RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_SqzMyLemon_Canoerebel (A)
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:06 am
[font="Times New Roman"]June 6-7, 1945[/font]
As the Allies move down Malaya they're starting to make these bases viable. I noticed 80+ fighters at Malacca a few days after it changed to Allied hands. On the 6th I swept and found a nice haul of P-40N5 there. No match for the sweeping Franks. On the day about 50 are shot down for 9 Franks lost.
The most interesting thing about this event ifs the Allied altitude settings. He is trying out the low CAP. [:D]
It won't work with P-40N5 as I think he's just found out, but it may work with a different combo of better airframes. I'm sure I'll encounter more soon. Luckily I've done some thinking on this and have some things I'd like to try in return.
In the North I para-dropped on Soochow next to Shanghai, but will move out now. It's not worth losing troops to hold it with a garrison, and there were no supplies to steal. I'll try a few more though. [;)]
Not much else going on these turns. It makes me think this landing in China is prep for something else? Not necessarily a campaign to move deep, but a staging for a move to Korea, or Formosa, or the Home Islands? If that is true though the Allies have quite a few troops pushed forward now. Very interesting.
[font="Trebuchet MS"]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 6, 1945
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Afternoon Air attack on Malacca , at 49,81
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 46 NM, estimated altitude 39,270 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 33
Allied aircraft
P-40N5 Warhawk x 75
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 5 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40N5 Warhawk: 17 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 38270 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Afternoon Air attack on Malacca , at 49,81
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 46 NM, estimated altitude 42,270 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 36
Allied aircraft
P-40N5 Warhawk x 31
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40N5 Warhawk: 13 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
28 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 38270 feet
CAP engaged:
51st FG/16th FS with P-40N5 Warhawk (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 20 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
80th FG/89th FS with P-40N5 Warhawk (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 20 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
51st FG/449th FS with P-40N5 Warhawk (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 15 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
[font="Trebuchet MS"]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 7, 1945
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Morning Air attack on 7th RGC Temp. Division, at 86,50 , near Hankow
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 10
Liberator B.VI x 26
A-26B Invader x 16
B-24J Liberator x 14
P-38L Lightning x 17
P-51D Mustang x 57
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 12
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 29
Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 3 damaged
A-26B Invader: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 5 damaged
PBJ-1D Mitchell: 5 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
432 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 32 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Aircraft Attacking:
15 x PBJ-1D Mitchell bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Soochow (92,54)
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 68 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0
Japanese adjusted assault: 5
Allied adjusted defense: 1
Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Soochow !!!
Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)
Assaulting units:
1st Glider Inf. Rgt /3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------[/color][/font]
The points from Saigon are now showing in the Allies VP totals. It's neck and neck! They'll move ahead within a day or two.

As the Allies move down Malaya they're starting to make these bases viable. I noticed 80+ fighters at Malacca a few days after it changed to Allied hands. On the 6th I swept and found a nice haul of P-40N5 there. No match for the sweeping Franks. On the day about 50 are shot down for 9 Franks lost.
The most interesting thing about this event ifs the Allied altitude settings. He is trying out the low CAP. [:D]
It won't work with P-40N5 as I think he's just found out, but it may work with a different combo of better airframes. I'm sure I'll encounter more soon. Luckily I've done some thinking on this and have some things I'd like to try in return.
In the North I para-dropped on Soochow next to Shanghai, but will move out now. It's not worth losing troops to hold it with a garrison, and there were no supplies to steal. I'll try a few more though. [;)]
Not much else going on these turns. It makes me think this landing in China is prep for something else? Not necessarily a campaign to move deep, but a staging for a move to Korea, or Formosa, or the Home Islands? If that is true though the Allies have quite a few troops pushed forward now. Very interesting.
[font="Trebuchet MS"]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 6, 1945
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Afternoon Air attack on Malacca , at 49,81
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 46 NM, estimated altitude 39,270 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 33
Allied aircraft
P-40N5 Warhawk x 75
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 5 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40N5 Warhawk: 17 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 38270 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Afternoon Air attack on Malacca , at 49,81
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 46 NM, estimated altitude 42,270 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 36
Allied aircraft
P-40N5 Warhawk x 31
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40N5 Warhawk: 13 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
28 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 38270 feet
CAP engaged:
51st FG/16th FS with P-40N5 Warhawk (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 20 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
80th FG/89th FS with P-40N5 Warhawk (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 20 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
51st FG/449th FS with P-40N5 Warhawk (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 15 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
[font="Trebuchet MS"]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 7, 1945
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Morning Air attack on 7th RGC Temp. Division, at 86,50 , near Hankow
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 10
Liberator B.VI x 26
A-26B Invader x 16
B-24J Liberator x 14
P-38L Lightning x 17
P-51D Mustang x 57
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 12
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 29
Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 3 damaged
A-26B Invader: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 5 damaged
PBJ-1D Mitchell: 5 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
432 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 32 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Aircraft Attacking:
15 x PBJ-1D Mitchell bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Soochow (92,54)
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 68 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0
Japanese adjusted assault: 5
Allied adjusted defense: 1
Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Soochow !!!
Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)
Assaulting units:
1st Glider Inf. Rgt /3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------[/color][/font]
The points from Saigon are now showing in the Allies VP totals. It's neck and neck! They'll move ahead within a day or two.
