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Coronavirus and cruises: Roughly 10 ships are stuck at sea amid pandemic
Published 2 days ago
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/coronavi ... a-pandemic

Oh boy... I just thought about this: what about military ships?

We have the Theodore Roosevelt case, but seas and oceans are crossed by warships of any nation (all with cramped quarters and commodities sharing). What about them? Is someone testing the crews?

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

What is the date after which anyone getting on a cruise deserves not to be rescued? After the publicity about the Princess Cruise ship berthed off Japan, how could ANYONE be so stupid? Any cruise line which boarded a ship after that date is going to have major liabilities to both governments that paid for the care and to passengers, who will claim they were unaware of the danger.

How much you want to bet Miami will be sued for not closing the beach during Spring Break and New Orleans for holding Mardi Gras. The plaintiffs will go for class action status, perhaps including patients who had only secondary exposure to travelers. Even insurance companies might bring claims because they will suffer massive losses. Reinsurance funds will get badly hammered.

It may take an act of Congress like after the 9-11 attack.

The main doctor and his family in town took a flight/cruise etc to Galapagos Isl, S America, Hawaii, and western Mexico coast. Posted the entire thing on Facebook - they were there three weeks ago because it was "cheap" the majority of the town is ready to burn their house down.

The only reasons I note he is a doctor, is because of how many people he comes in contact with daily..

Well I haven't been buying the comments re Germany. And suddenly their critical cases seem to have exploded from a consistently tiny figure (I don't believe the UK critical figure either - or the recovered number come to that).

If the reasons given for such a low German death rate were to be believed, surely there is no reason - following even tighter lock down measures - that their deaths and criticals should suddenly start rising? Even for a country as efficient as Germany, those numbers (compared to all those around them) just didn't stack up. Or maybe this is just a blip. I watch this with interest. For the avoidance of doubt I don't think there is anything sinister here - I just think there may have been a difference in procedure (how deaths are checked for Corona) and reporting.

As I said to my daughter during a conversation last night, just imagine what is going to happen in this country when a law enforcement has to shoot a looter, carrying a gun, for breaking into a store and disobeying an order to stop.

The rioting will begin.

How long does it last in normal times? Long time.

The rioting has started in this thread. How long will it last? Long time.

Get your sh*t together, find your brain.

Too many dumbsh*ts in the world want to keep this crap ongoing.

Who wants to step up and say "I am the top dumbsh*t".

Too many, it seems.

Maybe the end is near if there is enough of this drug:

Infectious Disease Expert Says Anti-Malaria Drug Marks ‘Beginning Of The End’ Of Pandemic
April 02, 2020 11:48 AM ET

Infectious disease expert Stephen Smith predicted Wednesday night that an anti-malaria drug is ushering in the “beginning of the end” of the coronavirus pandemic.

Researchers have found that hydroxychloroquine (HCQ), a drug normally used to treat malaria, is also effective in treating the virus. A recent trial conducted at Renmin Hospital at Wuhan University from Feb. 4 until Feb. 28. treated 31 patients with a five-day regimen of 400 milligrams of HCQ.
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Smith told Fox News’ Laura Ingraham that none of the people who have been treated with the drug have had to be intubated, or put on a ventilator.

“The chance of that occurring by chance according to my sons who did some stats for me are .000 something,” Smith said. “We worry about selection bias in the situation, but I cannot think of a reason why, if all else is equal, why people that have received five days or more — even four days or more of this hydroxychloroquine regimen wouldn’t get intubated.”

Smith called the drug a “game-changer,” and said it could put an end to this current crisis.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/02/infe ... loroquine/

ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

Coronavirus and cruises: Roughly 10 ships are stuck at sea amid pandemic
Published 2 days ago
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/coronavi ... a-pandemic

Oh boy... I just thought about this: what about military ships?

We have the Theodore Roosevelt case, but seas and oceans are crossed by warships of any nation (all with cramped quarters and commodities sharing). What about them? Is someone testing the crews?

If done correctly that info will not be available.

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Maybe the end is near if there is enough of this drug:

Infectious Disease Expert Says Anti-Malaria Drug Marks ‘Beginning Of The End’ Of Pandemic
April 02, 2020 11:48 AM ET

Infectious disease expert Stephen Smith predicted Wednesday night that an anti-malaria drug is ushering in the “beginning of the end” of the coronavirus pandemic.

Researchers have found that hydroxychloroquine (HCQ), a drug normally used to treat malaria, is also effective in treating the virus. A recent trial conducted at Renmin Hospital at Wuhan University from Feb. 4 until Feb. 28. treated 31 patients with a five-day regimen of 400 milligrams of HCQ.
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Smith told Fox News’ Laura Ingraham that none of the people who have been treated with the drug have had to be intubated, or put on a ventilator.

“The chance of that occurring by chance according to my sons who did some stats for me are .000 something,” Smith said. “We worry about selection bias in the situation, but I cannot think of a reason why, if all else is equal, why people that have received five days or more — even four days or more of this hydroxychloroquine regimen wouldn’t get intubated.”

Smith called the drug a “game-changer,” and said it could put an end to this current crisis.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/02/infe ... loroquine/

Good find, I found it YouTube and was looking for a print version.

(About someone recovering, his story - Joe)
She wants to keep supplies of the drug for people who need it for other conditions:

MI Gov. Bans Hydroxychloroquine; Constituent Who Credits the Drug for Saving His Life Wants to Talk
Posted at 7:00 pm on March 27, 2020 by Elizabeth Vaughn

As a COVID-19 survivor who is currently recovering, I believe it is important to share my story publicly so others have hope.
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On March 18th, I had a sudden onset of severe respiratory and cardiac issues. I immediately went to the hospital and they did a COVID-19 test. Despite my test being marked as a priority, I did not receive the test results until the evening of March 22nd. While waiting for the test results in the hospital, my breathing continued to worsen as treatment was received. Without having the COVID-19 test results, the wonderful and hard-working doctors basically have their hands tied as certain medications (i.e. steroids, etc.) can potentially make COVID-19 worse. On the morning of March 21st, I was not doing well and it was a major struggle to breathe. Feeling like I was slowly drowning, I honestly believed I would not live to see midnight. The x-ray that morning also showed my condition was worsening, including some collapsing in the lungs. Luckily, the infectious disease physicians decided to try a non-approved, experimental combination (Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin). This is the same treatment President Donald Trump recently mentioned at a press conference and continues to be attacked for. After my first dose, I had a major improvement. My gasping for air stopped, and I was in tears of happiness due to having hope restored. I finally felt I would beat COVID-19 and it was no longer beating me. On March 22nd, I remained about the same. However, March 23rd brought a significant improvement. I continued to recover and was miraculously able to go home on March 24th to continue the treatment.

Edit: I forgot the link!

https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaug ... nsequences

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Maybe the end is near if there is enough of this drug:

Infectious Disease Expert Says Anti-Malaria Drug Marks ‘Beginning Of The End’ Of Pandemic
April 02, 2020 11:48 AM ET

Infectious disease expert Stephen Smith predicted Wednesday night that an anti-malaria drug is ushering in the “beginning of the end” of the coronavirus pandemic.

Researchers have found that hydroxychloroquine (HCQ), a drug normally used to treat malaria, is also effective in treating the virus. A recent trial conducted at Renmin Hospital at Wuhan University from Feb. 4 until Feb. 28. treated 31 patients with a five-day regimen of 400 milligrams of HCQ.
.
.
.
Smith told Fox News’ Laura Ingraham that none of the people who have been treated with the drug have had to be intubated, or put on a ventilator.

“The chance of that occurring by chance according to my sons who did some stats for me are .000 something,” Smith said. “We worry about selection bias in the situation, but I cannot think of a reason why, if all else is equal, why people that have received five days or more — even four days or more of this hydroxychloroquine regimen wouldn’t get intubated.”

Smith called the drug a “game-changer,” and said it could put an end to this current crisis.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/02/infe ... loroquine/

Good find, I found it YouTube and was looking for a print version.

Actually, I came upon it by chance!

COVID-19: Could Hydroxychloroquine Really Be the Answer?
MARCH 18, 2020

The Marseille Study

The European Union Clinical Trials Register shows that the Marseille study was accepted on 5th March by the National Medicines Safety Agency (ANSM). It could include up to 25 COVID-19 positive patients, comprising five aged 12–17 years, 10 aged 18–64 years, and 10 more aged 65 years or over.

While the data have not yet been published, and should therefore be interpreted with caution, this non-randomised, unblinded study showed a strong reduction in viral load with hydroxychloroquine.

After 6 days, the percentage of patients testing positive for COVID-19 who received hydroxychloroquine fell to 25% versus 90% for those who did not receive the treatment (a group of untreated COVID-19 patients from Nice and Avignon).

In addition, comparing untreated patients, those receiving hydroxychloroquine and those given hydroxychloroquine plus the antibiotic azithromycin, the results showed there was "a spectacular reduction in the number of positive cases" with the combination therapy, said Prof Raoult.

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020031 ... e-answer#1

Found this stuff down in my shop, I'd forgotten I had them. I'm going to give them to one of the hospitals here. I also found a whole bunch of those long handled stick-up-your-nose swabs they use for testing. I saw on the news a little while ago that there's a shortage of those too. I have no idea how I ended up with those. Had some procedural gloves too.

For those in the front lines, just remember something:

Some data that may not be in the general public yet:

FYI

Peak demand for hospital resources due to COVID-19 is expected by mid-April in the U.S., according to an analysis from the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation in Seattle.
The study presents estimates of predicted health service utilization and deaths due to COVID-19 for each state in the U.S. if social distancing measures are maintained. Researchers used state-level hospital capacity data, data on confirmed COVID-19 deaths from the World Health Organization, and observed COVID-19 utilization from select locations.
While peak demand for resources, namely hospital beds and ventilators, will occur at the national level in two weeks, this varies by state. About a third of states, including New York, are projected to hit peak capacity in the first half of April, but some states will see the most demand for hospital resources in May.
Below is the projected date of peak hospital resource demand in each state according to the model, which uses data last updated April 1.
April 8
New Jersey
April 9
Louisiana
Michigan
New York
Vermont
April 11
Delaware
Washington
April 15
Alaska
Connecticut
District of Columbia
April 16
Massachusetts
April 17
Alabama
Colorado
Maine
New Hampshire
April 18
Pennsylvania
April 19
Indiana
Ohio
Tennessee
April 20
Illinois
Nevada
Rhode Island
April 21
Mississippi
North Dakota
April 22
Minnesota
April 23
Nebraska
Oklahoma
Utah
April 24
Georgia
New Mexico
April 26
Arkansas
California
Idaho
Montana
North Carolina
April 27
Arizona
Wisconsin
April 28
Kansas
South Carolina
April 29
Maryland
May 1
Iowa
May 3
Florida
Hawaii
May 4
South Dakota
West Virginia
Wyoming
May 5
Oregon
May 6
Texas
May 16
Kentucky
May 20
Virginia
May 21
Missouri

Closer look....

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

Coronavirus and cruises: Roughly 10 ships are stuck at sea amid pandemic
Published 2 days ago
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/coronavi ... a-pandemic

Oh boy... I just thought about this: what about military ships?

We have the Theodore Roosevelt case, but seas and oceans are crossed by warships of any nation (all with cramped quarters and commodities sharing). What about them? Is someone testing the crews?

If done correctly that info will not be available.

Until an unusually long visit to a port, paired with the ship in self-quarantine ("Yo, dudes, why nobody is disembarking from that shi... Oh shit!!) gives the game away.

ORIGINAL: DD696

As I said to my daughter during a conversation last night, just imagine what is going to happen in this country when a law enforcement has to shoot a looter, carrying a gun, for breaking into a store and disobeying an order to stop.

The rioting will begin.

How long does it last in normal times? Long time.

The rioting has started in this thread. How long will it last? Long time.

Get your sh*t together, find your brain.

Too many dumbsh*ts in the world want to keep this crap ongoing.

Who wants to step up and say "I am the top dumbsh*t".

Too many, it seems.

Actually, the CAPTAIN leaked a letter from Acting Sec of the Navy to the media. [X(]

And he just ended his career by being sacked.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/uss-theodore ... r-relieved

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Actually, the CAPTAIN leaked a letter from Acting Sec of the Navy to the media. [X(]

And he just ended his career by being sacked.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/uss-theodore ... r-relieved

He should kiss the gunner's daughter.

Oooof France exploded. 1355 deaths.

I know US numbers are updated more periodically but that was almost a 100% increase over yesterday's deaths.

Are you angry at the Chicoms yet?

How about this? 760,000 people flooded into the US from China AFTER the CCP knew about the deadliness and alarming infectiousness of the virus.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/disaste ... d=69933625

If you ask me, the f****** did that on purpose and if someone bothers to look it up I suspect they did the same thing to Europe. It is either epic bureaucratic incompetence or it is an act of evil the world has not seen for 50 years (since Mao)