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ORIGINAL: Brazenman

T2_2112

Link for new units
https://www.sendspace.com/file/kmh10b

Henschel Hs-129
Macchi MC.205V Veltro

https://www.sendspace.com/file/9jlsf4

ORIGINAL: Kompolka

Great job guys!
But I found a few bugs
The following units do not have a big picture:T-34-43, T-34-85, KV-5, Soviet_M4_Sherman, 57mm_Model_1943, 100mm_M1944, SU-76, SU-85, SU-152, ISU-152, T-90 SPAAG, M16 MGMC, BM-31 Katyusha

Considering that H.Balck never released those you can consider it a feature, not a bug. It`s mentioned in the readme that comes with the mod and also a few times in these threads:
fb.asp?m=3993230
The full list is here:
fb.asp?m=3801287
(minus the Cossack Cavalry which was completed in the meantime)
Despite all this I have no doubt people will continue to keep on "discovering" this "bug" which is why it was worth adressing.

ORIGINAL: T2_2112

@H.Balck

I think ur Blenheim model is Blenheim Mk IV not Mk I

Indeed, it`s an Mk.IV. Romania only used the Mk.I. But it`s not the only issue with those planes. That trimotor from above is not a IAR-79. Romania never used the three-engined Savoia Marchetti SM.79. It ordered a customized version with only two engines(the S.79B) and then ordered more with Jumo engines (JIS-79B) and license produced the rest (JRS-79B). There are differences between them but in game one could only use one graphic I guess. It should look something like this:
http://www.cartula.ro/forum/topic/12398 ... ntry185179
http://www.worldwar2.ro/arr/?language=en&article=757
As you can see in those pictures, the camo for the Romanian produced aircraft of those years was made in the shape of wide irregular stripes.

Romania also did not use the B version of the He-111. It had the H (H3 initially):
http://www.worldwar2.ro/arr/?article=755
and the camo actually looked like this:
http://www.cartula.ro/forum/topic/1223- ... hl__he-111

The Romanian Bf-109E were never painted in that camouflage pattern. They were RLM 71 on the upper side and RLM 65 on the underside:
http://smnzone.scalemodellingno.netdna- ... -scale.jpg
http://www.largescaleplanes.com/article ... hp?aid=928

The Romanian Hs-129 were B2, not the version with the 75mm gun:
http://www.worldwar2.ro/arr/?article=761
https://sites.google.com/site/mgc151184/hs-129bnr.132
http://www.cartula.ro/forum/topic/1592- ... hl__hs-129
and likewise, they kept the German style camo, but with Romanian markings.

In fact, many of the Romanian aircraft inherited the original German factory paintjob, especially in the later years and it`s something one finds for other Axis nations too.

No version of the IAR-80 had guns on the extremity of the wings. Basically the graphics above depict the pitot tube on the left wing and duplicate it on the right wing (obviously, the pitot tube would only be on one wing):
http://s223.photobucket.com/user/stosse ... 0.jpg.html


This article shows a list of all the aircraft in Romanian service (including those that were captured and never used operationally):
http://www.worldwar2.ro/arr/?language=en&article=766

T2_2112
Thank you!


all ready planes
link
https://www.sendspace.com/file/u58w46

ORIGINAL: R35
Indeed, it`s an Mk.IV. Romania only used the Mk.I. But it`s not the only issue with those planes. That trimotor from above is not a IAR-79. Romania never used the three-engined Savoia Marchetti SM.79. It ordered a customized version with only two engines(the S.79B) and then ordered more with Jumo engines (JIS-79B) and license produced the rest (JRS-79B). There are differences between them but in game one could only use one graphic I guess. It should look something like this:
http://www.cartula.ro/forum/topic/12398 ... ntry185179
http://www.worldwar2.ro/arr/?language=en&article=757
As you can see in those pictures, the camo for the Romanian produced aircraft of those years was made in the shape of wide irregular stripes.

Romania also did not use the B version of the He-111. It had the H (H3 initially):
http://www.worldwar2.ro/arr/?article=755
and the camo actually looked like this:
http://www.cartula.ro/forum/topic/1223- ... hl__he-111

The Romanian Bf-109E were never painted in that camouflage pattern. They were RLM 71 on the upper side and RLM 65 on the underside:
http://smnzone.scalemodellingno.netdna- ... -scale.jpg
http://www.largescaleplanes.com/article ... hp?aid=928

This article shows a list of all the aircraft in Romanian service (including those that were captured and never used operationally):
http://www.worldwar2.ro/arr/?language=en&article=766

I think the camo can leave it right now, one kind of camo for all kind of aircraft (one country).

I hope i can see He-112B, He-100 [:)]

ORIGINAL: T2_2112
I think the camo can leave it right now, one kind of camo for all kind of aircraft (one country).

Isn`t that what vanilla PzC has done? All French aircraft brown and all Italian planes beige? You looked at it and you sorta knew it`s a D.520... just that it looked unpainted. The aircraft are those units that really put the colour into the game and it`s a pity to make entire rosters in one single style.
I have no problem with choosing only one of several camouflage styles that a certain aircraft type had during the war for a certain faction, but I think it should still be one of the actually used camo styles for that particular aircraft. Otherwise, why bother... Unlike artillery and AFVs, aircraft colours are pretty well documented and someone familiar with them would expect a He-112 to be RLM 02 and not a combination of dark earth and dark green. Should an American Mustang be painted brown and green to match the new C-47 and the faction color instead of its iconic natural metal look?
Anyway, it`s up to you guys.

ORIGINAL: R35

ORIGINAL: T2_2112
I think the camo can leave it right now, one kind of camo for all kind of aircraft (one country).

Isn`t that what vanilla PzC has done? All French aircraft brown and all Italian planes beige? You looked at it and you sorta knew it`s a D.520... just that it looked unpainted. The aircraft are those units that really put the colour into the game and it`s a pity to make entire rosters in one single style.
I have no problem with choosing only one of several camouflage styles that a certain aircraft type had during the war for a certain faction, but I think it should still be one of the actually used camo styles for that particular aircraft. Otherwise, why bother... Unlike artillery and AFVs, aircraft colours are pretty well documented and someone familiar with them would expect a He-112 to be RLM 02 and not a combination of dark earth and dark green. Should an American Mustang be painted brown and green to match the new C-47 and the faction color instead of its iconic natural metal look?
Anyway, it`s up to you guys.

Yes it can be, like some photo

Could and should... always a slight difference in between. You would rather have a P-51D in that camouflage? Sure, go ahead.

ORIGINAL: R35

Could and should... always a slight difference in between. You would rather have a P-51D in that camouflage? Sure, go ahead.

Or may be this like P-51D-10-NA 44-14798 of the famous 'Yoxford Boxs' 357th FG 362nd FS from the 8th USAAF



Anyway depend on H.Balck, not me. I only care about German planes

76.2-mm Regimental Gun Model 1927 "Bobik"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/76_mm_reg ... _gun_M1927


Link for new units
https://www.sendspace.com/file/nj8mig

76.2-mm Mountain Gun Model 1909


Link for new units
https://www.sendspace.com/file/n414y2

T-27
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-27
http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/s ... et_T27.php

Link for new unit
https://www.sendspace.com/file/2mwn66

Oh!
I see the famous "Bobik"!
Thank you! This is a great unit! It's very lacked the in the game!

Guys
need transport for mountain guns also
please

H.Balck wrote:
Polish Infantry 1939 big render for my 3d fans.

V-CL Mk. VI(b)
http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/g ... d_MkVI.php

Link for new unit:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/5r9nt9

122 mm howitzer M1910
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/122_mm_howitzer_M1910

Link for new unit
https://www.sendspace.com/file/0yt7sc






122 mm howitzer M1910/30
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/122_mm_howitzer_M1910/30

Link for new unit
https://www.sendspace.com/file/etaekv

152 mm howitzer M1909
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/152_mm_howitzer_M1909

Link for new unit
https://www.sendspace.com/file/pzuim0




152 mm howitzer M1909/30
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/152_mm_howitzer_M1909/30

Link for new unit
https://www.sendspace.com/file/vyif6d

Is there a pack version of all these files?

Great work!
The guns look really great!
Thank you, H.Balck!

This is all semi-finished units that are ready at the moment

New Units
https://www.sendspace.com/file/ddqxa1
Reworked British Units
https://www.sendspace.com/file/sz08g0
New Modern Units
https://www.sendspace.com/file/0o708e

I understand that R-35 will not work anymore
In this case, it would be nice if someone can help us gather these units