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RE: Invasion West Coast!

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 6:51 pm
by RogerJNeilson
ORIGINAL: JocMeister

PS. If someone with programming skills wants to help me out with a small program to format the text let me know! [:)]
Something like that could be done, but it would take an awful lot of time to program and test it takes a lot less time to format it yourself. The problem is that its all markup formatting so you can't simply copy it from another program where you have made it 'pretty'.

Roger

RE: Invasion West Coast!

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:45 pm
by Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: Roger Neilson 3
ORIGINAL: JocMeister

PS. If someone with programming skills wants to help me out with a small program to format the text let me know! [:)]
Something like that could be done, but it would take an awful lot of time to program and test it takes a lot less time to format it yourself. The problem is that its all markup formatting so you can't simply copy it from another program where you have made it 'pretty'.

Roger

Yeah, pretty much this. You say it takes maybe 30 minutes to format one of your posts if they're on the longer side...

I could see it easily taking 12-16 hours just to get a test-able thing done, because you've got to try to account for so much. And then there's going to be what I call "skeleton code" (I'm by no means an actual programmer) that takes care of the bare bones stuff: input/output structure, variables/memory usage, etc.

You might be better served created some macros in MS Office or another high-powered text editor.

RE: Invasion West Coast!

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:56 am
by Rafid
Maybe I'm overly optimistic, but I don't think it's that complicated. I might give it a shot tomorrow (no time today).

Would Python be ok for you guys?

RE: Invasion West Coast!

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:10 am
by mind_messing
ORIGINAL: JocMeister
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

Yeesh.

Have you tried Notepad++? In "programming school", all the early exercises on reading, writing, and formatting text are extreeeeeeeemely tedious. I'll pass [:'(].

To clarify a bit what I would like: I want to just paste the text into a box or whatever and the program then adds the formatting for colors, size, quotes, bold text and whatnot. The program would have to recognize where to put the formatting and stuff and its way beyond what I can do. The actual format are just text within brackets.

This is how my usual formatting of ground combat looks like:
Ground combat at Milne Bay (101,133)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3135 troops, 100 guns, 23 vehicles, Assault Value = 215

Defending force 420 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 16

Allied adjusted assault: 170

Japanese adjusted defense: 3

Allied assault odds: 56 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Milne Bay !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
198 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1


Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
1st Australian Division

Defending units:
2nd Indpt SNLF Coy

Its a PITA to do it manually when there are loads of attacks. Air attacks are usually more numerous and takes even longer if there are several I want to show. That quote above takes about 2 minutes to do. Now imagine if there are 5 attacks...and 10 air combats I want to show. It can take up to about 30 mins to manually edit in all the formatting sometimes. Then add a few screens and some screen editing and just doing the screens and formatting can take up to an hour.



Better yet, something that you can have read your open CR file and choose which combats to format.

RE: Invasion West Coast!

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:16 am
by JocMeister
I would be grateful for anything! [&o]

Even the most simple thing would be extremely helpful. As I said a big post can take 10-20 minutes to format and sometimes even more. Take that times 1000 turns....




RE: Invasion West Coast!

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:24 am
by JocMeister
[font="Verdana"]West Coast[/font]
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Looks like all the transports were sunk or withdrew! Will he try again next turn? I just don´t see how this could work. But perhaps he has used FT mission and grabbed some troops already.

But there is still 200.000 Japanese troops on the West Coast...

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RE: Invasion West Coast!

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:49 pm
by BBfanboy
I think he has written off those troops and just wants to grab cadres of each unit for rebuild.

If that TF in your screenshot really has a CV your subs will be showing high detection levels. Only reason I can think of for him to have a single CV there is ASW and CAP for whatever transports he has left. Would be a great finish to put a few torpedoes into it!

RE: Invasion West Coast!

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:07 pm
by Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: mind_messing


Better yet, something that you can have read your open CR file and choose which combats to format.

Again, I'm wondering about macros in a high-powered text editor... I know you can do really useful macros for just about anything in Excel, so why wouldn't Word be the same? Maybe it's not and I'm totally off base.

RE: Invasion West Coast!

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:08 pm
by Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

I think he has written off those troops and just wants to grab cadres of each unit for rebuild.

If that TF in your screenshot really has a CV your subs will be showing high detection levels. Only reason I can think of for him to have a single CV there is ASW and CAP for whatever transports he has left. Would be a great finish to put a few torpedoes into it!

Since fighters are spotted in the TF, it's definitely a CV. I'd actually wager that it's 2 CVEs from the plane numbers.

RE: Invasion West Coast!

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:33 pm
by RogerJNeilson
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: mind_messing


Better yet, something that you can have read your open CR file and choose which combats to format.

Again, I'm wondering about macros in a high-powered text editor... I know you can do really useful macros for just about anything in Excel, so why wouldn't Word be the same? Maybe it's not and I'm totally off base.

There may well be that facility in Word but what is needed is markup text to drop into a posting here, and Word is not at all good for that. It either needs a text editor that uses markup which could then just be copied and pasted, or it needs a template that the text is dropped into, or it needs a really clever parsing tool that could be written in something like Python - which if I recall is what Witpqs used to do his Intelmonkey in. Way beyond my capacity but my capacity is pretty limited.

I process the combat reports in my own games to a format I want using a programme called CleanText - but that's a Mac piece of software -it turns it into text that can be read into a database, but that's not what is needed for the Forum either, though it could do some of the heavy lifting if a PC version exists. Edit... there is a PC version see here: http://en.freedownloadmanager.org/Windows-PC/Apimac-Clean-Text.html

Roger

RE: Invasion West Coast!

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:28 pm
by JocMeister
Hi guys. Sorry for lack of updates. Work is brutal right now and Idas B-day was yesterday.

Hope to get an update up Saturday morning.

RE: Invasion West Coast!

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:12 pm
by JocMeister
Sorry guys. Stuck in bed with a bad fever. [:(]

RE: Invasion West Coast!

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:19 pm
by Canoerebel
Well, at least you're in bed, where you free to feel miserable without people stepping all over you, talking loudly, and asking you to do things.

Get well soon, Jocke!

RE: Invasion West Coast!

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:36 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Sorry guys. Stuck in bed with a bad fever. [:(]

Stop eating gas station sushi!

RE: Invasion West Coast!

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:07 pm
by JocMeister
Still sick but managed to send Jeff a turn on Saturday. Got the replay today but not the turn.

Nothing exciting has happened pretty much. I´ll try and get an update up when I get the turn file.

RE: Invasion West Coast!

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:47 pm
by JocMeister
Should also add that the pace has not picked up since Jeff finished his other game. I´ll give him a few more days but after that I´ll have to bring it up with him. To be honest I don´t think I would be very upset if the game ended here. Motivation is pretty much zero right now. Might be due to the pace though.


RE: Invasion West Coast!

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:43 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Should also add that the pace has not picked up since Jeff finished his other game. I´ll give him a few more days but after that I´ll have to bring it up with him. To be honest I don´t think I would be very upset if the game ended here. Motivation is pretty much zero right now. Might be due to the pace though.

Do what works best for you at this stage in your life - raising a family puts a lot of demands on you and if you cannot juggle AE into the hours available, put it on ice for a while.
Canoerebel suffered some burnout a while back and took a two-year hiatus. When he came back it was with renewed vigour and great ideas. Don't feel you have let us down if you need to do something similar.

RE: Invasion West Coast!

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:22 pm
by JocMeister
Still no turn....

RE: Invasion West Coast!

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:24 am
by JocMeister
[font="Verdana"]West Coast[/font]
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Not really sure what Jeff is doing here. His fleet have been hovering in the same position for 3-5 turns now. Initially I though he was doing FT missions but now he is too far away. I have been probing his LOC with a DD TF without success.

He has run out of time though. Next turn 3,3k AV moves from March Field to Santa Ana dividing his forces in two. Only 12 units and 40k troops are in the way which is not enough given the terrain and the Allied troops.

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RE: Invasion West Coast!

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:29 am
by JocMeister
[font="Verdana"]SOPAC[/font]
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We are making good progress here. Some engineers will be dropped off at Milne under LRCAP tomorrow. Then there will be a lull in the action for a while as the attention is moved to the Solomons while Milne expands.

BBs will start to soften up Horn Island before the small scale invasion there. Mostly for EXP training.

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