strongest empire in the world, with the largest navy.
*** it then managed to form (with some difficulty) a government that has lasted now for more than 200 years.

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: chijohnaok

ORIGINAL: danlongman



It is the fact that so much of this history of the War Where You Told Britain To Shove Off and the Conquista
of the American West is a manufactured legend that makes it hard to fathom. Rather like the Americans are
a primitive tribe who produce and worship their own legends for their own purposes. Follow the money.

The American War for Independence was remarkable for a number of reasons:
*** it was the first time that a colony was able to successfully overthrow its colonial master
*** a small non-professional army, and tiny navy was able to outlast the strongest empire in the world, with the largest navy.
*** it then managed to form (with some difficulty) a government that has lasted now for more than 200 years.

warspite1

I beg to differ. Was it that remarkable? Britain was a billion miles away, with a ridiculously small army at the best of times, the colonists were not alone - the French, Dutch, Spanish.....

Not to denigrate what the US has done since of course, but the actual War of Independence was not that remarkable a victory given the circumstances.

ORIGINAL: parusski

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: chijohnaok




The American War for Independence was remarkable for a number of reasons:
*** it was the first time that a colony was able to successfully overthrow its colonial master
*** a small non-professional army, and tiny navy was able to outlast the strongest empire in the world, with the largest navy.
*** it then managed to form (with some difficulty) a government that has lasted now for more than 200 years.

warspite1

I beg to differ. Was it that remarkable? Britain was a billion miles away, with a ridiculously small army at the best of times, the colonists were not alone - the French, Dutch, Spanish.....

Not to denigrate what the US has done since of course, but the actual War of Independence was not that remarkable a victory given the circumstances.

Weak as water.

warspite1

Eh?

ORIGINAL: parusski

warspite1

Eh?

Huh?

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ORIGINAL: parusski

warspite1

Eh?

Huh?

warspite1

Que?

ORIGINAL: parusski

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: parusski



Huh?

warspite1

Que?

Ya ne ponimayu

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: parusski

ORIGINAL: warspite1


warspite1

Que?

Ya ne ponimayu

warspite1

Whum sploon tribby knockoes (hahahaha [:)])

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: parusski

ORIGINAL: warspite1


warspite1

Que?

Ya ne ponimayu

warspite1

Whum sploon tribby knockoes (hahahaha [:)])