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RE: TOP SECRET ORM + WARSPITE ONLY (Reverse AAR)
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:36 pm
by warspite1
German end of turn:
2 x offensive
Preliminary planning
2 x saved oil in Warsaw from USSR
No units stay at sea - all warships return to Kiel.
Oil Reorganisation
At a cost of 4 oil
Everything reorganised except:
Deutschland, Hipper, AMPH, TRS, Schlesien, Schleswig Holstein 3 x convoy each costing .1 and one costing 0.5
Breakdown
5-3 West of Frankfurt into a 2-3 and a 1-5 MOT
Production
3 x Pilot
2 x LND
1 x FTR
Reinforcement
Me-110 - Cologne
Scheer - Kiel
4-3 PARA - Munich or Frankfurt depending on Italian requirements
7-4 INF - Frankfurt
RE: TOP SECRET ORM + WARSPITE ONLY (Reverse AAR)
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:52 pm
by Courtenay
ORIGINAL: warspite1
Wow - that was disappointing. When I sailed from port to port no disorganised dot came up. Turns out they are all disorganised anyway [&:]
This is a disconcerting feature of naval moves. When you move from port to port, the units are not disorganized until after you end the naval movement phase. For a while I thought there was a bug, until I realized this.
Why it done this way I have no idea.
RE: TOP SECRET ORM + WARSPITE ONLY (Reverse AAR)
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:26 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Courtenay
ORIGINAL: warspite1
Wow - that was disappointing. When I sailed from port to port no disorganised dot came up. Turns out they are all disorganised anyway [&:]
This is a disconcerting feature of naval moves. When you move from port to port, the units are not disorganized until after you end the naval movement phase. For a while I thought there was a bug, until I realized this.
Why it done this way I have no idea.
warspite1
Well its a painful lesson - but could have been more painful if I hadn't attacked Denmark.....
RE: TOP SECRET ORM + WARSPITE ONLY (Reverse AAR)
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:35 pm
by Orm
We need to remember to order the transfer the Ju 88A1 to Italy.
RE: TOP SECRET ORM + WARSPITE ONLY (Reverse AAR)
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:03 pm
by warspite1
Is that wise given the situation on the Dyle?
RE: TOP SECRET ORM + WARSPITE ONLY (Reverse AAR)
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:07 pm
by Orm
ORIGINAL: warspite1
Is that wise given the situation on the Dyle?
Indeed. A German three strength bomber becomes a Italian five strength bomber.
RE: TOP SECRET ORM + WARSPITE ONLY (Reverse AAR)
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:08 pm
by Orm
Preliminary planning
2 x saved oil in Warsaw from USSR
This is bad considering rounding.
Edit: Saving three oil should give the same amount of build points.
Edit2: If my math is correct. [:D]
RE: TOP SECRET ORM + WARSPITE ONLY (Reverse AAR)
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:11 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm
ORIGINAL: warspite1
Is that wise given the situation on the Dyle?
Indeed. A German three strength bomber becomes a Italian five strength bomber.
warspite1
You lost me?
RE: TOP SECRET ORM + WARSPITE ONLY (Reverse AAR)
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:12 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm
Preliminary planning
2 x saved oil in Warsaw from USSR
This is bad considering rounding.
Edit: Saving three oil should give the same amount of build points.
Edit2: If my math is correct. [:D]
warspite1
Okay I'll post my orders now with this change.
RE: TOP SECRET ORM + WARSPITE ONLY (Reverse AAR)
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:12 pm
by Orm
I also recommend that Germany destroy the two blue factories in Poland and the blue factory in Liege.
RE: TOP SECRET ORM + WARSPITE ONLY (Reverse AAR)
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:16 pm
by Orm
ORIGINAL: warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm
ORIGINAL: warspite1
Is that wise given the situation on the Dyle?
Indeed. A German three strength bomber becomes a Italian five strength bomber.
warspite1
You lost me?
The bomber gets better when transferred to Italy. See picture.

RE: TOP SECRET ORM + WARSPITE ONLY (Reverse AAR)
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:21 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm
ORIGINAL: warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm
Indeed. A German three strength bomber becomes a Italian five strength bomber.
warspite1
You lost me?
The bomber gets better when transferred to Italy. See picture.
warspite1
Sorry I forgot we discussed that - I thought you'd lost your mind then [X(][;)]
RE: TOP SECRET ORM + WARSPITE ONLY (Reverse AAR)
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:25 pm
by Orm
ORIGINAL: warspite1
Sorry I forgot we discussed that - I thought you'd lost your mind then [X(][;)]
Ah. [:D]
I am sorry about that misunderstanding. I should have expressed myself more clearly. [:)]
RE: TOP SECRET ORM + WARSPITE ONLY (Reverse AAR)
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:22 am
by Orm
So have we reached that stage in the war when the need to discuss things is over? [;)]
RE: TOP SECRET ORM + WARSPITE ONLY (Reverse AAR)
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:58 pm
by Orm
There is now a opportunity to make Rumania a Full Ally. This, however, cause Hungary to stop giving their resource and they will only join as a 'minor' ally.
Since Bulgaria is out of the equation it is now more tempting to go for the full ally option for Rumania.
Is it worth the cost to get Rumania as a full Ally?
RE: TOP SECRET ORM + WARSPITE ONLY (Reverse AAR)
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:12 pm
by warspite1
It might be useful to have Romania as a full ally and thus we can place German units within ahead of time.
So I read it that the alignment takes place next turn - not this one.
I bet all this breaks the game [:D]
RE: TOP SECRET ORM + WARSPITE ONLY (Reverse AAR)
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:18 pm
by Orm
So I read it that the alignment takes place next turn - not this one.
I think the rule says that the claim take place next impulse.
RE: TOP SECRET ORM + WARSPITE ONLY (Reverse AAR)
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:20 pm
by Orm
It might be useful to have Romania as a full ally and thus we can place German units within ahead of time.
Germany can do that either way. If the claim is allowed you can align Romania by declaring war on Yugoslavia, or controlling Belgrade.
RE: TOP SECRET ORM + WARSPITE ONLY (Reverse AAR)
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:20 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm
So I read it that the alignment takes place next turn - not this one.
I think the rule says that the claim take place next impulse.
warspite1
Its not particularly clear, but yes, that was my interpretation. South Dobruja is too close to Ploesti too.
It means only one Hungarian can ever leave the country but that is no loss - and Romania is unlimited so swings and roundabouts.
I think we go for it.
RE: TOP SECRET ORM + WARSPITE ONLY (Reverse AAR)
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:21 pm
by Orm
It might be useful to have Romania as a full ally
Indeed. What annoys me is the lost Hungarian resource. The lost resources from Turkey and Bulgaria already hurts.