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Here more push .

Mud will hit but we are in variable weather.

I surround fin tank and a inf division.
Finland will fall.

Before mud? I need to reread the surrender rules,

Hi, Helsinki, Or Narva, Pyskov and Vyborg. Helsinki is auto the other depends but I don't think SS Elite are in Finland but it might take a month before they quit. But...Finland surrendered in game where I only had Vyborg but had beat up their army. I was outside Narva and 20 miles from Pyskov

Hi, I wanted to edit my last post but I get a display where only half my post is showing.
I wanted to add that a few posts back you said Pelton does not mind losing the Finns. Where does he think all those unemployed Soviet formations are going to go? The Finns are tying down a large force that you will be free to do with what you want.

I believe he has stated before he will give up the Fins to put all resources in his German fall back lines.

I also read that capture of any Fin town will also cause a finish surrender calculation.

Taking Vyborg does the trick - at least it used to.

Ger kia file

3rd week of march. Will mud hit in April?

We are playing variable weather.

His attacks down here need to be blunted asap as I can not chance losing these troops.

He has 17 panzer/mot units down here counterattacking my breakthrough.

That may be enough to cut me off. My units from the Stalino cannot possible link up before mud sets in.

I have no reserves south of the isthmus.

I think my chance of successfully gaining a hex West of the Deneiper is drying up.

I push his units East and rout 2.

I have a 1% fort line which I fill defensively.

He will have a ruff time figuring out if he can make the cut off.

Tank units surrenders.

I push on to Vyborg, This is not the final view which I did not get picture of.

one more attack West of river

You seem to make a habit of getting caught coming too far out of the Crimea.
(sorry - I could not resist )

before the fall. I eye the town inside the Fin borders 2 hexes NW of Vyborg.

I gain the West side of the River as MUD sets in.

I possess town inside Finnish border.

From reading the rules that should be sufficient to start getting surrender roles.

Or have I read it wrong. Does it have to be a certain mp's to RR? The closet RR repair is near the NE Fin/USSR border.

I will hold this town for 3 turns and no surrender. I am about to open the next.

I am not sure his Capital garrison. It could be SS as we are in mud.

huge!!!!!!!![:)]


My night bombers are pumped up![:'(][:D]

Finland survives again.

Brian,
I think you might need to have also captured the town of Narva & possibly Pskov before you can force a Finnish surrender
Manstein63

Brian, I think you might need to have also captured the town of Narva & possibly Pskov before you can force a Finnish surrender Manstein63

That was one way to get surrender roll.

A second way to get the surrender roll, as I read it, is to control a town in Finland.

Do I read incorrectly?

I think the town needs to be 30 mp from rr.

This is from amended rule which only mentions cities.

The main rule says town/city in Finland should cause surrender roll.

The 30 mp rule came later. 100 mp if capital city.

We are in mud so length will shrink as clear occurs.