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ORIGINAL: Orm

First time I ever make attack with lower than 1:2 odds, looks like there is no fractional odds.

Well. Then we, or you, have to simulate a fractional odds roll. Because the final odds matters. Each odds lower than 1:2 gives a die roll modifier of -1.

When odds are 17:44, should I have fractional odds roll for 1:2 with out -1? If I do, then I would say it is 0,588 (44-17-17=10, 10/17=0,588). Fractional odds roll was 278.

ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer

ORIGINAL: Orm

First time I ever make attack with lower than 1:2 odds, looks like there is no fractional odds.

Well. Then we, or you, have to simulate a fractional odds roll. Because the final odds matters. Each odds lower than 1:2 gives a die roll modifier of -1.

When odds are 17:44, should I have fractional odds roll for 1:2 with out -1? If I do, then I would say it is 0,588 (44-17-17=10, 10/17=0,588). Fractional odds roll was 278.

I am not sure this is correct.

Should there be fractional odds?

I think the calculation would be something along the following lines.

1:2 would be 22:44. You have 17:44. That rounds down to 1:3. Since 1:3 is actually 14.667, you have 2.33 towards 1:2 (17-14.667). The gap between 1:3 and 1:2 is 22-14.6667 = 7.333. The fractional odds would be 2.333/5.333 = 0.318.

ORIGINAL: AllenK

I think the calculation would be something along the following lines.

1:2 would be 22:44. You have 17:44. That rounds down to 1:3. Since 1:3 is actually 14.667, you have 2.33 towards 1:2 (17-14.667). The gap between 1:3 and 1:2 is 22-14.6667 = 7.333. The fractional odds would be 2.333/5.333 = 0.318.

That's good enough for me. [:)] Thank you. [&o]

Although you accidently wrote 5.333 instead of 7.333 but for the answer you used the correct answer 0.318.

And, yes, there should be fractional odds.

ORIGINAL: AllenK

I think the calculation would be something along the following lines.

1:2 would be 22:44. You have 17:44. That rounds down to 1:3. Since 1:3 is actually 14.667, you have 2.33 towards 1:2 (17-14.667). The gap between 1:3 and 1:2 is 22-14.6667 = 7.333. The fractional odds would be 2.333/5.333 = 0.318.

warspite1

Pure. Frontier. Gibberish

So fractional odds was a success so no negative modifier on the 1:2 table.

So Axis lost only 2 units?

Can you AllenK continue if you want to rebase or reorganize something? If not, I will play impulse to end very fast and get to bed.

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: AllenK

I think the calculation would be something along the following lines.

1:2 would be 22:44. You have 17:44. That rounds down to 1:3. Since 1:3 is actually 14.667, you have 2.33 towards 1:2 (17-14.667). The gap between 1:3 and 1:2 is 22-14.6667 = 7.333. The fractional odds would be 2.333/5.333 = 0.318.

warspite1

Pure. Frontier. Gibberish

I don't follow you. I was simply trying to determine the odds based upon how the fractional odds rules are written.

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: AllenK

I think the calculation would be something along the following lines.

1:2 would be 22:44. You have 17:44. That rounds down to 1:3. Since 1:3 is actually 14.667, you have 2.33 towards 1:2 (17-14.667). The gap between 1:3 and 1:2 is 22-14.6667 = 7.333. The fractional odds would be 2.333/5.333 = 0.318.

That's good enough for me. [:)] Thank you. [&o]

Although you accidently wrote 5.333 instead of 7.333 but for the answer you used the correct answer 0.318.

And, yes, there should be fractional odds.

So much for my proof reading. Well done for spotting the typo. 2.333/7.333 indeed.

ORIGINAL: AllenK

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: AllenK

I think the calculation would be something along the following lines.

1:2 would be 22:44. You have 17:44. That rounds down to 1:3. Since 1:3 is actually 14.667, you have 2.33 towards 1:2 (17-14.667). The gap between 1:3 and 1:2 is 22-14.6667 = 7.333. The fractional odds would be 2.333/5.333 = 0.318.

warspite1

Pure. Frontier. Gibberish

I don't follow you. I was simply trying to determine the odds based upon how the fractional odds rules are written.

warspite1

[:)] Not a fan of Blazing Saddles then Keith? [:)]

I have nothing but admiration for anyone that understands numbers and maths and ****. They scare the living crap out of me.

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: AllenK

ORIGINAL: warspite1


warspite1

Pure. Frontier. Gibberish

I don't follow you. I was simply trying to determine the odds based upon how the fractional odds rules are written.

warspite1

[:)] Not a fan of Blazing Saddles then Keith? [:)]

I have nothing but admiration for anyone that understands numbers and maths and ****. They scare the living crap out of me.

Long time since I last watched it.

Apart from THE scene, the only line I remember is Gene Wilde's "Look at that, steady as a rock....but I shoot with this hand". Close up of wildly trembing hand.

Okay, MWiF didn't allow any fractional roll and simply applied the -1 penalty for 1:3. This gave a net modifier of +1, whereas it should be +2. I've therefore manually input a 2 instead of the 1 Mayhemizer rolled to simulate the effect of the fractional roll. Losses are as below.

Having problems uploading the picture. The result was 2/-. Germany destroys Hamburg Mil and 1st Mot Div, leaving a disorganised X Inf in the hex.

Edit: Picture now loaded.

Italy uses Arm HQ to reorganise the Nav in Spain.

On a 4, turn continues.

For some reason I am not seeing the pictures in people's posts. Anyone have any idea why?

Was there a server under a maintaince or something like that?

ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer

Was there a server under a maintaince or something like that?

warspite1

Yes - I have just been able to post a picture this morning that I could not last night.

There will be no action by Western Allies this evening. The impossibility for US to transport convouys from USA to CW on US resources even though it should be allowed takes to much time trying to fix, or alternatively to get around. [:(]

Frustration city Arizona [:(]

So gents how widespread do we think the fractional odds problem is? Is the game consistently getting the calculation wrong?